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Pp Francis declares support for BXVIs vision of Church.. rejects 'Spirit of Vat II' (Shortened)
Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 19 November 2013 | William Oddie

Posted on 11/20/2013 5:44:31 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o

An important letter, from Pope Francis to Archbishop Agostino Marchetto, has just been published. It includes the following: “With these lines I wish to be close to you and join myself to the act of presentation of the book 'Pontifical primacy and epicopate: from the first millennium to the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council.' [The book is a collection of essays, some by Archbishop Marchetto, in his honour]. I beg you to consider myself spiritually present [there]…

“You have made your love for the Church manifest in many ways… above all it is manifest in all your purity in the studies made on the Second Vatican Council. I once told you, dear Abp. Marchetto, and I wish to repeat it today, that I consider you to be the best interpreter of the Second Vatican Council.”

With that declaration, with his open support for this book, and with the decision to make the text of his letter public, Pope Francis is making an explicit declaration of his own ecclesial position, which he clearly expects to be noted by all: viz that he supports Benedict XVI’s vision of the Church, and absolutely rejects the so-called “Spirit of Vatican II”. There can now be no question of writing off this Holy Father as a “liberal Pope”: not unless you are one of the weird eccentrics who attempts to do the same for Benedict XVI himself.

The book Pope Francis is so enthusiastically endorsing is described by its publisher, the University of Chicago Press, as an “important study” which “makes a significant contribution to the debate that surrounds the interpretation of the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council. Archbishop Marchetto critiques the Bologna School, which, he suggests, presents the Council as a kind of ‘Copernican revolution’, a transformation to ‘another Catholicism’.

Instead Marchetto invites readers to reconsider the Council directly, through its official documents, commentaries, and histories… [Cardinal Koch writes] that [this] interpretation of the Council” has “taken up and deepened the hermeneutic of reform supported by Benedict XVI.”

There’s a good bit to be said about this “Bologna School”, and it can get fairly complicated. Let’s just say that that’s who Benedict XVI was attacking in his famous address of December 2005: The Bologna School it was which invented and propagated the “hermeneutic of rupture”, in the name of “The Spirit of Vatican II”, which it held should supersede the actual texts of the Council. Archbishop Marchetto is its bête noire [black sheep, opponent].

It’s worthwhile at this point to recall (remembering the Bologna School and its teachings) the text of Benedict’s address. “The question arises”, says Pope Benedict: “Why has the reception of the Council been so difficult for such a great portion of the Church up until now? Well, all depends on the correct interpretation of the Council or – as we would say today – on its correct hermeneutic, on the right key to interpretation and application.

“The problems of reception”, he goes on, “have arisen from a struggle between two conflicting forms of interpretation. One of these has caused confusion; the other, in a silent but increasingly visible way, has brought results, and continues to bring them. On one hand, there is an interpretation that I would like to call ‘hermeneutics of discontinuity and rupture’ (That’s the Bologna School he’s talking about):

It was frequently able to find favour among mass media, and also a certain sector of modern theology….. Hermeneutics of discontinuity risk leading to a fracture between the pre-Council and post-Council Church. It asserts that the Council texts as such would still not be the true expression of the spirit of the Council. They would be the result of compromises within which, to reach unanimity, many old and ultimately useless things had to be dragged along and reconfirmed.

It is, however, not in these compromises that the true spirit of the Council would be revealed, but instead in the drive toward newness that underpin the texts: only this would represent the true spirit of the Council, and starting from it and in conformity with it, it would be necessary to go forward.

Precisely because the texts would reflect only imperfectly the true spirit of the Council and its novelty, it would be necessary to go courageously beyond the texts, making room for the new, in which the more profound, even though still indistinct, intention of the Council would express itself. In short: it would be necessary to follow not the Council texts, but its spirit.

It would be difficult to be more enthusiastic than Pope Francis in his endorsement of Archbishop Marchetto’s scholarly development of Benedict XVI’s teachings, and his rejection of the hermeneutic of discontinuity and the notion that it is “necessary to follow not the Council texts, but its spirit”.

“I am grateful to you”, he concludes, “for all the good that you do for us with your testimony of love for the Church, and I ask the Lord that you be abundantly blessed. I beg you please not to forget to pray for me. May Jesus bless you, and may the Virgin protect you.” The implications of this fervent endorsement, says Father Z , are “HUGE, with a capital H and capital UGE.”

This declaration will not be noticed by the secular media: and who cares? But it will be noticed by Hans Küng and his crew, and by the Tabletistas. The media will still respond positively to Pope Francis’s pastoral instincts and so should we all. We should also note the enthusiasm of many semi-lapsed Catholics: according to the Daily Mail, “After years of decline, cathedrals in Britain have seen a 20 per cent rise in congregations since the Argentinian Pope was elected as head of the Catholic Church eight months ago. And the ‘Pope Francis Effect’ is being felt across the world, with new and lapsed Catholics surging back to the confession box ‘by the hundreds or thousands’, according to the Italian Centre for Studies of New Religions.

In Italy half of priests have noted a marked rise in support for the Church”. And so on. Even the sourest Francis-sceptic can hardly claim that all that is actually a bad thing: the worst they can say is that maybe it won’t last. But maybe some of it will. That growth in recourse to the confessional is particularly interesting: that looks serious, and potentially durable.

I ended my last post by saying that I was confident that “as the pontificate unfolds, [anxieties about Pope Francis] will become progressively calmer and then fade away. I think the Holy Father will pull it off.”

My confidence in that outcome has just been given a major boost, by the Pope’s unambiguous endorsement of Archbishop Marchetto. This pontificate has just passed an important milestone.

TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: benedictxvi; marchetto; popefrancis; vaticanii
I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but apparently Pope Francis has clearly aligned himself with the "Hermeneutic of Continuity" of Pope Benedict XVI, as opposed to the "Hermeneutic of Rupture" of the Bologna school: the liberal "spirit of Vatican II" scrum who have been barreling back and forth over the field for the past 50 years.

Fifty years? Good Lord, I'm getting old.

But if William Oddie is right, look for certain expected results: namely, the Holy Father will harried, buffeted and bitten by the pest-Catholics, past-Catholics and post-Catholics of the Left, who will be yelping with anger.

Watch and see.

Pray for Pope Francis.

1 posted on 11/20/2013 5:44:32 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Pray for Pope Francis.

Prayers up for the Holy Father and our Church.

2 posted on 11/20/2013 6:06:44 PM PST by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

>> I don’t know all the ins and outs of it

As a Protestant, I surely don’t claim to :-) but I see the evidence you posted as a good sign

>> the Holy Father will harried, buffeted and bitten by the pest-Catholics, past-Catholics and post-Catholics of the Left, who will be yelping with anger.

Let’s get back to first principles. Righteousness is defined by GOD — not by man, and certainly not by the catholic left. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Those who hew to His teaching have always been, and will always be, attacked by those “having itching ears [who] accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions”.

I have found essentially everything that Pope Francis has to say profitable to me — a Methodist — in my daily struggle to walk closer to the LORD. I look beyond the sound bites of his detractors and compare his teachings to the Scripture and I don’t find fault in the man. Instead I see the love of Christ and the influence of the Holy Spirit.

Pope Francis is part of the answer to the prayer, “Thy kingdom come; Thy will be done on earth, as it is in Heaven”. Almighty GOD, the Creator of ALL THAT IS, has placed His hand of blessing on Pope Francis.

That’s all I need to know.

Blessings on you, and FRegards.

3 posted on 11/20/2013 6:18:37 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

>> Pray for Pope Francis.

Rest assured that I do.

4 posted on 11/20/2013 6:19:35 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: NYer

Benedict/Francis ping

5 posted on 11/20/2013 8:04:16 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; ...


6 posted on 11/21/2013 3:11:11 AM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks for posting. Maybe this will calm the nerves of those who fear Francis will be a “liberal Pope”.

7 posted on 11/21/2013 5:13:55 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Nervous Tick

Thank you for such gracious words. Let’s pray for each other always.

8 posted on 11/21/2013 6:43:20 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you, but to do justly, love tenderly, and walk humbly with your God.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o


9 posted on 11/21/2013 8:00:54 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I see Pope Francis as being much more of a “pastoral” Pope, not a radical lefty Pope as those who are conservative Catholics feared, but at the same time doing what his famous namesake, St.Francis of Assisi has said, “preach the Gospel and when possible, use words.”

10 posted on 11/21/2013 10:19:43 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

>> Let’s pray for each other always.


11 posted on 11/21/2013 8:46:39 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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