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Posted on 12/07/2013 7:43:01 PM PST by ebb tide
Fox News columnist rips Pope Francis, loses Catholic News Service gig
Adam Shaw, an editor for the Fox News website, has been taking a lot of heat, even from some conservatives, for a rip-roaring assessment of the popes recent apostolic exhortation. His column is titled: Pope Francis is the Catholic Churchs Obama God help us, which gives you a sense of where Shaw was coming from.
But if Shaws Fox job is safe hey, when Rush Limbaugh is blasting the pontiff anyone else looks tame his other gig, as a film and video game reviewer for Catholic News Service, is over as of yesterday.
Tony Spence, editor in chief of the wire service, which operates under the aegis of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said he had been very pleased with Shaws work, which included an analysis of the comics book industry. Spence said he knew that Shaw worked for Fox but it never caused a conflict until this week. Spence wrote in an email:
(W)hen he penned the recent piece on Pope Francis, comparing him to President Obama, and presenting it as an op/ed, he seriously compromised his credibility as an objective Catholic journalist for CNS. Had Adam merely reported on the popes apostolic exhortation, even citing unflattering sources, there would have been no problem. However, Adams caustic condemnation of the exhortation and of Francis himself, one of the key figures we cover daily with objectivity, fairness and certainly charity, left me little choice but to end his service with us.
Spence wished Shaw well at FoxNews.com and in all his future endeavors.
I know this will stir up a nest of bees but I have lost all respect for the Catholic Church over the abortion issue. I cannot take them serious that they are against abortion when Catholic politicians who are pro abortion are still considered Catholics and not publicly denounced by the Catholic Church.
That’s what happens when you dis the boss.
Adam will be thinking “oops” soon, if not already. There comes a time when you give a good and kind old man some room for error, especially when his political experience has been narrow, compared to your own, and dangerous and corrupt.
The Catholic Church has ALWAYS been against abortion. It’s not the Church who can censor pro-aborts — it’s their Bishops. You blame is misplaced.
Instead of blasting the entire Catholic Church — write to each of the bishops where that politician lives.
I know this will stir up a hive of bees but I have lost all respect for the Catholic Church over the abortion issue. I cannot take them serious that they are against abortion when Catholic politicians who are pro abortion are still considered Catholics and not publicly denounced by the Catholic Church, not only that many Catholics vote for pro abortion candidates.
So no one has any control over the Bishops? I am not a Catholic so why would a Catholic Bishop listen to anything I have to say? I bet if the Pope publicly denounced the Catholic politicians that openly support abortion by name people would take note.
I don’t mean to stir up anything either, ...but,...I have to say, the only ones who still pro abort Catholics “Catholic” are the pro aborts themselves and also those who don’t know any better. Just “is”.
A question of what the meaning of “is”, is.
Sadly, most Protestant churches reference abortion little as well.
Don’t forget to write to the Bishop of Rome.
It would be satisfying, even fun, to see a nice, noisy censer come down on the head of these scandalous public and political figures, whose full time hobby horse is to be seen and heard parading as a Catholic, so they can appear to be a reliable authority in bashing and distorting the beliefs of the Church.
These people have long ago excommunicated themselves from the Catholic Church, which means they are no longer in communion with the Church.
ExCatholics are just that, until which time they admit their scandal, their sin against the Church, their grave error, repent and do penance that is as public, to the same degree as their error.
Somehow having doubts about the Pope will compromise his objectivity when it comes to films, comics and video games?
“Journalistic objectivity” is compromised by not being 100% sycophantically supportive of everything the Pope does.
Just because you aren’t Catholic doesn’t mean you can’t write some letters to tickle their consciences. A protestant calling them their apparent hypocrisy on the matter of pro-abort politicians might be the the last straw, as it were. Public excommunication is a legitimate use of their teaching authority to keep others from falling into the sins of abortion.
I would suggest keeping it to abortion where their is a clear church position that they are not upholding and keeping any peculiarities of where you disagree with Church teaching to yourself. If you try to make any doctrinal points that disagree with the Church your point on abortion will be lost.
The Pope doesn't have any problem with them being considered Catholics I bet.
Just be glad it isn’t 1610. [Or earlier.]
They sure seem to be Catholics in good standing, meeting with their Pope, taking Communion at the Vatican, elaborate and very public, church funerals.
Unfortunately since Vatican II the church has become weak and for the sake of “getting along” has lost it’s true identity. We have accepted revisionist history and that is mistake number one. With this a vacuum has been created and bishops and priests have become ignorant or compromised. This is why Catholics aren’t attending mass. The vacuum caused by the weakness has allowed evil to advance and corrupt. For the world to be saved She must be saved and brought back strong.
Personally I’m fighting this battle and I shall NEVER give up on humanity for we have been entrusted to save it.
Is he excommunicated too? Pretty neat how this guy just opens his mouth to give an honest opinion shared by many honest observers and loses his job, but when Catholic Pro-Abortions go to hob-nob with the supreme pontiff, they don’t hear a whimper.
Really? I think you ascribe to yourself more importance than is merited.
Do you send money to pro-aborts.
It is the Catholic Church that must police its own, from the top down! We ask this of Odumbo, and any other head of a company, organization, government, etc. The buck stops at the top!
Imagine that, losing your job for being correct, the author was more right in his comparison to Bambi than he thought..........
These incidences plus others loses the flock - I'm included.
From reading quotes from this Pope, it is becoming obvious that the Pope is to the Catholic Church what Obama is to the United States. Looks like they voted in a “political” Anti-Christ just like we did. What a shame. The church was beginning to look like a good refuge for Episcopal refugees...not now. So still seeking safe haven.
But there are too many Catholics who still believe that all that is wrong with the Church has nothing to do with Vatican II. Or better yet, they think nothing is wrong, continue to defend just about anything coming out of Rome, and think Vatican II was the best thing since sliced bread.
Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.
Does not each pope have a say in who gets to be promoted to bishop during that pope’s time in office? When we look at the bishops, are we not seeing the results of each pope’s selection criteria?
There are many Catholics who agree with you. It’s exasperating and the lack of action only scratches the surface.
"Where the bishop is, there is the church."
A video game reviewer (really some great expertise there), what earth shattering news.
Well, if there is one strategy I have seen deployed more than any other in my years of experience with anti-Catholic apologists it is this: Whenever it can be done, organizations bent on attacking the Church love to put forward Catholicspreferably cradle Catholicsto say I was raised Catholic, and I can tell you for a fact that the Churchs teaching on X is garbage and you can safely ignore it. It is the strategy of everybody from atheists, to Fundamentalists, to the Democratic party whenever they trot out Pelosi and Biden and Sebelius to chatter about the glories of Planned Parenthood. And sure enough, it is the strategy of FOX whoswimming in money and able to pick from a vast pool of real talent ranging from Fr. Robert Sirico on the Right, to Fr. Robert Barron in the center, or John Allen, Jr. on the Left (all of whom have sufficient credentials to offer something like a serious analysis and critique of Francis thought)instead tapped a young video game reviewer named Adam Shaw to pen the hit piece. Why? Because hit pieces need no qualifications beyond I was raised Catholic and I can tell you... The unthinking platitudes, shallow analysis and mendacity can flow, unencumbered by the thought process when your sole goal is to poison the well. Then all you need do is make sure Drudge links it (as he dutifully has) and the conservative Catholics FOX seeks to poison against Francis are sent the clear message that this is not some Outsider attacking the Church, this is a True Catholic defending the Church from our dangerous new pope
If, according, to Mark Shea, Adam Shaw is an anti-Catholic apologist, why was Shaw in the employ of the USCCB? Shea is a very bitter Catholic convert and he often attacks cradle Catholics as beneath him. He has apologized before for his bitter behavior, he should do so again.
And if you have a problem with a video game reviewer, about a blogging priest obsessed with recipes and birdhouses?
You examples are so correct. These things are very, very painful to see, and does great injury to not only devout Catholics, and beyond that it insults all believers whether Catholic or not, making a terrible witness for the Church.
My only consolation is being reminded that Almighty God knows what is going on, even throughout Bible history and has allowed scandal, for a time, or else it would be evaporated and made perfect.
Only the Eucharist keeps Catholics. John 6 is not a suggestion for the Church, but defines her. To receive Jesus while in a sinful state and without repentance is anathema, as to heap hot coals upon our head—so, there is Justice to be served, but it may not be before our very eyes or while in this world.
He’s in trouble because Obama doesn’t like being compared to the Pope and the Pope doesn’t want to be compared to Obama, but they both appear to come from the same cloth.
Here is my contention. If Faux News, the once “conservative” network that openly supports homosexual “marriage” now and the majority of the left-wing garbage that’s supported by the other networks, REALLY wanted a proper appraisal of Pope Francis, why didn’t they choose someone with some expertise in the area. I would suggest Fr. Robert Sirico on the Right, to Fr. Robert Barron in the center, take your pick. Both theologians, with Father Sirico being an economist. The reason Faux News didn’t have someone with real credentials in Catholic teachings is because they figured they would TELL THE TRUTH about what Pope Francis is trying to convey and they (Faux News) wants to blast the Catholic Church, exactly the way the rest of the news media attacks the Catholic Church every time they open their mouths.
So the Pope supports queer “marriage”, and murdering the unborn?
Please re-read Shaw’s article. There’s a lot more opinions in there (with which all them I agree) than Pope Francis’s erroneous views on economics.
Who in the heck knows? The pope’s unofficial motto is, “Who am I to judge”.
If Fox News openly supports homo marriage why did it post Shaw's article? Again, please read Shaw's article.
That’s an unjustified comparison. That’s like saying just because Obama ate dog meat, so has Pope Francis.
Father Robert Sirico, in 10 minutes, sums up Pope Francis’
Exhortation. Not a spiteful or disrespectful word to say about Pope Francis, while at the same time saying that Francis needs to explain some of his thoughts. I agree 100%. This is type of spokesman Faux News needs to interview, not some video game reviewer that immediately starts calling the Pope a marxist.
” Its not the Church who can censor pro-aborts its their Bishops”
Utter crap. These Bishops all answer to the Pope. If he wanted pro,abortion politicians excommunicated he could do it barely lifting a finger.
The problem with your above argument, is that Shaw never called the Pope a Marxist. Are you an understudy of Mark Shea?
My apologies,..I’m incorrect.
The problem with that is that I look at Pope Francis, and then at Barry and I go “ really, Adam?”
No, I was trying to defend you. I agreed with your statement. I was responding to NKP’ response to you.
Sounds like another case of Superslick Christian Liberty Grease letting murder with "contraceptives" slide then playing "holier than thou".
I mean, come on. The Catholic Church doesn't smack down people who accept invasive abortions in addition to the chemical abortions all the non-Catholic churches do accept, and it's the Catholic Church you don't respect? Geez.
I think he meant the pope is a socialist.. and there is no doubt of that
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