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Fox News columnist rips Pope Francis, loses Catholic News Service gig
Religion News Service ^ | December 6, 2013 | David Gibson

Posted on 12/07/2013 7:43:01 PM PST by ebb tide

Fox News columnist rips Pope Francis, loses Catholic News Service gig

Adam Shaw, an editor for the Fox News website, has been taking a lot of heat, even from some conservatives, for a rip-roaring assessment of the pope’s recent apostolic exhortation. His column is titled: “Pope Francis is the Catholic Church’s Obama – God help us,” which gives you a sense of where Shaw was coming from.

But if Shaw’s Fox job is safe — hey, when Rush Limbaugh is blasting the pontiff anyone else looks tame — his other gig, as a film and video game reviewer for Catholic News Service, is over as of yesterday.

Tony Spence, editor in chief of the wire service, which operates under the aegis of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said he had been “very pleased” with Shaw’s work, which included an analysis of the comics book industry. Spence said he knew that Shaw worked for Fox but it never caused a conflict — until this week. Spence wrote in an email:

“(W)hen he penned the recent piece on Pope Francis, comparing him to President Obama, and presenting it as an op/ed, he seriously compromised his credibility as an objective Catholic journalist for CNS. Had Adam merely reported on the pope’s apostolic exhortation, even citing unflattering sources, there would have been no problem. However, Adam’s caustic condemnation of the exhortation and of Francis himself, one of the key figures we cover daily with objectivity, fairness and certainly charity, left me little choice but to end his service with us.”

Spence wished Shaw well “at FoxNews.com and in all his future endeavors.”


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic; cns; fairness; foxnews; objectivity; usccb
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1 posted on 12/07/2013 7:43:01 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I know this will stir up a nest of bees but I have lost all respect for the Catholic Church over the abortion issue. I cannot take them serious that they are against abortion when Catholic politicians who are pro abortion are still considered Catholics and not publicly denounced by the Catholic Church.


2 posted on 12/07/2013 7:48:51 PM PST by Tammy8
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To: ebb tide

That’s what happens when you dis the boss.


3 posted on 12/07/2013 7:52:27 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: ebb tide

Adam will be thinking “oops” soon, if not already. There comes a time when you give a good and kind old man some room for error, especially when his political experience has been narrow, compared to your own, and dangerous and corrupt.


4 posted on 12/07/2013 7:52:37 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Tammy8

The Catholic Church has ALWAYS been against abortion. It’s not the Church who can censor pro-aborts — it’s their Bishops. You blame is misplaced.

Instead of blasting the entire Catholic Church — write to each of the bishops where that politician lives.


5 posted on 12/07/2013 7:54:10 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

I know this will stir up a hive of bees but I have lost all respect for the Catholic Church over the abortion issue. I cannot take them serious that they are against abortion when Catholic politicians who are pro abortion are still considered Catholics and not publicly denounced by the Catholic Church, not only that many Catholics vote for pro abortion candidates.


6 posted on 12/07/2013 7:54:13 PM PST by Tammy8
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To: Salvation

So no one has any control over the Bishops? I am not a Catholic so why would a Catholic Bishop listen to anything I have to say? I bet if the Pope publicly denounced the Catholic politicians that openly support abortion by name people would take note.


7 posted on 12/07/2013 7:57:43 PM PST by Tammy8
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To: Tammy8

I don’t mean to stir up anything either, ...but,...I have to say, the only ones who still pro abort Catholics “Catholic” are the pro aborts themselves and also those who don’t know any better. Just “is”.

A question of what the meaning of “is”, is.


8 posted on 12/07/2013 7:58:45 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Tammy8

Sadly, most Protestant churches reference abortion little as well.


9 posted on 12/07/2013 8:00:34 PM PST by MNDude
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To: Salvation; Tammy8

Don’t forget to write to the Bishop of Rome.


10 posted on 12/07/2013 8:06:01 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Tammy8; Salvation

It would be satisfying, even fun, to see a nice, noisy censer come down on the head of these scandalous public and political figures, whose full time hobby horse is to be seen and heard parading as a Catholic, so they can appear to be a reliable authority in bashing and distorting the beliefs of the Church.

These people have long ago excommunicated themselves from the Catholic Church, which means they are no longer in communion with the Church.
ExCatholics are just that, until which time they admit their scandal, their sin against the Church, their grave error, repent and do penance that is as public, to the same degree as their error.


11 posted on 12/07/2013 8:16:04 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: ebb tide

Somehow having doubts about the Pope will compromise his objectivity when it comes to films, comics and video games?

“Journalistic objectivity” is compromised by not being 100% sycophantically supportive of everything the Pope does.


12 posted on 12/07/2013 8:19:52 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Tammy8

Just because you aren’t Catholic doesn’t mean you can’t write some letters to tickle their consciences. A protestant calling them their apparent hypocrisy on the matter of pro-abort politicians might be the the last straw, as it were. Public excommunication is a legitimate use of their teaching authority to keep others from falling into the sins of abortion.

I would suggest keeping it to abortion where their is a clear church position that they are not upholding and keeping any peculiarities of where you disagree with Church teaching to yourself. If you try to make any doctrinal points that disagree with the Church your point on abortion will be lost.


13 posted on 12/07/2013 8:20:05 PM PST by Flying Circus (God save us!)
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To: Salvation; Tammy8

The Pope doesn't have any problem with them being considered Catholics I bet.

14 posted on 12/07/2013 8:22:27 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ebb tide

Just be glad it isn’t 1610. [Or earlier.]


15 posted on 12/07/2013 8:25:29 PM PST by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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To: RitaOK

They sure seem to be Catholics in good standing, meeting with their Pope, taking Communion at the Vatican, elaborate and very public, church funerals.


16 posted on 12/07/2013 8:33:00 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradley-JFK-- told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ebb tide

Unfortunately since Vatican II the church has become weak and for the sake of “getting along” has lost it’s true identity. We have accepted revisionist history and that is mistake number one. With this a vacuum has been created and bishops and priests have become ignorant or compromised. This is why Catholics aren’t attending mass. The vacuum caused by the weakness has allowed evil to advance and corrupt. For the world to be saved She must be saved and brought back strong.

Personally I’m fighting this battle and I shall NEVER give up on humanity for we have been entrusted to save it.


17 posted on 12/07/2013 8:34:53 PM PST by RareCTCnstve
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To: ebb tide

Is he excommunicated too? Pretty neat how this guy just opens his mouth to give an honest opinion shared by many honest observers and loses his job, but when Catholic Pro-Abortions go to hob-nob with the supreme pontiff, they don’t hear a whimper.


18 posted on 12/07/2013 8:37:27 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Yep.


19 posted on 12/07/2013 8:40:31 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Tammy8
I know this will stir up a nest of bees but I have lost all respect for the Catholic Church

Really? I think you ascribe to yourself more importance than is merited.

20 posted on 12/07/2013 8:46:00 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: ebb tide; All
Here is the controversial article, Pope Francis is the Catholic Church’s Obama – God help us

It's tough, but Shaw makes some good points.
21 posted on 12/07/2013 9:16:57 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Tammy8

Do you send money to pro-aborts.


22 posted on 12/07/2013 9:25:12 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Salvation

It is the Catholic Church that must police its own, from the top down! We ask this of Odumbo, and any other head of a company, organization, government, etc. The buck stops at the top!


23 posted on 12/07/2013 9:53:36 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Girlene
Thank you, amazingly well put by the author, most of the article is spot on.

Imagine that, losing your job for being correct, the author was more right in his comparison to Bambi than he thought..........

24 posted on 12/07/2013 10:03:36 PM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: Tammy8
I know this will stir up a nest of bees but I have lost all respect for the Catholic Church over the abortion issue. I cannot take them serious that they are against abortion when Catholic politicians who are pro abortion are still considered Catholics and not publicly denounced by the Catholic Church

These incidences plus others loses the flock - I'm included.

25 posted on 12/07/2013 10:20:18 PM PST by Digger
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To: ebb tide

From reading quotes from this Pope, it is becoming obvious that the Pope is to the Catholic Church what Obama is to the United States. Looks like they voted in a “political” Anti-Christ just like we did. What a shame. The church was beginning to look like a good refuge for Episcopal refugees...not now. So still seeking safe haven.


26 posted on 12/08/2013 4:45:22 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it stood.)
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To: RareCTCnstve

Bingo.

But there are too many Catholics who still believe that all that is wrong with the Church has nothing to do with Vatican II. Or better yet, they think nothing is wrong, continue to defend just about anything coming out of Rome, and think Vatican II was the best thing since sliced bread.

Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.


27 posted on 12/08/2013 5:05:07 AM PST by piusv
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To: Salvation

Does not each pope have a say in who gets to be promoted to bishop during that pope’s time in office? When we look at the bishops, are we not seeing the results of each pope’s selection criteria?


28 posted on 12/08/2013 5:11:19 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (this space for rent)
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To: Tammy8

There are many Catholics who agree with you. It’s exasperating and the lack of action only scratches the surface.


29 posted on 12/08/2013 5:22:27 AM PST by piusv
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To: Salvation; Tammy8
The Catholic Church has ALWAYS been against abortion. It’s not the Church who can censor pro-aborts — it’s their Bishops. You blame is misplaced.

"Where the bishop is, there is the church."

30 posted on 12/08/2013 8:00:57 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: ebb tide

A video game reviewer (really some great expertise there), what earth shattering news.

“Well, if there is one strategy I have seen deployed more than any other in my years of experience with anti-Catholic apologists it is this: Whenever it can be done, organizations bent on attacking the Church love to put forward Catholics—preferably cradle Catholics—to say “I was raised Catholic, and I can tell you for a fact that the Church’s teaching on X is garbage and you can safely ignore it”. It is the strategy of everybody from atheists, to Fundamentalists, to the Democratic party whenever they trot out Pelosi and Biden and Sebelius to chatter about the glories of Planned Parenthood. And sure enough, it is the strategy of FOX who—swimming in money and able to pick from a vast pool of real talent ranging from Fr. Robert Sirico on the Right, to Fr. Robert Barron in the center, or John Allen, Jr. on the Left (all of whom have sufficient credentials to offer something like a serious analysis and critique of Francis’ thought)—instead tapped a young video game reviewer named Adam Shaw to pen the hit piece. Why? Because hit pieces need no qualifications beyond “I was raised Catholic and I can tell you...” The unthinking platitudes, shallow analysis and mendacity can flow, unencumbered by the thought process when your sole goal is to poison the well. Then all you need do is make sure Drudge links it (as he dutifully has) and the conservative Catholics FOX seeks to poison against Francis are sent the clear message that this is not some Outsider attacking the Church, this is a True Catholic defending the Church from our dangerous new pope”

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/mark-shea/the-thing-that-used-to-be-conservatism-puts-out-a-hit-on-francis/#ixzz2mu9pqBym


31 posted on 12/08/2013 9:23:38 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
I find it comical that you choose Shea as a source :

EWTN/National Catholic Register: Reform or Remove Mark Shea

32 posted on 12/08/2013 9:43:59 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet

If, according, to Mark Shea, Adam Shaw is an anti-Catholic apologist, why was Shaw in the employ of the USCCB? Shea is a very bitter Catholic convert and he often attacks cradle Catholics as beneath him. He has apologized before for his bitter behavior, he should do so again.

And if you have a problem with a video game reviewer, about a blogging priest obsessed with recipes and birdhouses?


33 posted on 12/08/2013 9:54:13 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ansel12

You examples are so correct. These things are very, very painful to see, and does great injury to not only devout Catholics, and beyond that it insults all believers whether Catholic or not, making a terrible witness for the Church.

My only consolation is being reminded that Almighty God knows what is going on, even throughout Bible history and has allowed scandal, for a time, or else it would be evaporated and made perfect.

Only the Eucharist keeps Catholics. John 6 is not a suggestion for the Church, but defines her. To receive Jesus while in a sinful state and without repentance is anathema, as to heap hot coals upon our head—so, there is Justice to be served, but it may not be before our very eyes or while in this world.


34 posted on 12/08/2013 10:01:32 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: ebb tide

He’s in trouble because Obama doesn’t like being compared to the Pope and the Pope doesn’t want to be compared to Obama, but they both appear to come from the same cloth.


35 posted on 12/08/2013 10:01:52 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: ebb tide

Here is my contention. If Faux News, the once “conservative” network that openly supports homosexual “marriage” now and the majority of the left-wing garbage that’s supported by the other networks, REALLY wanted a proper appraisal of Pope Francis, why didn’t they choose someone with some expertise in the area. I would suggest Fr. Robert Sirico on the Right, to Fr. Robert Barron in the center, take your pick. Both theologians, with Father Sirico being an economist. The reason Faux News didn’t have someone with real credentials in Catholic teachings is because they figured they would TELL THE TRUTH about what Pope Francis is trying to convey and they (Faux News) wants to blast the Catholic Church, exactly the way the rest of the news media attacks the Catholic Church every time they open their mouths.


36 posted on 12/08/2013 10:09:51 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Cvengr

So the Pope supports queer “marriage”, and murdering the unborn?


37 posted on 12/08/2013 10:12:57 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Please re-read Shaw’s article. There’s a lot more opinions in there (with which all them I agree) than Pope Francis’s erroneous views on economics.


38 posted on 12/08/2013 10:15:54 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet; Cvengr

Who in the heck knows? The pope’s unofficial motto is, “Who am I to judge”.


39 posted on 12/08/2013 10:17:43 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet
If Faux News, the once “conservative” network that openly supports homosexual “marriage....”

If Fox News openly supports homo marriage why did it post Shaw's article? Again, please read Shaw's article.

40 posted on 12/08/2013 10:27:30 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet; Cvengr

That’s an unjustified comparison. That’s like saying just because Obama ate dog meat, so has Pope Francis.


41 posted on 12/08/2013 10:32:09 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Father Robert Sirico, in 10 minutes, sums up Pope Francis’
Exhortation. Not a spiteful or disrespectful word to say about Pope Francis, while at the same time saying that Francis needs to explain some of his thoughts. I agree 100%. This is type of spokesman Faux News needs to interview, not some video game reviewer that immediately starts calling the Pope a marxist.

http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/2013/11/29/rev-robert-a-sirico-comments-on-economic-views-of-pope-francis-in-evangelii-gaudium/


42 posted on 12/08/2013 10:33:40 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Salvation

” It’s not the Church who can censor pro-aborts — it’s their Bishops”

Utter crap. These Bishops all answer to the Pope. If he wanted pro,abortion politicians excommunicated he could do it barely lifting a finger.


43 posted on 12/08/2013 10:36:03 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: NKP_Vet

The problem with your above argument, is that Shaw never called the Pope a Marxist. Are you an understudy of Mark Shea?


44 posted on 12/08/2013 10:39:46 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

You’re correct.

My apologies,..I’m incorrect.


45 posted on 12/08/2013 10:42:59 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: ebb tide

The problem with that is that I look at Pope Francis, and then at Barry…and I go “…really, Adam?”


46 posted on 12/08/2013 10:46:05 AM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team.)
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To: Cvengr

No, I was trying to defend you. I agreed with your statement. I was responding to NKP’ response to you.


47 posted on 12/08/2013 10:53:19 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: Tammy8

Yep


48 posted on 12/08/2013 10:56:20 AM PST by wardaddy (choctaw bingo)
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To: Tammy8
Since a bare minimum of twice as many infants are murdered in the womb each year with abortifacient "contraceptives" as are murdered by abortions done by invasive means and all the "churches" that grew out of the revolt against The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church Jesus Christ Himself founded reversed themselves and now approve of abortion with "contraceptives", you can't possibly respect any of them since they approve of chemically induced abortions.

Sounds like another case of Superslick Christian Liberty Grease letting murder with "contraceptives" slide then playing "holier than thou".

I mean, come on. The Catholic Church doesn't smack down people who accept invasive abortions in addition to the chemical abortions all the non-Catholic churches do accept, and it's the Catholic Church you don't respect? Geez.

49 posted on 12/08/2013 11:39:07 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory)
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To: ebb tide

I think he meant the pope is a socialist.. and there is no doubt of that


50 posted on 12/08/2013 11:49:40 AM PST by RnMomof7
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