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Race and the Priesthood [Lds Church attempts to explain its past racist prophets and policies]
Lds Church ^ | Dec. 9, 2013

Posted on 12/10/2013 5:21:52 AM PST by Colofornian

...Latter-day Saint scripture and teachings affirm that God loves all of His children and makes salvation available to all. God created the many diverse races and ethnicities and esteems them all equally...

...for much of its history—from the mid-1800s until 1978—the Church did not ordain men of black African descent to its priesthood or allow black men or women to participate in temple endowment or sealing ordinances.

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In 1852, President Brigham Young publicly announced that men of black African descent could no longer be ordained to the priesthood, though thereafter blacks continued to join the Church through baptism and receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost. Following the death of Brigham Young, subsequent Church presidents restricted blacks from receiving the temple endowment or being married in the temple. Over time, Church leaders and members advanced many theories to explain the priesthood and temple restrictions...

The curse of Cain was often put forward as justification for the priesthood and temple restrictions. Around the turn of the century, another explanation gained currency: blacks were said to have been less than fully valiant in the premortal battle against Lucifer and, as a consequence, were restricted from priesthood and temple blessings.13

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13. Apostle Joseph Fielding Smith, for example, wrote in 1907 that the belief was “quite general” among Mormons that “the Negro race has been cursed for taking a neutral position in that great contest.” Yet this belief, he admitted, “is not the official position of the Church, [and is] merely the opinion of men.” Joseph Fielding Smith to Alfred M. Nelson, Jan. 31, 1907, Church History Library, Salt Lake City.

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TOPICS: History; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: antichristian; blacks; inman; lds; ldschurch; mormonism; racism
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To: SZonian; ansel12
your own “prophets” and “apostles” issued the challenges

Who are my "prophets" and "apostles"?

What is "my list"?

41 posted on 12/10/2013 1:43:50 PM PST by laotzu
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To: ansel12
No defense of Islam.

What is "my list"?

42 posted on 12/10/2013 1:47:04 PM PST by laotzu
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To: laotzu

You defend them, the doctrine and the teachings while attempting to “mock” others who accepted the mormon’s challenges. In my book, that makes you one of them, that’s all.

Now I think it’s time for some more giraffe pictures, don’t you?

Afterall, it appears that’s about all you are capable of posting in response and it repeatedly demonstrates an innate inability to post cogent responses.


43 posted on 12/10/2013 1:48:39 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian

Who are my “prophets” and “apostles”? Or, do you have an innate inability to answer cogent questions.


44 posted on 12/10/2013 1:59:23 PM PST by laotzu
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To: laotzu

Why am I not surprised by your response...

But I am disappointed...no giraffe picture.

I was so looking forward to an inane reply.


45 posted on 12/10/2013 2:07:18 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: laotzu

Well, your list of religions that you want to defend which you made sound all inclusive, doesn’t seem to include the world’s second largest religion.

It seems that freepers at FR can criticize Islam without upsetting you.


46 posted on 12/10/2013 2:08:48 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradley-(JFK) told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Utah Binger; laotzu; All
I think he also gave it in a mission conference in Copenhagen at about that same time. They brought the entire mission into Copenhagen for a 7:00 am meeting and sent us all out to a neighborhood out on Amager to gang up on an entire section of town and challenge every person we saw to be baptized that same day. Binger's comment on the Lds racist "apostle" who -- had there been a few deaths in '68-'early 70...could have become THE Mormon "prophet":

That guy was one hard ass. At the end of the day they made every one of us stand up and say why we did or didn’t succeed. I have never forgotten how he would challenge each missionary in an almost violent way. One guy broke down and Dyer called him a cry baby or something like that. A 19 year old kid. Four of us rebellious guys traded off our companions that night and went downtown Copenhagen to the Giraffe Bar. Those were the days!

Very interesting!

(Thanks for sharing, Binger!)

Four of us rebellious guys traded off our companions that night and went downtown Copenhagen to the GIRAFFE Bar.

Oh. So that explains Laotzu's constant giraffe images on Mormon threads.

Mormon missionaries -- and other Mormons on the sly -- will slip away now & then to a Giraffe Bar! (It's an encoded sub-cultural thing, eh, Laotzu?)

47 posted on 12/10/2013 2:12:33 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: SZonian

Who are my “prophets” and “apostles”?


48 posted on 12/10/2013 2:14:34 PM PST by laotzu
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To: ansel12
It seems that freepers at FR can criticize Islam without upsetting you.

They certainly can. Would it upset you?

49 posted on 12/10/2013 2:16:20 PM PST by laotzu
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To: Colofornian

No. It's a magic underwear thing.

50 posted on 12/10/2013 2:19:42 PM PST by laotzu
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To: Colofornian; laotzu

Noticed the giraffe thing afterword. LOL


51 posted on 12/10/2013 2:19:42 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: laotzu; Utah Binger; All
No. It's a magic underwear thing.

Oh, it's gotta be both.

Binger will probably tell ya he had on his underwear while @ the Giraffe Bar in Denmark!

52 posted on 12/10/2013 2:21:04 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: laotzu; ansel12; All
They certainly can. Would it upset you?

Like I said: "Some religions" (like Mormonism)
"are more equal than others" (like Islam)

(Just ask the selective wrong god advocate, Laotzu)

Also applies to: "Some gods" (like the Mormon ones)
"are more equal than others" (like the Islam one)

53 posted on 12/10/2013 2:23:10 PM PST by Colofornian
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Google "Race and the Priesthood" (with quotations) -- the title of the Mormon statement...

And this thread makes it into the Top 10 hits right now...

Free Republic: Race and the Priesthood

Gettin' some national/international exposure.

54 posted on 12/10/2013 2:28:50 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Oh, it's gotta be both. Binger will probably tell ya...

That would be pretty funny.

55 posted on 12/10/2013 2:29:02 PM PST by laotzu
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To: Colofornian
Like I said: "Some religions" "are more equal than others"

Well, O.K. then. Are you certain you understood what Orwell was saying when he wrote that?

56 posted on 12/10/2013 2:31:42 PM PST by laotzu
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57 posted on 12/10/2013 2:34:23 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: laotzu

58 posted on 12/10/2013 2:38:32 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Utah Binger

That is funny. How does it taste?


59 posted on 12/10/2013 2:39:15 PM PST by laotzu
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To: SZonian

Thanks for the help.

60 posted on 12/10/2013 2:43:50 PM PST by laotzu
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