Skip to comments.Vladimir Putin claims Russia is moral compass of the world
Posted on 12/12/2013 10:08:57 AM PST by AnalogReigns
Vladimir Putin sought to cast Russia as the moral arbiter of the world on Thursday, as he hit out at Americas non-traditional values and its influence across the world. In an annual state of the nation address, the 61-year-old Russian president said his country did not aspire to be some kind of superpower. We do not infringe on anyones interests, we do not force our patronage on anyone, or try to teach anyone how to live, he said. His comments amounted to an oblique rebuttal to the growing international movement against Russias restrictive laws on homosexuality. ... Mr Putin defended his governments increasingly conservative values and decried the review of norms of morality in the West and elsewhere.
This destruction of traditional values from above not only entails negative consequences for society, but is also inherently anti-democratic because it is based on an abstract notion and runs counter to the will of the majority of people, Mr Putin said, adding there could be no benefit for society for treating good and evil equally. In his 70-minute televised speech from an ornate Kremlin hall, Mr Putin said traditional family values where a bulwark against so-called tolerance genderless and infertile. Critics of the speech were quick to point that post-Soviet Russia has seen a deep and damaging decline in its birth rates to among the lowest of any developed nation....
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He’s a Christian? Lololol
Just like Iran has no queers.
Yes he does and I am glad he is speaking about it, no one in the GOP would.
What a strange world we live in.
He's simply looking-out for his "friends."
I would have to disagree with Mr. Putin.
In the East there is someone that causes the western liberal's maniacal laughter to stop. Vladimir Putin. He has real world power, which causes the liberal media to fearfully ignore or warp his image. Like a good Christian King he leads a nation to Christ. Deep down in their evil souls they shriek like devils because they know Christ is true God and true power that they cannot defeat. They thought the Bolshevik revolution destroyed Holy Mother Russia. Christ cannot be defeated and his servant Putin has welcomed Christ and His church.
-- from the thread US threatened by Russia's Christianity
The anti-Christian Obama has allied himself with Al-Qaeda rebels in Syria where 2 Bishops are still held captive, priests and other Christians are martyred. This is the "Hope and Change" he promised. Those who voted for Obama are held responsible as though they pulled the trigger or swung the blade to decapitate. It will go worse for those who are Christian leaders who ignore the martyrs of the East. Why are they not at the White House everyday protesting to spare the Christians and stop the violence?
-- from the thread American Judas
How's this for a fish story: In the latest episode of Vladimir Putin's ongoing rugged outdoorsman fantasy adventure series, the Russian president, clad in a camouflage jacket and hat, appears to catch a massive pike...Russia's defense minister, who was on the trip, says the fish weighed between 26.4 and 33 pounds, but a Putin spokesman pegs the weight at 46.3 pounds. Russian bloggers are for some reason a tad skeptical. Several have posted images of bigger fish they've caught themselves that have weighed far less. "They must have forgotten to unfreeze the pike," one social network post quipped. Another wrote, "The Kremlin must have weighed the pike the way they count the votes." Come on guys. It's not like Putin would fake a spectacular exploit.American Judas
-- from the online article Putin Catches '46-Pound Fish'
“Vladimir Putin sought to cast Russia as the moral arbiter of the world”
....damn site more than Obama and the USA!
Sadly, there is an element of truth to the point. Who is standing for the Christians of Syria, and who is helping the attackers?
This is considered hate speech coming from a politician here.
Interesting. I wonder what Putin’s reasoning was when he funneled Russian arms to the Syrians, and the Syrians in turn were funneling them into Iraq.
Obama and regime Democrats say they support Christianity and American moral values, but they only do things that undermine and destroy those values and promote and finance the strengthening of Socialism, Islam and authoritarian appointed government, while showing no respect for Rule of Law, undermining the American economy and fomenting violent insurrection in numerous foreign nations while supporting known terrorists. Here, we don't have to wait to be sure that a sincere law abiding Christian benevolent President accomplishes justice in America, Obama assures us he will.
Actually that close relationship goes back to the Tsars who imported Caesaropapism from the Byzantines.
I’ll admit, my knowledge of Russian history only extends into the Tsarist era.
I’m not splitting hairs, or trying to pick a fight with you, but that’s not very “Christian” of our dear comrade Vladi.
As a politician this guy is slick.
Russia is a far more moral country than many other places except in one regard. Abortion. Russia has one of the highest abortion rates anywhere and they’re suffering for it. I’m glad to see many lawmakers and religious leaders in Russia have said its time to start cracking down on the abortion industry for the good of the country.
Whites are not allowed a strong white male icon..its part of the accentuated diversity plan.
Boehner ...boner.....thats an approved white icon.
Russia has claimed to be the moral compass of the world calling itself the Third Rome; home of the leadership of the Christian world. First of course Rome itself, then Constantinople when the Eastern and Western Churches split, finally Moscow when Constantinople fell in 1453.
Valid point, fits the Negro agenda, the homosexual agenda, the Femanazi agenda, the intellectual educational agenda, the socialist agenda, the third world agenda, yeah, I can see why the world hates Putin, why, if he wasn't a Communist, think of the trouble he could cause.
More Christian than the SCOTUS and the ACLU.
Nazi felt superior as a traditional ueber race, Leninists because they fantasized about being a progressed advance race, but we Americans because we are gay...
Putin is ridiculing the West.
“Moral compass of the world” might be, ahem, a bit grandiose on Putin’s part, but America certainly seems to be in a mad dash to be the moral cesspit of the world.
The way America is diving headlong into depravity and evil, it does make for a startling reversal of the old dichotomy of the cold war days. Putin at least seems quite cognizant of taking his country in the direction of long-term survival, while America sinks down the rat-hole of perversion and dysfunction. Never would have predicted it a few short years ago, but it does now look likely that Russia will outlast America.
I don,t know if they are or not but at least they don,t have a president that supports same sex marriage.
The world is truly up side down.
U.S. going the way of Gomorrah. Sad.
Obama and his policies are making it very easy for Putin to claim this.
It’s primarily “upside down” because of the downside this country has elected.
“Just like Iran has no queers.”
KGB Putin's revanchist Neo-Soviet Russia invaded the nation of Georgia and ethnically cleansed thousands of innocent Christian civilians. Putin is a genocidal mass-murderer of women and children. Putin does not think the extermination of Georgians is infringing on "anyone" because he does not consider Georgians to be human beings.
Putin has no morality and he serves his master Satan the Devil.
Upside down and inside out.
Why doesn’t he admit that much of the subversion of the west into a sewer is Russia’s fault???
Best comment yet, but Russia has more crimes in its past.
According to this Russias abortion rate has declined steeply from the unreal numbers in the early 90s. But I still think it is high as compared to the US. There where around 42 abortions per 100 live births in 2012 Russia, in 2003 USA there were 24 from what I have found, which supports your idea. It could be that they are just using better birth control now, I suppose. Does anyone know if there is an official Russian Orthodox position on birth control within marriage? I have heard different things from posters on here before.
So, in 2012 there were about 42 abortions per 100 live births, not 130. The last time the number of abortions exceeded the number of births by 30% or more was in 2002. Additionally, rather than representing the most grisly statistic the world has ever seen, an abortion rate 30% larger than the birth rate was actually a huge improvement from rates that prevailed in the early 1990s
According to this, there was a peak of something like 280 abortions per 100 live births in the early 90s.
It’s a little less centralized than the Vatican, so I’m not pulling anything up on just a quick search. There are pages on just general Orthodox tenets, Greek in particular, which condemn abortion as a grave sin.
Here is a good link though. I doubt this man would say such things without the consent of the church at large.
I am glad that there are representatives of different generations, social strata and spiritually ready to stand up for Holy Russia. Orthodoxy - not only prayer but also a civil action, as mentioned by Patriarch Kirill - we need to pray, think and act, to live in [a] Russia where abortion is morally unacceptable, Fr. Chaplin said.
Like you say, Russia still has a real problem with abortion, but it is trying to improve. They need to, or they are in real demographic trouble. If memory serves, the woman who introduced the homosexual propaganda law is now trying to introduce legislation similar to Texas’, where they put medical restrictions on clinics
Right, to my understanding the Russian Orthodox Church has always officially been against abortion. But I have heard different things regarding birth control within marriage. One of the things I have heard is that BC within marriage is OK as long as a spiritual advisor (presumably a priest) approves. I don’t know if such approval is almost always given, almost never given, somewhere in between, if the Russian Orthodox don’t bother with asking, or if it isn’t true in the first place.
In other words, is the drastic decrease in abortion due to folks deciding to have babies or access to better western birth control practices after the iron curtain fell? One is more healthy than the other, in my opinion.
I think a lot of clinics have been shut down. Gosnell-type places. You have to remember Russia is sort of a wild-west in about 80% of its landmass. What are the chances an abortion clinic is going to be sanitary way out in Artyomovsk? The Russians may have been gradually centralizing abortion practices to relatively large towns and cities, making them harder for rural folk to seek out. Also, I bet it does have something to do with the rising affiliation with Russian Orthodoxy. Atheism has all but collapsed in Russia (down to 13% from something like 60% after the Soviet Union collapsed. Nowhere have atheists taken a bigger hit in their numbers.
Now, many of those are non-observant, but observant membership has also been rising within Orthodoxy itself. Church has become somewhat fashionable in a country that has experienced serfdom, hedonism, communism and everything in between.
Birth control likely plays a large role too, but I’d say that more people deciding to have children is a factor more-so than in the last five years.. Russia is reversing its demographic trend slowly but surely. It’s becoming a more opportunity-rich country, and the media there promote families (no doubt under nudging from the Kremlin, who want more babies).
I hope you are right. The most unusual cultural aspect about the whole thing is that here you have a culture that seems to accept abortion, albeit with drastically lowering abortion rates, but also seems to be rejecting the homosexualist agenda. This is something that I can’t think has ever happened before, at least in the West.
Time will tell. Russian opinion of homosexuality has changed in just a decade. Give it another ten years for their views to shift on abortion.
“Russian opinion of homosexuality has changed in just a decade.”
Could you elaborate? How/what did it change from?
The number of Russians who support various laws preventing homosexual activity
http://rbth.ru/news/2013/06/11/most_russians_want_gay_propaganda_to_be_banned_-_poll_26970.htmlties has increased since the 90s.
“A relative majority of respondents (42 percent) said homosexual relations must carry criminal liability, compared to 19 percent in 2007. Twenty-five percent said homosexuality must be publicly scorned (compared to 18 percent in 2007), 15 percent proposed imposing fines on homosexuals (compared to 12 percent in 2007) and 15 percent said it is an individual’s private affair (compared to 34 percent in 2007),” VTSIOM said in a press release, received by Interfax on Tuesday.
Thanks. Wow, that seems to be a really good sign.