Skip to comments.Pope says he is not a "Marxist" and it is not time to start "clericalizing" women
Posted on 12/15/2013 9:14:52 AM PST by NYer
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That doesn’t do a lot to refute what Rush said, now does it .
My little cousin describes herself as a Marxist. She is young, socially awkward, book-smart but very sheltered, naive and very little experience of the real world. Naturally, her political Outlook irritated me, but she is family and I love her. I put her down as ignorant rather than malevolent.
Which does not excuse, nor explain, how one could be so misguided as to talk about capitalism as if laissez faire exists anywhere in the world which is exactly what happened in context.
And FTR, distributism is a phony theoretical but euphimisitc way of saying command and control ..and I do reject it out of hand.
Wth due respect, the Pope is not talking about 8 year old kids .and you know it.
context matters .
Oh, and she is Catholic. Funny enough, all that do-gooding and elevating the poor as morally superior to the rich does seem to predispose a lot of Catholics I know to believe in leftist bollocks for some reason...
She is 18 and has been like this since she was about 14.
Agreed. In my experience, the giveaway that someone is a Marxist (or Marxian, if you prefer) is that they refer to the status quo system (subsidies, bailouts, anti-competitive regs, licensing requirements, etc.) as laissez faire capitalism, sometimes using the terms “neo-liberalism” or “cultural capitalism”.
In some parts of the country a third still vote for the successor party, and at times the post-communist party has been in the governing coalition.
So I guess what the pope is trying to say is that somebody who just happened to vote for the party isn't necessarily totally evil.
I don't know how seriously to take Francis's comment. It may just be a "some of my best friends are _____" reflex that he's using to temper and take the edge off his remarks.
This one fact should not escape anyone. The leftist media spends most of its time trying to find holes in which to dig and implant doubt into the minds of the faithful and unfaithful alike.
...and their inspiration for this work comes from below.
Well, let’s just say his reflex statement to take the edge off .did not work. Nice try though.
Doesn’t change the validity of my point he wasn’t talking about 18 year olds or 14 year olds either he was talking about adults, and adults who are Marxists are simply NOT nice people under any reasonable definition.
Pleasant? Maybe. Nice? NO NO NO and NO.
Not everybody who talks that way is a Marxist by any means.
First of all, there's a tradition in Christianity of backing away from the idea of extreme laissez-faire or materialism, even when laissez-faire doesn't really exist. It's left over from the past. Any institution that's been around long enough has a lot of baggage, a lot of slogans and pronouncements left over from earlier conflicts. It's also way of shoring up one side of your political foundation and getting on to other matters.
If "laissez-faire" is a bogeyman that people just attack as an unthinking reflex or a zombie idea that no longer corresponds to much in reality, "Marxism" is similar in the way it gets thrown around and applied to people and situations where it doesn't really fit. So you guys may not be as different as you think..
Secondly, some people who come from poor countries or went through the Depression or entered religious vocations do want to maintain some distance from complete celebration of free markets. In itself that doesn't make them Marxists or Communists or socialists. They may be willing to give a cheer or two for capitalism, but don't want to give all three cheers.
Perhaps one influence is the religious impulse to give full assent only to God. We understood all that back in the Cold War, when it was necessary to get people of very different views together in the same boat to oppose actual Communists or Marxists. It would be a pity if we lost that understanding now.
A “Marxist” is a person who has studied Marx and his followers, including modern academic Marxists, and follows their teachings with full awareness of doing it. On the Internet, a fountain of worldly wisdom, “Marxist” is everyone who doesn’t agree with you, something like an “idiot”. In other words, “Marxism” is used as an ignorant insult by, uh, idiots.
Obama may be for all we know an unconscious Marxist, clueless dilettante Marxist, who we know admitted to associating with Marxists at the university.
Everyone has his own idea of good and evil and must choose to follow the good and fight the evil as he conceives them. That would be enough to make the world a better place.
Trust me, I am in no way defending it.
“WHO is a good Marxist”.
Ask all the democrats and republicans kissing the rear end of Nelson Mandela. He was worst than a Marxist, but the world kissed his ass when he died. Including the Pope, which I disagreed with.
Because leftists are obsessed with lesbians and men sodomites.
“socialist, Marxist or some other economical-whacko group”
Socialists and Marxist are athiests. So are you calling the Pope an athiest?
So are you saying he is lying? Better watch out, Santa is coming!
No, I think he is clueless as to what Marxism is, in practice, and what free enterprise is, in practice. But I’m glad you came along, so would you please tell me who and what a “nice marxist” is??????
I can’t wait for your answer .