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72 Hours to Chaos
Good News Magazine ^ | 2012 | Gary Petty

Posted on 12/21/2013 10:34:28 AM PST by DouglasKC

What do times of disaster teach us about ourselves and society? Is our moral center what it ought to be?

In 2005 I worked as a volunteer at a shelter for people displaced by Hurricane Katrina. We tried to console confused, hungry, frightened people who had been picked off the roofs of their houses in New Orleans and transported to San Antonio, Texas.

One young woman sat on a cot staring aimlessly. In obvious shock, she ignored the activity swirling around her. I stopped, leaned down and asked her if I could help. She looked up with eyes filled with despair and asked, "What happened to my baby?"

I never knew what happened to that woman or if they ever found her baby. Since that time I have often thought about how human life can be degraded by the destructive force of natural disasters. Even more disturbing is the reality of how easy it is for human beings to devalue each other.

It's vital that we maintain the right perspective.

Civilization's thin veneer revealed in disasters

Working in a shelter for victims of Hurricane Katrina was a study in how the veneer of civilization hides the possibility of chaos. There were many encouraging examples by scores of volunteers who simply showed up and worked, at times without supervision, to unload trucks of food and water, set up cots and assist the tired and hungry refugees.

(Excerpt) Read more at ucg.org ...


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: chaos; christ; disaster
There's a thin veneer between civilization and chaos...
1 posted on 12/21/2013 10:34:28 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

The chaos is here. The wildings, the knockout games, the violence at K-Mart sales ... the chaos is here and it’s just a matter of time before the Levee breaks.


2 posted on 12/21/2013 10:46:12 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

Difficult for me to think about helping 0-bots who put us in this mess.


3 posted on 12/21/2013 10:50:47 AM PST by bicyclerepair (TERM LIMITS TERM LIMITS TERM LIMITS)
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To: bicyclerepair

many were never taught what the right things to do are. they’ve never known any different. imagine what accounting their parents and teachers will have coming.


4 posted on 12/21/2013 11:00:09 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

And there are common threads holding the chaos together. They are race (which is to say culture), number of parents in the home, and party affiliation.

The contrasting department stores were most likely separated by more than just 72 hours. Either could be turned into chaos in much shorter time. It’s only a 30 minute bus ride from the South Side to The Miracle Mile. The difference in the two is culture.


5 posted on 12/21/2013 11:01:02 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Ditto — also liking your sig line!!


6 posted on 12/21/2013 11:20:14 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45

to be clear i am not absolving the ones who don’t know better, because everyone has a conscience and knows how they would like to be treated, just pointing out others share their blame.


7 posted on 12/21/2013 11:28:10 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Kartographer

Ping to “thin veneer between civilization and chaos”...


8 posted on 12/21/2013 11:30:12 AM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: DouglasKC

“Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people – as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts... deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers... put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time... and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces, look at their eyes...”

- Quark, Star Trek Deep Space 9, The Siege of AR-558


9 posted on 12/21/2013 11:32:33 AM PST by tanknetter (L)
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To: tanknetter

People are human, if you think about it. If not, then not.


10 posted on 12/21/2013 11:42:23 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: demshateGod

This article was an interesting comment on the difference between the pink tribe and grey tribe. R rated language, but a good read.

http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000129.html


11 posted on 12/21/2013 12:02:52 PM PST by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: DouglasKC; All

Again, more blog pimping for the UCG cult? A disclaimer is in order:

Founder: It was founded “by Bob Dick and David Hulme, in Arcadia, CA;”1 offshoot of Herbert W. Armstrong and was formed in May of 1995.

Headquarters: Milford, Ohio

Membership: unknown

Origins: The United Church of God is an offshoot of the Worldwide Church of God. They claim to trace their origins back to the “Church that Jesus founded in the early first century.”2 How this is done is not explained.

Practices: Worship on Saturday

Analysis: The United Church of God is a non-Christian cult that denies the Trinity, the true divinity of Christ, and requires both baptism and obedience to the commandments to be saved. It teaches that there is a “God family” of which we can become members through keeping the Law. Jesus is one of two divine beings, the Father being the other. The Holy Spirit is a force, a power, and is not the 3rd person of the Trinity, and it is received only through the laying on of hands by their church members. It also teaches that their members are obligated to keep the Sabbath and must observe seven festivals. They cannot eat unclean meat. This is a false religious system that teaches a false God, false Christ, and false gospel. Stay away from it.

Other Teachings:

They teach that the wicked, or unsaved, are not alive in hell but are annihilated. Baptism is by immersion. The Bible is inspired and inerrant. They are pre-millennial and maintain that Satan is a fallen, evil angel. Christians are not to go to war and should refuse being drafted.

Quotes

God: God consists of two different beings, Father and Son, in a ‘family.’

“...the one God is a family, presently consisting of God the Father and God the Son, Jesus Christ. And God is in the process of adding to the divine family multitudes of others - eventually all human beings who are willing and who faithfully choose to follow God’s way...the Father and Jesus Christ are both God...The real message in these pronouncements is that there is no other God apart from the true God’that is, outside the God family now consisting of two divine Beings, the Father and the Son. In short, the God family alone is God...the true God means the one God family to which others will yet be added.”3

Holy Spirit: The UCOG denies the personhood of the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is God’s divine power. “...the Holy Spirit is the very nature, presence and expression of God’s power actively working in His servants...the very essence and life force through which the Father begets human beings as His spiritual children...The Holy Spirit is spoken of in many ways that demonstrate that it is not a divine person.”4
The Holy Spirit is received by the laying on of hands, after being water baptized by immersion.5

Jesus:

“Jesus is one of two divine beings”6

Jesus is sinless, the creator of all humanity, who was raised from the dead, (physical resurrection is not explained).

Jesus will return

Law:

“The Ten Commandments are the 10 points of God’s law of love. We believe that breaking any one point of the law brings upon a person the penalty of sin. We believe that this fundamental spiritual law reveals the only way to true life and the only possible way of happiness, peace and joy.”7

Man:

Man is fallen but can become “partakers of the divine nature.” This means that they can be added to the God Family.

After death, you cease to exist but are resurrected for judgment:

“The soul ( nephesh ) is not immortal, because it dies...what happens to the spiritual essence that separates man from animal? Does it continue as a conscious, immortal soul independent of the physical body? Certainly not!”8
“We believe that at the return of Jesus Christ a resurrection to spirit life will take place for all who have been God’s faithful servants.”9

Sabbath: Saturday, the seventh day of the week, is the proper day to worship God.

Salvation - Salvation is through Jesus only, but you must be baptized to be saved. Salvation can be lost.
You must acknowledge your sin, that your sin condemns you, and that you need forgiveness in Jesus. The person must repent and be baptized. You “...must forsake the sinful ways that brought the death penalty upon us and made Jesus’ sacrifice necessary in the first place. We must undergo a life-transforming change of heart and direction, a process the Bible calls repentance....When you are baptized, God forgives your past sins and clears your record...After our baptism, Christ’s ministers are to place their hands on us and pray for the gift of God’s Spirit for us. It is at this point that God gives His Spirit to a repentant, baptized person.”10
“After baptism and our receiving of God’s Spirit, we are justified. That is, we become righteous in God’s sight”11
“If we stumble and sin after baptism, we must ask God’s forgiveness and return to Him so that our state of forgiveness is not lost by our return to our old sinful way of life...If a Christian at some time during his life, after committing to serve God, turns away and renounces Jesus and God’s way in word or action, he will lose his salvation.”12

The saved don’t go to heaven but will live on earth with Jesus.

“God will offer salvation all who have lived, including those of non-Christian religions, in a time described in Revelation 22: 5, 11-13 . This is a period known as the Great White Throne Judgment when God will offer salvation, through Christ, to those denied such opportunity in their life.”13
“We believe God’s purpose for mankind is to prepare those whom He calls, and who elect through a life of overcoming sin, developing righteous character and growing in grace and knowledge, to possess God’s Kingdom and become kings and priests reigning with Christ at His return.”14
“Such individuals are justified, pardoned from the penalty of sin and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, which literally abides within them and supplies the divine love that alone can fulfill the law and produce righteousness.”15

Footnotes at link:

http://carm.org/ucog


12 posted on 12/21/2013 12:23:45 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Seriously? You're using the website CARM, which IS a cult run by one guy in it for the money to "prove" that UCG is a cult?

CARM (from wikipedia):

1. CARM is 1 (one) guy: "The Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (CARM) is a Protestant apologetics ministry in the United States founded in 1995.[1] The president of the ministry is Matthew J. Slick, and there are as many as 30 contributors to the website.[2] The ministry is registered as a 501 (c)3 organization,[3] and it is located in Meridian, Idaho.[4]"

One guy with 30 "followers" in it to make money for himself.

2. CARM (Matthew J. Slick) is inaccurate and selective: " "Like the Countercult in print, the Countercult on the Net is a carefully managed presentation of selected truths, half-truths, spun truths, and untruths." (CARM

3. CARM (Matthew J. Slick) hates everyone: "In his book Bearing false witness? An introduction to the Christian countercult, Cowan says that "Slick's choice of cultic and sectarian movements is interesting", commenting that it is rare to see Christadelphianism described as a major cult, or to see such different movements as Eckankar and Christian Identity listed adjacent to each other."(CARM)

4. CARM (Matthew J. Slick) hates Catholic too: "In her book Voices of Diversity: Multi-Culturalism in America, Mary C. Sengstock, a sociologist from Wayne State University, describes the CARM website as one of those continuing a tradition of religious prejudice, because it puts forward the view that Roman Catholics are not Christians.[13] Sengstock cites Slick's essay "Are Roman Catholics Christian?"[13][14]"(CARM) From Jesus Saves on CARM:

Oh...and here ARE the religions that CARM (Slick and presumably yourself) are against:

"Also, find a good church to go to. Most are good, but here are some to avoid: the Roman Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox, the Mormons, The Jehovah's Witnesses, United Presbyterian, United Methodist, United Pentecostal, and United Apostolic."

Well maybe he doesn't save you if you go to one of those churches.

5. CARM (Matthew J. Slick on what constitutes a "cult": "The division between World Religions and Religious Groups/Cults, according to CARM, is by the number of members each group has. If a group has less than one million members, it is considered a religious group and/or cult. Why this number? Why not? It is a round figure and seems to be sufficient for now."

Oh? So if you're a member of a Christian group that has less than a million members, you're a "group and/or cult"?

So in perspective Matt Slick only believes in what Matt Slick teaches. He has a very narrow viewpoint of what a Christian is based on group size and whether or not they agree with him. You can continue to hold him up as an expert but he and his limited number of followers seem more cultic than UCG by a longshot.

13 posted on 12/21/2013 12:32:34 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Again, more blog pimping for the UCG cult? A disclaimer is in order:

And please stop pimping CARM on every article I post. It's kind of weird.

14 posted on 12/21/2013 12:36:16 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC; All

“Seriously? You’re using the website CARM, which IS a cult run by one guy in it for the money to “prove” that UCG is a cult?”


You don’t know the meaning of what a “cult” is. It is applied to any non-Christian group that denies the Trinity, which naturally includes the UCG. The UCG also asserts that they are the true church of God on Earth, and that baptism by the hands of their members is necessary for salvation. This is the same position as the Mormons, JWs, Oneness Pentecostals, etc.

As for the rest of what you wrote, CARM is a well known and respected apologetics website, and the material is offered freely, though they do sell books and accept donations. If there is anything incorrect represented about the UCG’s teachings in the article, you should be able to demonstrate that, without claiming that CARM “lies” or is “selective.”

All the material from the CARM link is footnoted with sources straight from your religion.

Your weird attack against CARM, therefore, has no credibility whatsoever.


15 posted on 12/21/2013 12:37:23 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
All the material from the CARM link is footnoted with sources straight from your religion. Your weird attack against CARM, therefore, has no credibility whatsoever.

Are you Matt Slick? Is that why you're pimping this guy and his website?

16 posted on 12/21/2013 12:39:02 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Natural “disasters” have been around since the beginning of time. Only when it affects humans are they called disasters.


17 posted on 12/21/2013 12:39:21 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
As for the rest of what you wrote, CARM is a well known and respected apologetics website,

It might be well known but it's not respected by Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, the Mormons, The Jehovah's Witnesses, United Presbyterian, United Methodist, United Pentecostal, United Apostolic and hundreds of other groups that Slick (you??) deem to be outside of Christianity.

Again...are you Matt Slick? Are you pimping your own website so you can personally profit from it?

18 posted on 12/21/2013 12:47:16 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I’ve got go out for a while Mr. Slick (?) so I won’t be able to respond for a while...I’ll pick it up later tonight...


19 posted on 12/21/2013 12:56:51 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC; All

“I’ve got go out for a while Mr. Slick (?) so I won’t be able to respond for a while...I’ll pick it up later tonight...”


What differences do your responses make? You are not disputing the teachings of the UCG, only the fact that I used an article from CARM to expose them. But, all Christians reject groups which deny the Trinity, and have for all ages.

From the Catholic EWTN list of Cults:

“Worldwide Church of God - Leader: Hurbert W. Armstrong
. Jesus is a part of the godhead (God is a family) and men can become like Jesus and part of the God family - Sons of God. They do not believe in a closed godhead (TRINITY). The Holy Spirit is not considered a person, but the Father and the Son work through it. (Derivate cult - International Church of God. Leader: Son of Herbert, George, was disowned by his father and started this group that believes the same, but claims that the Worldwide Church lost its authority when Herbert divorced his wife.)”

https://www.ewtn.com/library/NEWAGE/CULTCAT.TXT

These are, of course, the same teachings that your descendant group upholds. Though it’s also outdated, since Armstrong’s successor, in 95, reformed the worldwide church of God and renounced these things. Your group, however, split from them and still upholds these doctrines. From my copy of Walter Martin’s “Kingdom of the Cults”:

“Most of the splinter cults of Armstrongism retain the name ‘Church of God’ somewhere in their title. They mix legalism, including strict Sabbatarianism, with a variety of Armstrong’s leading doctrinces. Two other noteworthy groups among these are the Global Church of God, located in San Diego, California, and the United Church of God in Arcadia, California. The former has a television following on two superstations covering much of the United States, while the latter publishes The Good News magazine and covers thirty television stations with programming.” (Walter Martin, The Kingdom of the Cults, Ed. Hank Hanegraaff. Pg. 472)

Your arguments are absolutely irrelevant so long as your religion teaches what it does.

As for whether or not I’m Matt Slick, the Catholics here have accused me of being James White. Why not add another name to my legend?


20 posted on 12/21/2013 3:00:21 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: DouglasKC; RichInOC; Prince of Space; JoeFromSidney; TNMountainMan; alphadog; infool7; ...
I don't dispute any doctrine of UCG. In fact I proudly embrace each and every one because they're biblical and were the practice of 1st century Christians.
Nope, not even close. They represent a very recent money cult.
22 posted on 12/21/2013 9:10:08 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: narses
I don't dispute any doctrine of UCG. In fact I proudly embrace each and every one because they're biblical and were the practice of 1st century Christians. Nope, not even close. They represent a very recent money cult.

The organization is fairly new, but the doctrine is biblical and modeled after the practices and beliefs of 1st century Christians.

23 posted on 12/21/2013 9:14:25 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

“...but the doctrine is biblical and modeled after the practices and beliefs of 1st century Christians.”

Bzzt, wrong again.


25 posted on 12/21/2013 9:16:44 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Let's try this again....

What differences do your responses make? You are not disputing the teachings of the UCG, only the fact that I used an article from CARM to expose them. But, all Christians reject groups which deny the Trinity, and have for all ages.

I fully embrace the teachings and doctrine of UCG because they're biblical and were the practice of the 1st century church.

I reject discussing them with you because you exhibit ignorance of the organization and your habit has been to tear down and destroy rather then discuss.

As for whether or not I’m Matt Slick, the Catholics here have accused me of being James White. Why not add another name to my legend?

That's not an answer. IF you are Matt Slick then it's in your best financial interest, based on the CARM website, to put all organizations that disagree with your philosophy in the worst possible light.

26 posted on 12/21/2013 9:29:31 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
I fully embrace the teachings and doctrine of UCG because they're biblical and were the practice of the 1st century church.

27 posted on 12/21/2013 9:32:54 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: DouglasKC

“Let’s try this again....”


You should have given up the first time.

“I reject discussing them with you...”


You would lose any debate in which you attack the Trinity and assert your rubbish about joining the “God family” and whatnot. My aim was just to warn other Freepers that the source of this article was a church known to be a religious cult.

Mission pretty well accomplished, since you’ve stopped accusing me of being in error about what your religion teaches.

“That’s not an answer. IF you are Matt Slick then it’s in your best financial interest, based on the CARM website, to put all organizations that disagree with your philosophy in the worst possible light.”


My legend grows! LOL


28 posted on 12/21/2013 9:35:11 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: narses

Thanks...I get it... I understand your position.


29 posted on 12/21/2013 9:35:16 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
You would lose any debate in which you attack the Trinity and assert your rubbish about joining the “God family” and whatnot. My aim was just to warn other Freepers that the source of this article was a church known to be a religious cult. Mission pretty well accomplished, since you’ve stopped accusing me of being in error about what your religion teaches.

You're in error on a number of points of course but from past discussions I know that you're not interested in discussion. You are the living embodiment of what Christ warned about in Matthew 7:6.

30 posted on 12/21/2013 9:40:24 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

From the Catholic EWTN list of Cults:

“Worldwide Church of God - Leader: Hurbert W. Armstrong

Jesus is a part of the godhead (God is a family) and men can become like Jesus and part of the God family - Sons of God.

They do not believe in a closed godhead (TRINITY). The Holy Spirit is not considered a person, but the Father and the Son work through it.

Derivate cult - International Church of God. Leader: Son of Herbert, George, was disowned by his father and started this group that believes the same, but claims that the Worldwide Church lost its authority when Herbert divorced his wife.)”

https://www.ewtn.com/library/NEWAGE/CULTCAT.TXT


31 posted on 12/21/2013 9:43:33 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: Kartographer

Ping worthy.


32 posted on 12/22/2013 4:50:53 AM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

It is nice to see that you are using GLAAD techniques against another freeper. A real conservative would politely express an opinion and then leave it up to the individual to make up their own mind.


33 posted on 12/22/2013 4:54:52 AM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: carriage_hill; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; ...

Preppers’ PING!!

Hat tip to carriage_hill for the heads-up!


34 posted on 12/22/2013 5:08:56 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: carriage_hill
"thin veneer between civilization and chaos..."

Or as I like to remind people:

"Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working."

"But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon."
Quark from: The Siege of AR-558
35 posted on 12/22/2013 5:14:30 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: DouglasKC; Greetings_Puny_Humans
Are you Matt Slick? Is that why you're pimping this guy and his website?

Are you serious?

We could be asking the very same questions about you.

What a prefect example of the pot calling the kettle black.

For that matter, GPH only referenced his post in great detail as opposed to posting an entire thread that is only excerpted forcing those who want to read more to click on the link.

36 posted on 12/22/2013 5:22:16 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: DouglasKC; Greetings_Puny_Humans
It might be well known but it's not respected by Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, the Mormons, The Jehovah's Witnesses, United Presbyterian, United Methodist, United Pentecostal, United Apostolic and hundreds of other groups that Slick (you??) deem to be outside of Christianity.

FOTFLOL!!!

Of course it's not respected by those whose errors it's exposing.

What a no-brainer.

Thanks for giving it even MORE credibility.

37 posted on 12/22/2013 5:25:33 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: verga; Greetings_Puny_Humans
Actually, a real conservative would do exactly what GPH did. Post the FACTS and NOT opinion and let people decide for themselves.

GPH is not the one who is impolite. The one doing that is throwing mud hoping to get it to stick to discredit GPH for exposing his cult.

Do you support the UCG that you are defending it?

38 posted on 12/22/2013 5:29:57 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom
For that matter, GPH only referenced his post in great detail as opposed to posting an entire thread that is only excerpted forcing those who want to read more to click on the link.

I didn't realize that excerpting a post was so "bad". If you care to look at my posting history (look on my homepage for a link) you can see that I rarely if ever do that. But of course I suspect that's not the real issue here....

39 posted on 12/22/2013 5:41:08 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: metmom
GPH is not the one who is impolite. The one doing that is throwing mud hoping to get it to stick to discredit GPH for exposing his cult. Do you support the UCG that you are defending it?

Oh boy...nice question clearly born out of Christian love and concern.... :-)

I've been on FreeRepublic since April of 1998 (almost 16 years) and have posted dozens and dozens of Christian based articles. I've seen people come and go who want to tear down me and the church of God. I've been "exposed" more times than I can count.

In that time I've learned that the only thing types like GPH are "exposing" is that they have nothing positive to offer in way of the gospel message or what Jesus Christ can do to change our lives and our hearts. Instead they offer destruction, hostility and acrimony.

40 posted on 12/22/2013 5:57:57 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Thank you for posting the article.
Be (and remain) strong in the Lord.


41 posted on 12/22/2013 6:43:40 AM PST by Lowell1775
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To: redlegplanner

“This article was an interesting comment on the difference between the pink tribe and grey tribe. R rated language, but a good read.

http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000129.html";

Thank you for posting this link and bringing it to my attention. The writer is of my own mind.

My favorite and perhaps most timely excerpt.....

“There is no corner on virtue, and no outpost of depravity. Human hearts are indistinguishable and interchangeable. Anyone who claims otherwise is, without further argument or statements necessary, a complete G^^-d::ned idiot.”

Perhaps self righteous is a more appropriate and God approved modifier, though.

Again. Thank you.


42 posted on 12/22/2013 6:49:54 AM PST by Lowell1775
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To: DouglasKC

And you are more than just weird ...


43 posted on 12/22/2013 7:50:22 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
And you are more than just weird ...

Love you too... :-)

44 posted on 12/22/2013 7:58:19 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC; metmom; Greetings_Puny_Humans
In that time I've learned that the only thing types like GPH are "exposing" is that they have nothing positive to offer in way of the gospel message or what Jesus Christ can do to change our lives and our hearts. Instead they offer destruction, hostility and acrimony.

I do not agree with the tenets of DKC's faith, but I don't see him intentionally speeding lies about the Catholic Church, or relentlessly abusing other Christians in such a way that makes me wonder if he is Christian.

There are more than a few people that call themselves Christian on these forums that really need top sit down and ask themselves what are they really trying to accomplish. Are they building up the body of Christ, or merely saying "Thank God I am not...."

45 posted on 12/22/2013 8:15:28 AM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"The chaos is here. The wildings, the knockout games, the violence at K-Mart sales ... the chaos is here and it’s just a matter of time before the Levee breaks."

Ditto

Prepare Now.

46 posted on 12/22/2013 11:16:12 AM PST by blam
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To: verga; metmom; All

“I do not agree with the tenets of DKC’s faith, but I don’t see him intentionally speeding lies about the Catholic Church, or relentlessly abusing other Christians in such a way that makes me wonder if he is Christian.

There are more than a few people that call themselves Christian on these forums that really need top sit down and ask themselves what are they really trying to accomplish. Are they building up the body of Christ, or merely saying “Thank God I am not....”


A Christian is not defined by how nice they are about heresy, otherwise Paul would have been run out for not “building up the body of Christ” in his battle with the false apostles/teachers:

2Co 11:10 As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia.
2Co 11:11 Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth.
2Co 11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

The UCG, along with other cults, not only deny the essentials of Christianity, starting off with the trinity, but assert that all Christendom is in apostascy, with their church only having the Holy Spirit. Quite literally, that is the teaching of the UCG, which requires the laying on of hands by members of their church in order to receive the Spirit in the first place.

My goal was only to let Freepers know that the source of this article was a well known religious cult which teaches such things. Knowledge is power, ya know.

By the way, be very careful who you assert is a member of the body of Christ.

2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.


47 posted on 12/22/2013 11:30:17 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I>My goal was only to let Freepers know that the source of this article was a well known religious cult which teaches such things.

Then post a comment and a link to it. There is no need for these relentless attacks.

48 posted on 12/22/2013 11:37:21 AM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: verga

“Then post a comment and a link to it. There is no need for these relentless attacks.”


I did that. Though the Pro-Heresy brigade has been spamming my ping box.


49 posted on 12/22/2013 11:40:55 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: DouglasKC; Kartographer
“There's a thin veneer between civilization and chaos...”

Seventy-two hours is figuring the length of time for 3 days to eat 9 meals. I think chaos would start before the three days is up if there is NO food to be had. If there is none there, that fact alone would start the chaos whether or not they had food in the house. Fear would take over quickly and chaos would happen.

50 posted on 12/22/2013 2:02:53 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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