Skip to comments.Card. Meisner cites Pope Francis: No Communion for divorced, remarried
Posted on 12/24/2013 10:43:18 AM PST by markomalley
A reader sent the following. Cardinal Meisner of Cologne gave an interview to Deutschlandrundfunk.
You might be interested in this interview with Cardinal Meisner:
In his third answer, he says the following (its my translation in English, probably very bad):
At my last meeting with Pope Francis, I had the opportunity to talk very open to him about a lot of things. And I told him that some questions remain unanswered in his style of spreading the gospel through interviews and short speeches, questions which need some extended explanation for people who are not so involved. The pope looked at me with big eyes and asked me to give an example. And my response was : During the flight back from Rio you were asked about people who divorced and remarried. And the pope responded frankly: People who are divorced can receive communion, people who are remarried cant. In the orthodox church you can marry twice. And then he talked about mercy, which, according to my view, is seen in this country only as a surrogate for all human faults. And the pope responded quite bluntly that hes a son of the church, and he doesnt proclaim anything else than the teachings of the church. And mercy has to be identical with truth if not, she doesnt deserve that name. Furthermore, when there are open theological questions, its up to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to give detailed responses.
From this we can perhaps glean that Pope Francis may not be entirely aware of the havoc (¿lío?) that some of his home-spun, off-the-cuff comments in the mainstream media have caused.
It would be interesting to see His Holiness reaction to the story about the Catholic school kids in Seattle protesting in favor of some homosexual thing while citing the phrase Who am I to judge. The same for catholic politicians in Illinois citing the same when they passed same-sex marriage.
However, Pope Francis confirmed what I have been saying all along. He is not going to change the Churchs teachings (as if he could). Divorced and remarried? No Communion.
Furthermore, Francis stressed the role of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. He doesnt sound like someone who wants to devolve the role of the Congregation to regional conferences.
There is the option for the remarried to
(1) live together as brother and sister, or
(2) arrange to have your ex die. That may be part of the justification for Obamacare denying care to sick people.
Nancy Pelosi will be offered communion by the Church.Something is very wrong.
Anyone opposed to divorce is welcome to spend a week with my ex-wife and then get back to me.
**However, Pope Francis confirmed what I have been saying all along. He is not going to change the Churchs teachings (as if he could). Divorced and remarried? No Communion.**
BTTT for the truth. Wondering if the lamestream media will announce this, too?
Did you notice that? Pretty good Francis quote, hey?
Or it's a Meissner-quoting-Francis-quote, which may or may not splooge a little in translation. Still, it's a good one. I'm gong to use it as one.
It's a good as Pope Benedict's "Forgiveness is not a substitute for justice." (Link)
Deutschland drunk what?now that’s ASKIN’ to be misread.
Not divorce. Divorce and remarriage.
Ex-wife was of such great influence, she not only made me a believer in divorce but also caused me to never again consider marriage.
So I guess I’m all good.
Or my ex-husband. Any Pope is welcome to him.
Divorce is NOT the issue. Taking communion without the Church’s annulment is not allowed.
I know, some people cannot read, some are not Catholic and of course some people are simply SPECIAL.
What did she do, post an excerpt from her blog?
If there had been blogs back then.. she probably would have.
God ‘spiritually’ divorced the House of Israel. Any Christian worth their salt ought to know this.
True, a Josephite marriage. Recommended highly.
I don’t recommend marriage anymore.
Being married to the wrong person is miserable. American culture seems devoted to turning women into the kind of person you wouldn’t want to be married to.
I am glad for, and a bit jealous of, anyone whose experience is different.
Any references of this?
I have long maintained that marriage, aside from religious reasons, is a foolish choice for any American man.
Yes. Jeremiah 3:8. I am using an iPad and do not type well on it or else I would type out the decree. It is why Christ would send His elected disciples to but the ‘lost sheep of the House of Israel’, because part of their punishment was the removal of their memory of who they are. Matthew 10:6
I like Francis’s style. I enjoy seeing the modernists and other leftists and satanists given hope that they have prevailed over God and the Church only to be discombobulated when they read the whole sentence instead of just taking off with the first phrase so to speak.
No problem...Help yerself...
Go for it...Eat all the wafers you want...
C’mon in...We have plenty of room...Help yourself to the ‘real’ pressense...
Wife dumped you because you would not do drugs and get drunk and was abusing your kids???
So you divorced and remarried a good Christian woman???
Well shame on you, you derelict...May God forever spit in your coffee...
I seem to see in verses shortly following it forgiveness, for G-d will not remain angry forever.
“In those days the people of Judah will join the people of Israel, and together they will come from a northern land to the land I gave your ancestors as an inheritance.”
“Anyone opposed to divorce is welcome to spend a week with my ex-wife and then get back to me.
What did she do, post an excerpt from her blog?
lol good one
Yes, forgiveness after repentance. We are not there yet.
I submit that the reestablishment of Israel is evidence, if needed, that there has been repentence.
I have been told that the reestablishment of Israel was a divine miracle, in response to divine prophecy.
Now it might not be, but that is the tough thing about prophecy: if you write it down after it comes true, then it is less convincing. If you write it down before it comes true, and people work because of that to make it true, then it is less convincing.
To be really convincing you need to have a double blind: You have to make the prediction in the dark, then independently make the measurement. Like Schrodinger’s cat.
please send pictures first!!!!