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Why there will be war
Renew America ^ | 12-27-13 | Sylvia Thompson

Posted on 12/27/2013 7:54:53 PM PST by ReformationFan

As the Left foams at the mouth over Phil Robertson, the Christian man who described Almighty God's take on homosexuality and other gross sins, their fear is becoming more and more apparent. They seem gradually to be realizing that they are a pernicious minority that only thrives because they are bolstered by Obama's morally corrupt federal government; intellectually lightweight media, devoid of principles; and interestingly, a general decency of American people influenced by the nation's Judeo-Christian roots. The masses, however, are becoming increasingly fed up with the Left's imposition of a twisted worldview that does not comport with anything resembling America as it was founded, and they are voicing that sentiment by the thousands. So far, the pushback is with protests and petitions against amoral multi-million-dollar corporations, such as Cracker Barrel and A&E. Such benign acts of self-preservation will not continue indefinitely.

If it were not so pathetic, it would be laughable that some leftists actually think that they can dictate to those of us who oppose their worldview how we should say things that offend them. I refer here to the Fox News commentator Greta Van Susteren's question to former governor Sarah Palin on a recent "On the Record" show. She asked Palin if it would not have been better if Mr. Robertson had said what he said differently. That attitude, which is shared by others of Ms. Van Susteren's leftist cohorts on Fox and throughout the culture, is insufferably hubristic. We, who oppose their worldview, must now speak our opposition only in ways that they approve.

It is also interesting that those who oppose biblical Christianity (and a few who claim that they do not oppose it) have trotted out their list of affirmed homosexuals who proclaim Phil Robertson's right to "his opinion." To any but the scripturally ignorant, Robertson's statements are not "his opinion." He did not inspire the writing of the scriptures that condemn homosexuality; God did. In paraphrasing Scripture, Robertson did not compare homosexuality to bestiality; God did. Robertson's "opinion" is only that he chooses to accept God's directives. What homosexuals and the rest of the Left fail to comprehend is that their ultimate fight is with God, not believing Christians. We just happen to be visible objects to which wrath can be directed.

In a recent airing of the "Sean Hannity" show on Fox Cable News, Hannity hosted two Catholic priests and a female Fox religion commentator to discuss the Robertson issue. This show inadvertently shed light on the division in the Christian church between those who will follow God's directives and those who choose not to.

Of the two priests, one (also a Fox commentator) was clearly of a leftist bent. He tried to make the case that homosexuality is not sin if it is not acted upon. That twisted logic is employed by many proclaimed Christians grappling with how to accept homosexuality for personal reasons in light of God's condemnation of it. The second priest (obviously biblically directed) immediately followed with the biblical truth that the inclination to homosexuality itself is condemned by God. He compared the inclination to that of Hannity's lusting after a female, if he chose to do so. Pope Benedict XVI, who preceded the current Pontiff, described homosexuality as a "disordered orientation," allowing for the fact that the behavior can be "ordered" if the homosexual chooses to seek help, obviously from God and, if necessary, from medical professionals.

A moment of deafening silence ensued between the two priests, with a disapproving look from the leftist. He seemed perturbed at having been countered by the other priest. There was no nodding of the head in agreement. It turns out that the priest with the leftist view of Scripture has a homosexual sister in a "union" with another woman.

Frank Camp, a commentator posting at the Last Resistance blog site (12/23/2013), states that the latest strike by the Left against Christians (in the person of Phil Robertson) is a defining moment in time. He predicts, and I agree, that this moment is only one of many coming in the near future as the agenda of the Left becomes more and more hostile toward "average American values." He describes the current circumstances as what happens when Americans get angry and do something about it. As does Mr. Camp, I think there is a power embodied in righteously indignant anger that can take down any foe. That foe, in our time, comprises the Left (in all its manifestations, particularly its defiance against Almighty God); elitists, those in power and those claiming power that they do not deserve (such as Democrats, establishment Republicans, and the media – including the Fox News cadre of liberals and faux-conservatives); and other anti-God, anti-American forces that have long sought America's destruction from within. I truly hope that Phil Robertson has started a different movement, one that is not political but expressive of patriotic America saying "Enough."

Before this nation's founding, a group of pilgrims were able to escape the repression of the Church of England by seeking safe haven in a new territory. There are no more new worlds. There is nowhere else to run, and there will be no coming together in peaceful coexistence. The reason is that Christians are being required to do what we will not and cannot do – defy God for the sake of a corrupt, rotting culture. And not all Christians will passively bow to force.

This space called America cannot be concurrently occupied by the existing opposing worldviews. How this tragedy that is the destruction of America will play out remains to be seen, but I predict that it will not end peacefully.


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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1 posted on 12/27/2013 7:54:53 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Why there will be war
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3105875/posts


2 posted on 12/27/2013 7:57:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: ReformationFan

Thompson’s articles are always to the point. Good read.


3 posted on 12/27/2013 8:09:59 PM PST by Viennacon
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“In a recent airing of the “Sean Hannity” show on Fox Cable News, Hannity hosted two Catholic priests and a female Fox religion commentator to discuss the Robertson issue.”

Anyone know the names of the two priests in question? I ask because I would like to see the video. The author of the article does not seem to actually know what the full teaching on homosexuality is according to the Catholic faith.


4 posted on 12/27/2013 8:12:39 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: ReformationFan

Yeah, looks I was right. The author of the article doesn’t know the full teaching. Here is what is stated elsewhere:

Hannity asked if pre-marital sex, drunkenness, and other things mentioned by Robertson are sins. Morris and Murray said yes. Hannity asked if homosexuality is a sin. Morris said that while homosexuality isn’t a sin, homosexual acts are sinful. Hannity wanted to know what the difference is. When Morris discussed how “inclination” towards sin isn’t sinful, Hannity asked about if “lusting in your heart” is adultery. Morris claimed that Robertson made that distinction. Murray chimed in with the official Catholic position that homosexuality is “a disordered inclination” which should be resisted.
Read more at http://www.newshounds.us/20131223_hannity_defends_phil_robertson_because_homosexuality_is_a_sin_right#AIRJEUxovxshUuLl.99


5 posted on 12/27/2013 8:17:35 PM PST by vladimir998
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The war starts the minute the EBT cards quit working.


6 posted on 12/27/2013 8:18:04 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the greediest, most corrupt, incompetent and murderous force on earth.)
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I’m concerned about the attitudes of the Millennials and younger who view this issue as a civil right rather than spiritual. I found this out recently talking to my early 20’s grandson who was raised in a Christian home. They have been emotionalized to the point of being selectively brainwashed and influenced. The author ignores this demographic.


7 posted on 12/27/2013 8:19:40 PM PST by bigfootbob
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I've been hearing how there was bound to be a war over the secularization and paganization of this country ever since "Impeach Earl Warren" billboards were going up around the country.

People are used to going along to get along, there won't be a war.

There will be blood.

8 posted on 12/27/2013 8:20:13 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory)
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Yes, the brainwashing often seems irreversible, but I find an even worse and more moronic trend in young people. They don’t think of it as a civil right, but a human right! Clearly kids these days no more know what the word ‘right’ means than they know what ‘tolerance’ means.

Of course, I only work on God-given rights. Anything made up by man is ultimately fleeting and easily revocable.


9 posted on 12/27/2013 8:24:49 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The war starts the minute the EBT cards quit working.

That's a war that won't last very long.

One side doesn't even know how to support itself in an advanced industrial country, the largest consumer market in the world.

The other side will have proven expertise in many areas of activity.

10 posted on 12/27/2013 8:31:48 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: vladimir998

Does not the Bible regard homosexuality an abomination to God?


11 posted on 12/27/2013 8:42:11 PM PST by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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To: ReformationFan

War -OR- Tyranny....?

Your Choice!... it will be one or the other..


12 posted on 12/27/2013 8:49:10 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Viennacon

The word “right” has been confused by this generation with the word “want”. If they “want” something then clearly it’s a “right” like marriage redefinition or “free” healthcare, housing, food, clothes, etc.

They basically believe in a “right” to happiness rather than a right to pursue happiness.


13 posted on 12/27/2013 8:52:14 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: bigfootbob

I’m sorry to read that. It’s another reason I’m glad I don’t have any children. With all the cultural brainwashing and the whole “everbody’s jumping off a cliff! I better do so too because everybody else is doing it!” type groupthink I see among the young, it would be especially painful to see a descendant of mine doing so.


14 posted on 12/27/2013 8:55:24 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
If it were not so pathetic, it would be laughable that some leftists actually think that they can dictate to those of us who oppose their worldview how we should say things that offend them.

After being forced to fund government NEA money for public display of photographs of a crucifix in a bucket of urine, methinks Joe Public is just a bit hardened to the idea that he must be "inoffensive" to whatever shifting and subjective standard he is expected to defer.

15 posted on 12/27/2013 9:15:15 PM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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I hear you loud and clear.

After a failed attempt with a lady with kids and seeing how hopeless it was to stem the flow of garbage they were exposed to, I realized that raising kids in this age was not for me.

That was over twenty years ago as well, far worse now.

I know others have done and do it. But homeschooling and all the rest were beyond my capability while going to college at night after work all day back then. By the time I was through that, I was burned out.

Suspect that your shot at having a family at having kids and raising them only has one sweet spot in your life. If lucky, you are ready for it.

16 posted on 12/27/2013 9:17:51 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: ReformationFan
He tried to make the case that homosexuality is not sin if it is not acted upon.

The man has no concept for Christ's teaching:

Matthew 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Yeshua not only did not dispense with the Mosaic Law, He raised the standards of obedience.

17 posted on 12/27/2013 9:19:19 PM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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To: vladimir998

I saw that Hannity show and my first thought was that the author got what was said wrong.


18 posted on 12/27/2013 9:45:50 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Paulie

>> Does not the Bible regard homosexuality an abomination to God?

Over and over and over again — starting in Genesis and ending in The Revelation.


19 posted on 12/27/2013 9:52:40 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: bigfootbob
I’m concerned about the attitudes of the Millennials and younger who view this issue as a civil right rather than spiritual. I found this out recently talking to my early 20’s grandson who was raised in a Christian home. They have been emotionalized to the point of being selectively brainwashed and influenced.

Two words: public schools.

Your grandson is proof positive that the leftist indoctrination forced upon school children is effective enough to undo all of the careful home education and moral teaching of parents, grandparents, and pastors.

There are other contributing forces, but those in the public schools are by far, the most powerful, and should be avoided by decent patriots at all costs.

20 posted on 12/27/2013 9:54:20 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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