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Ukraine: The Mother of God Destroyed the Soviet Empire.
Zenit ^ | May 25, 2012 | Marie-Pauline Meyer

Posted on 12/29/2013 12:56:58 PM PST by steelhead_trout

Archbishop Schevchuk: As a teenager, at that time I was not aware of the dangers because it was completely a secret and every teenager had his own secret. Neither my mother nor my father were aware of this and this was my personal secret. It was after a year that I understood the dangers that could have resulted had I been discovered by the secret police. My parents: my mother was a music teacher and my father was an engineer. Had I been discovered my parents would have lost their jobs. Many people in Ukraine, in the past, who were discovered were either imprisoned or exiled. At that time, however, I did not fully understand nor was I aware of the dangers and the persecution, which was going on in Ukraine.

Q: So nothing happened to you?

Archbishop Schevchuk: Thanks be to God nothing happened. For me and my own perspective, in order for me to openly become a priest, the Mother of God had to destroy the Soviet Union. I remember praying; it is impossible for humans to destroy the evil of the Soviet empire but for God nothing is impossible.

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TOPICS: Catholic; History; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: atheistic; coldwar; collapse; communism; divineintervention; ukraine
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Divne intervention--perhaps in the form of the Virgin Mary-destroyed the USSR. God was tired of the persistent atheism and persecution of God's People in the USSR, and so decided to finish with it, once and for all. This is something the US and Western Europe, along with other "advanced" nations, should keep in mind with our tolerance of sodomy and depravity. It also shows that it wasn't economics that destroyed the USSR, but depravity, cruelty and godlessness that inevitably attracted God's wrath.
1 posted on 12/29/2013 12:56:58 PM PST by steelhead_trout
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To: steelhead_trout

The Virgin Mary was a mortal human being. God might have had a hand in it though


2 posted on 12/29/2013 12:59:34 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: steelhead_trout

Pope John Paul II certainly played a part in it, as did Ronald Reagan. And Polish Catholics.


3 posted on 12/29/2013 1:04:11 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: GeronL

Catholics believe in her less than divinity/ more than common mortal status. There was her Assumption into heaven body and soul. And ‘the seed of the woman shall crush the serpents head. ‘


4 posted on 12/29/2013 1:17:21 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Cicero
Pope John Paul II certainly played a part in it, as did Ronald Reagan. And Polish Catholics.

Zactly, and let us not forget Maggie Thatcher.

5 posted on 12/29/2013 1:22:22 PM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: VRW Conspirator

And thank God the CDU, under Helmut Kohl, was in power in West Germany at the time.


6 posted on 12/29/2013 1:36:49 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: GeronL

God ‘might’ have had a hand in it?

Well I guess if the Mother of God is just another fallen sinner... The God of the Gospels is optional.


7 posted on 12/29/2013 1:41:20 PM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: GeronL

It was me! I’m a saint, I brought it all down!

On a serious side, it’s alarming how many people defer to gods rather than God.


8 posted on 12/29/2013 1:49:23 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: steelhead_trout

So, let’s be aware that God still rules the nations and all those practicing child sacrifice are next.


9 posted on 12/29/2013 1:50:48 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Vaquero

Did i miss something? Elijah went into heaven alive, not sure of any others.


10 posted on 12/29/2013 1:51:03 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

I agree.


11 posted on 12/29/2013 1:53:29 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: steelhead_trout

Thanks for posting. BTTT


12 posted on 12/29/2013 1:53:46 PM PST by steve86 (*Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Mary Thatcher!


13 posted on 12/29/2013 1:57:49 PM PST by cornelis
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To: Bulwyf

According to the Catholic bible, Elijah died.


14 posted on 12/29/2013 2:00:17 PM PST by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY.)
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To: steelhead_trout
Archbishop Schevchuk: Thanks be to God nothing happened. For me and my own perspective, in order for me to openly become a priest, the Mother of God had to destroy the Soviet Union. I remember praying; it is impossible for humans to destroy the evil of the Soviet empire but for God nothing is impossible.

A first year logic student knows god
cannot have a mother or else she is god.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
15 posted on 12/29/2013 2:04:31 PM PST by Uriel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Bulwyf
not sure of any others.

Enoch

16 posted on 12/29/2013 2:05:50 PM PST by xone
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To: kitkat

I wouldn’t doubt it.


17 posted on 12/29/2013 2:06:23 PM PST by xone
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To: Bulwyf

http://catholicism.about.com/od/holydaysandholidays/p/Assumption.htm


18 posted on 12/29/2013 2:12:37 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: steelhead_trout

They locked God outside the Iron Curtain.
On old Satan, they have placed a kingly crown.
But this evil nation will never find salvation
Till the Lord tears the Iron Curtain down.
—Wesley Tuttle, 1952.


19 posted on 12/29/2013 2:20:35 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: kitkat
According to the Catholic bible, Elijah died.

Are you sure? If so give me the passages. I would like to read them. I have a Douay-Rheims bible.

20 posted on 12/29/2013 2:25:18 PM PST by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: steelhead_trout

Let’s not split hairs over the semi-divinity or mortal status of the Virgin Mary. In my opinion, she was not divine nor is someone to pray to, but just another mortal who had a miracle worked in her life, in fact the greatest miracle of all.

Regardless, this man seems like a devout priest and I rejoice with him in the death of that demonic union. Unfortunate Ukraine seems hell-bent on plunging itself into the next worst thing, the EUSSR!


21 posted on 12/29/2013 2:45:22 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: kitkat

Well, can put that bible in the same place as all the other false ones then.


22 posted on 12/29/2013 3:22:36 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Vaquero

Wow, didn’t know they thought that.


23 posted on 12/29/2013 3:25:06 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

I went to a parochial catholic school for 10 years. The name of the church and school was “Our Lady of the Assumption”.

When you say “they” you mean the church that all Protestant churches sprung from. You may disagree with that belief but your church for good or Ill rejected that tenant of the Catholic Church when they split from it.


24 posted on 12/29/2013 3:51:37 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Uri’el-2012

I’m no student, but you’re statement begs the question: How can God become incarnate as a human, without a mother? An egg? Materialize from nothing?


25 posted on 12/29/2013 3:53:50 PM PST by Hugin
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To: steelhead_trout

Hate to say this... but God has no mother.. Jesus, on the other hand did.


26 posted on 12/29/2013 4:06:20 PM PST by Bikkuri ( those would have been affected.)
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To: Hugin
I’m no student, but you’re statement begs the question: How can God become incarnate as a human, without a mother? An egg? Materialize from nothing?

The philosophy of religious tenants often require pure faith. If an all powerful God exists he can make himself mortal any way he likes. The laws of mammalian biology should not be an impediment. Nor should the laws of physics. If he wants to be born of a mother, then that should not present a problem either

27 posted on 12/29/2013 4:08:03 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Cicero

Reagan and the United States and NATO is the force that brought down the USSR, we spent billions and many lives doing it.

Reagan was fortunate to have some very helpful allies and one important one was having a Polish Pope in place.


28 posted on 12/29/2013 4:26:04 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Bulwyf

Ps

I’m not saying you are wrong or right in your particular belief set. I would love to have the real skinny on all of existance (or creation if you will).

No amount of reading gilt edge pages with whomevers imprimatur has convinced me that there is definitive truth. I would pay good money for the whole unexpurgated truth. Alas no one offers that only the faith based answer. I need more.


29 posted on 12/29/2013 4:29:28 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: dfwgator
Kohl was the father of modern Germany. We were lucky that he was in power at the time.
30 posted on 12/29/2013 5:39:50 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: steelhead_trout

and perhaps the Soviet Union was destroyed so that “Russia,” which is to say the east could come to the rescue of the west, to save it from the lies of the Enlightenment.


31 posted on 12/29/2013 7:23:07 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Bulwyf

“On a serious side, it’s alarming how many people defer to gods rather than God.”

Here’s a serious question: What gods?


32 posted on 12/29/2013 7:24:34 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Bikkuri

“Hate to say this... but God has no mother.. Jesus, on the other hand did.”

Love to say this... Jesus is God.. and He has a mother.


33 posted on 12/29/2013 7:25:50 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: steelhead_trout

Hate to say it, (no,I don’t), but we just dunno!


34 posted on 12/29/2013 7:27:59 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: kitkat

I checked my Catholic bible ... you’re wrong.


35 posted on 12/29/2013 8:01:07 PM PST by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Vaquero
Vaquero said: "Alas no one offers that only the faith based answer. I need more."

According to the "gilt edge pages" there is nothing more than the faith based answer. And, if you read the Book of Job, it illustrates that a person's "need" is irrelevant.

36 posted on 12/29/2013 8:28:55 PM PST by William Tell
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To: GeronL

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.

She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.

(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)


37 posted on 12/29/2013 8:29:54 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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38 posted on 12/29/2013 8:30:12 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: William Tell

I am not Job. I don’t see the endgame and I don’t have his patients.

I spent decades learning the ‘truth’, but it never really showed itself.


39 posted on 12/29/2013 9:05:26 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: painter

Elijah was carried to heaven in a whirlwind.

Enoch “walked with God”


40 posted on 12/29/2013 9:15:28 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: vladimir998

Fully God, Fully man


41 posted on 12/29/2013 9:16:37 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Vaquero

**patients.**

Job wasn’t a doctor.


42 posted on 12/29/2013 9:17:44 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: steelhead_trout; All

She didn’t do a very good job. None of the commie criminals were ever brought to justice; in fact, they just changed party affiliation and became “capitalists.”


43 posted on 12/30/2013 2:14:10 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Salvation
**patients.**

Job wasn’t a doctor.

iPhone thumb typing and auto correct rears its ugly head again....have patience with me....

44 posted on 12/30/2013 4:35:27 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: vladimir998

buddha, shiva, allah, mary, take your pick, they are all gods, none to be worshiped or prayed to.

God alone has that right. The trinity.


45 posted on 12/30/2013 4:59:58 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Hugin
I’m no student, but you’re statement begs the question: How can God become incarnate as a human, without a mother? An egg? Materialize from nothing?

Might want to ask Adam and Eve...

46 posted on 12/30/2013 5:05:10 AM PST by Iscool
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To: vladimir998
Love to say this... Jesus is God.. and He has a mother.

You can say it all you want...Doesn't make it true...

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Where's Mary???

47 posted on 12/30/2013 5:09:49 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Bulwyf

“buddha, shiva, allah, mary, take your pick, they are all gods, none to be worshiped or prayed to.”

Mary is a human person. None of us have ever claimed she is a god. We don’t worship her, never have, never will. I see no reason not to venerate the saints God has given us in the Communion of Saints.

“God alone has that right. The trinity.”

That’s the Trinity. I worship the Trinity alone.


48 posted on 12/30/2013 5:38:38 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Iscool

“You can say it all you want...Doesn’t make it true...”

It is true, even if I don’t say it.

“Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Where’s Mary???”

She didn’t exist yet. God the Son had not taken flesh and been born of woman yet either. When He was, He had a mother and her name was Mary. Mary is the mother of God. Jesus is God.


49 posted on 12/30/2013 5:40:42 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: steelhead_trout
The Soviets tried to kill off God, so God killed them back.

Russia was then reborn and rose up from those godless, marxist ashes.

I look forward to the Pope's visit to Russia and to what that event will set into motion.

50 posted on 12/30/2013 6:50:40 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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