Posted on 12/29/2013 9:04:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Franklin Graham, the son of evangelist Billy Graham, says he’s at odds on the issue of homosexuality with Pope Francis, who famously told reporters this summer, “If a person is gay and seeks God and has goodwill, who am I to judge them?”
“I think he’s right when he says he’s not the judge,” Graham said in an interview that aired Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” adding: “He’s not the judge. God is the judge.”
Graham said he feels compelled to tell people about his belief that homosexuality is a sin — and declared that he wouldn’t shift on the issue.
“God would have to shift — and God doesn’t,” he said. “God’s word is the same, yesterday and today and a million years from now.”(continued)
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
Brothers and sisters, let us acknowledge our sins, and so prepare ourselves to celebrate the sacred mysteries.
I confess to almighty God
and to you my brothers and sisters,
that I have greatly sinned,
in my thoughts and in my words,
in what I have done and in what I have failed to do,
through my fault, through my fault,
through my most grievous fault;
therefore I ask blessed Mary ever-virgin,
all the Angels and Saints, and you my
brothers and sisters, to pray for me to the Lord
our God.
May almighty God have mercy on us, forgive of our
sins, and bring us to everlasting life. Amen.
Once again the “unchanging” Church knuckles under, those awful Fundamentalist Protestants stay true.
The Church needs to replace its old motto of “always the same” with “always evolving.”
yea like Mike Murdock, Swaggert, Hines, etc etc and when was the last time your boy Joel spoke of sin.
All sinners are welcomed into the church, yet they must repent and change their ways like all of us. If only non-sinners went to church, churches would be empty
Perhaps Graham was mistranslated.
Actually there is a difference.. Graham is willing to tell them they will die in their sin and go to hell .....The pope well who is he to judge ??
When the Pope speaks from a special chair—his words are infalible and reflect the will of God. But when he’s not, its just his opinion.
You’ve hit the nail on the head for those of us who are Catholic and find the “Who am I to judge?” comment troubling.
You know where I stand on changes in the Church. However, the Church has not changed in its doctrine re: homosexual acts. The problem is the impression/message that certain comments give/send, certain liberal (”Wuerl”) appointments made by Francis, the concern that there could be changes on the horizon, the fact that a leading gay and lesbian magazine chose Francis as Person of the Year, etc.
As of now, however, there have been no official change.
It’s ultimately tradition that follows on which selects what’s “ex cathedra” anyhow... so the problem of official doctrine still isn’t actually solved, it is only consensused. We have ongoing intrigue here, though kept in bounds by the Lord.
Agh, if there is not an obligatory hellfire with the message, it’s gotta be WRONG.
Uh, I don’t think so.
That is the same thing I was thinking. You said it better. It is the part the Pope did not finish with that excites the lefties.
Not so much a hellfire message but the obligatory full Catholic teaching. All too often, Francis only speaks part of the Truth. Sometimes, he speaks lies (as in his latest comment about Mary). Both cause serious problems.
If someone wants to hear the whole 9 yards of Catholic theologizing, that someone can always look it up online. Sometimes a heavy immediate theology dump is not the grace God has in mind. Jesus wasn’t into such things; why should we Christians be more arrogant?
Jesus was clear in what He meant (even to the point of not holding back “hard sayings”). Popes have a responsibility to give a clear Catholic response. Francis is sorely lacking in his responsibility. The fruits of which are clear.
If he is not allowed to judge homosexuals, then he is not allowed to judge homosexual priests who molest boys.
You can either judge or not.
Let me try to do this as delicately as I can.
I fervently wish that someone would ask the Pope, “Is it right and proper for a man to join his genital to the oral or anal cavity of another man? Is it right and proper for a woman to stimulate the genitals of another woman?”
Phil Robertson laid it on the line with his use of graphic language. He actually set up the Pope quite well. Now, if a reporter will just follow up, some clarity can be brought. This matter of the difference is orientation / temptation and conduct / behavior is widely ignored and must be brought forth forcefully, if graphically.
Ain't nobody got time fo' dat.
Most of all the msm who must cater to the gnat like attention span of their consumers.
I’m not sure whether you’re being serious or mocking those of us who call for clarity in Church teaching.
Serious as a heart attack.
The actual teaching is clear already. The presentation is not, as far as mass consumption. Some manner is forced feeding is indicated.
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