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The hidden exodus: Catholics becoming Protestants
National Catholic Reporter ^ | Apr. 18, 2011 | Thomas Reese

Posted on 12/30/2013 9:35:20 AM PST by RnMomof7

......"The U.S. Religious Landscape Survey by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life has put hard numbers on the anecdotal evidence: One out of every 10 Americans is an ex-Catholic. If they were a separate denomination, they would be the third-largest denomination in the United States, after Catholics and Baptists. One of three people who were raised Catholic no longer identifies as Catholic.........

"Thankfully, although the U.S. bishops have not supported research on people who have left the church, the Pew Center has.

Pew’s data shows that those leaving the church are not homogenous. They can be divided into two major groups: those who become unaffiliated and those who become Protestant. Almost half of those leaving the church become unaffiliated and almost half become Protestant. Only about 10 percent of ex-Catholics join non-Christian religions.

This article will focus on Catholics who have become Protestant. I am not saying that those who become unaffiliated are not important; I am leaving that discussion to another time."................

"Nor are the people becoming Protestants lazy or lax Christians. In fact, they attend worship services at a higher rate than those who remain Catholic. While 42 percent of Catholics who stay attend services weekly, 63 percent of Catholics who become Protestants go to church every week. That is a 21 percentage-point difference.

" Seventy-one percent say their faith is “very strong,” while only 35 percent and 22 percent reported that their faith was very strong when they were children and teenagers, respectively. On the other hand, only 46 percent of those who are still Catholic report their faith as “very strong” today as an adult.

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"Thus, both as believers and as worshipers, Catholics who become Protestants are statistically better Christians than those who stay Catholic. We are losing the best, not the worst".
1 posted on 12/30/2013 9:35:20 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: daniel1212; boatbums; bkaycee; wmfights; metmom; presently no screen name; smvoice; Alex Murphy; ...

Interesting article


2 posted on 12/30/2013 9:39:15 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

“Almost half of those leaving the church become unaffiliated and almost half become Protestant.”

Well, we can be thankful that half those who leave have found a strong faith in Christ.

In my experience, I’ve observed that former catholics who come to saving faith in Christ become committed Christians. Starting on third base (for which they should be thankful to Rome), when they round home, they are on fire.


3 posted on 12/30/2013 9:39:31 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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To: RnMomof7

Priests like Reese and their “social justice” agenda have something to do with this phenomenon IMHO.


4 posted on 12/30/2013 9:47:25 AM PST by forgotten man
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To: RnMomof7

This does not compare to the losses the Catholic Church is experiencing underground in Latin America to so-called Evangelical groups that often have voodoo and cult elements. Not being a Catholic, I can only offer the advice that the church needs to rethink its strategy.


5 posted on 12/30/2013 9:47:26 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: RnMomof7

God works in wondrous ways ...


6 posted on 12/30/2013 9:48:25 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: RnMomof7

There are still some protestant denominations and many individual Churches that have not yet sold out to international Marxism. The Catholic church is completely infested with them, from top to bottom. Marxism is just another guise of Satan. Many former Catholics have seen this and just cannot take it anymore. Many current Catholics see it too, just just can’t bring themselves to believe it. At least that is my opinion.


7 posted on 12/30/2013 9:48:58 AM PST by ohiobuckeye1997
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To: RnMomof7

Sort of depends on your reason for leaving IMO. Some people leave the Church due to sincere differences with key pieces of Church teaching or practice (the need for the Sacrament of Reconciliation, don’t accept the full-on opposition to all birth control, disgust at the mishandling of pedophile priests, etc.)

Others leave for more cynical/selfish reasons (did not like a particular priest or bishop, were not allowed to have an outdoor wedding, felt they got too much grief when they sought an annulment, etc.)

I doubt many in that latter group become productive or passionate members of any other church.


8 posted on 12/30/2013 9:49:09 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: RnMomof7

My wife was very active as a Catholic. She became protestant a few years before we met. This would have been her late 30’s.

And one of my former friends, a former deacon in a rather large AG church, at about age 42 dumped his wife and married a Catholic lady. He’s now catholic. At least, so he says.


9 posted on 12/30/2013 9:49:13 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: RnMomof7

Looks to me like the Catholic population is growing.

Catholic population (The Official Catholic Directory)
1965 - 45.6m

1975 - 48.7m

1985 - 52.3m

1995 - 57.4m

2000 - 59.9m

2005 - 64.8m

2013 - 66.8m

 


10 posted on 12/30/2013 9:52:53 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RnMomof7

If you count my 2 kids, my wife, and me, we have 20 years of Jesuit education under our belts.

This article is just about what one would expect from a Jesuit former editor of America.

IMHO, the Society of Jesus has been at the forefront of undermining Catholicism since Vatican 2.


11 posted on 12/30/2013 9:53:45 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: RnMomof7

The “best” by whose standards? Does weekly mass attendance make you best? Catholics who leave the church because they are more spiritually fulfilled by protestant services are ignorant of the beauty of the Church.

The catholic church is the original church founded by Christ and carried forward by Peter. All other denominations are offshoots. Where do protestants think the bible came from?

It is the responsibility of each parish priest and lay leader and parent to ensure that each generation understands the beauty of all the sacraments and the richness of catholic tradition. It is astounding that many catholics think an inspiring talk is of more value than the physical and spiritual consumption of our Lord. It is a failure of religious education ( one that I have seen personally) that children and teenagers don’t know the tenants of their own faith. Are these people asleep at mass? Biblical scripture is read at every mass and dissected and digested by the priests during their homilies and yet as catholics we do not stand up to the charges that we do not know our bible… ridiculous! We know our bible…what we don’t recognize is Christ’s real presence before us at mass. What a tragic failure!


12 posted on 12/30/2013 9:57:54 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: RnMomof7

Quoting from the Fishwrap again, I see. LOL!


13 posted on 12/30/2013 9:57:55 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RnMomof7
One thing we can know for certain, is that there will be no denominations in Heaven, only those saved by the blood of Jesus!

There is no other way to Salvation, not infant baptism in any denomination not adult baptism in any denomination but by calling on the name of Jesus!

John 14:6; Romans 5:8; Romans 8:38-39; Romans 8:1-3; John 8:36.

14 posted on 12/30/2013 10:03:03 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: RnMomof7
There's a lot of good that Catholics have done and I love them. But there's another side of Catholicism that I think causes people to turn away - the harsh condemning legalism of the "continued sacrifice" - the "works" the church demands for salvation. This is contrary to the gospel of the grace of God and the New Covenant which Jesus declared on the cross when He said, "It is finished." We are saved by grace, not works (Galatians 2:21, 5:4; Ephesians 2:8-9). His was the perfect sacrifice which needs no further sacrifice (Hebrews 10:12) and which perfects believers forever (Hebrews 10:14).

People are looking for love and acceptance, not more demands and condemnation for falling short. Jesus Christ is who people are looking for because He bore the full judgement for all of our shortcomings so that through Him we are cleansed, healed, made whole and free.

15 posted on 12/30/2013 10:03:16 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: RnMomof7
...Catholics who become Protestants are statistically better Christians than those who stay Catholic.

Anytime someone comes to know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, I say hallelujah!

One aspect of this that we often don't think about is the more that leave the RCC the more that are inclined to be conservatives. The USA will be lost to the left if conservatism doesn't grow.

16 posted on 12/30/2013 10:03:28 AM PST by wmfights
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Ex-Catholics are mostly gays and what are known as “Cafeteria Catholics” They are willing to rejoin on “their” terms.


17 posted on 12/30/2013 10:18:55 AM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: RnMomof7

The National Catholic Reporter. Talk about false advertising. There is nothing Catholic about this newspaper which has refused to remove the word Catholic from its name. It is a left wing rag. Kind of like reading Pravda in the old days before the fall of the USSR.


18 posted on 12/30/2013 10:24:54 AM PST by CdMGuy
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To: Steelfish

“Ex-Catholics are mostly gays and what are known as “Cafeteria Catholics” They are willing to rejoin on “their” terms.”

Wow! Who Jew there were so many gay Catholics being produced at parishes! And Catholics in the food service industry! Gay and Flay!

Go ahead and post your documentation of that, to support your claim. Can’t wait to read it. Others would probably be fascinated by your documentation too.


19 posted on 12/30/2013 10:25:58 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Jew = new

Autocorrect strikes!


20 posted on 12/30/2013 10:29:33 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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To: Salvation

And a large percentage of those leaving do so because the other churches approve serial adultery (i.e., divorce and remarriage.)

The local non denom Pentecostal mega church is over 50% former Catholics. And more than half of them are there because of divorce and remarriage.


21 posted on 12/30/2013 10:38:27 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: RnMomof7

My church is full of ex catholics.

What’s amazing is that the guys are guy guys. Part of it is that the pastor of my church is a man’s man. So he attracts men.

Why did these men fall away however, from the catholic church. My WAG is that they were afraid of exposing their children to Catholic priests. The catholic church has experienced way too much bad publicity in the last two decades.

The same problem inheres to the liberal protestant churches. But everyone knows which protestant churches are liberal. So its easy enough to stay away from them. And indeed they are losing numbers steadily.

Its may be tougher to sort out which catholic churches are conservative and which are liberal. So rather than live with doubt, the guys just leave the catholic church.


22 posted on 12/30/2013 10:39:00 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: RnMomof7

Why are Catholics leaving the church to become Protestants? Maybe it’s because estimates of as high as 50% of Catholic priests are homosexual.


23 posted on 12/30/2013 10:40:56 AM PST by wdk535
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To: ohiobuckeye1997

many individual Churches that have not yet sold out to international Marxism. The Catholic church is completely infested with them, from top to bottom. Marxism is just another guise of Satan. Many former Catholics have seen this and just cannot take it anymore.
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The root and branch of the apostacy in the catholic church is the same as in the liberal protestant churches. the marxists have a low view of Christ. That is they believe that Jesus was fully Man but not fully God.

Same thing is going on in the liberal protestant churches. they too take the low view of christ. They believe that Jesus is fully Man but not fully God.


24 posted on 12/30/2013 10:42:41 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
Wife and I visited Puerto Rico over Christmas week last year. I was surprised to see so many Protestant churches...
25 posted on 12/30/2013 10:45:15 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: wdk535

Please educate yourself. What you say is totally untrue. So you might want to confront the source of your false information.

Pope Benedict sent emissaries to all the seminaries to clean them out.

Now, seminaries are overflowing with straight young men who want to serve only the Lord.

I can send you all my links, if you don’t believe me.

Applicants to the seminary must now take a two day pschye exam, have multiple interviews at the seminary. Even parents are interviewed.

Recommendations are also needed from the parish priest and others who know the applicant.


26 posted on 12/30/2013 10:54:52 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Who knew?


27 posted on 12/30/2013 10:56:10 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

***knew


28 posted on 12/30/2013 10:58:01 AM PST by Bikkuri ( those would have been affected.)
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To: forgotten man

Of course, the watered down Theology-—with Marxist ideology-—destroys Truth.

When the Catholics were taught the Truth (AB Fulton Sheen time and before)-—the Church was strong-—but with the “Church of Nice”-—we have eliminated the reason for it. It is irrelevant in an evil world..... since it has been “modernized” to the weakest elements of Protestantism and meaninglessness.

They no longer teach the Truth with the sword of Jesus in the parishes. It is totally emasculated and homosexualized (feminized).

There are some great priests-—true-—but they are marginalized or replaced by the wishy-washy-—pillsbury boys.


29 posted on 12/30/2013 10:58:55 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Salvation

There is some truth in what you say. St. Benedict was trying to clean out areas but he was thwarted (and resigned). What was THAT all about?

Fr. Oko’s report outlines the Smoke of Satan inside the Vatican and I haven’t notice the purge in the most highest areas where the mis-Theology trickles down to confuse and blur the Truth.

The remark by the present pope about “good Marxists” is particularly troubling. How ignorant can a pope be of that evil ideology when popes for a century have been condemning that evil, dehumanizing ideology for a hundred years in encyclicals. Marxism is total dehumanization-—the opposite of Christian Theology. You do realize there is no God in Marxism and they reduce all men to slaves-—programmed animals without agency.

Why the change? Ideas matter. Truth matters, and the CC used to be so clear on Good and Evil. “Good Marxist” is an oxymoron and confusing to the masses.


30 posted on 12/30/2013 11:09:16 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

Sorry for sloppy editing-—meant Pope Benedict XVI. : )


31 posted on 12/30/2013 11:11:23 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Steelfish
Ex-Catholics are mostly gays
You gotta' be in first place for the "most asinine statement of the day" award.
32 posted on 12/30/2013 11:11:40 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: wdk535
Maybe it’s because estimates of as high as 50% of Catholic priests are homosexual.
You gotta' be in second place for "most asinine comment of the day" award.
See post 17 for numero uno.
33 posted on 12/30/2013 11:15:59 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Who Jew? (shrugs shoulders)


34 posted on 12/30/2013 11:16:10 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: longfellowsmuse
Where do protestants think the bible came from?

God?

35 posted on 12/30/2013 11:20:04 AM PST by xone
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To: longfellowsmuse
Where do protestants think the bible came from?

The KJV came from Antioch, not Alexandria.

36 posted on 12/30/2013 11:33:25 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: RnMomof7
As a Catholic who knows numerous ex-Catholics (both non-practicing and those who convert to Protestantism), I can make three solid observations from my personal experience:

(1) Many left the Church-- not due to doctrine or in a search for truth-- but for personal reasons. These include living in a sinful lifestyle like adultery or homosexual unions; maybe some priest or layperson was "mean" to them or didn't let them have their way in planning a marriage or funeral; they wanted to marry outside the Church and just went with the flow to their spouses church (or lack of same).

(2) Many were lazy and just found the moral and disciplinary laws of the Church too demanding. Heaven forbid they be troubled to attend an hour of Mass or holy day of obligation or go to confession occasionally. These are the type that say "the Church has too many rules" when what they really want is not to have ANY rules or imposition in their leisure time at all.

(3) People who say they left the Church for "doctrinal reason" are usually liars. Fact is, the average Catholic is so ignorant of their own faith they wouldn't know a theological fallacy if it fell on them. It's only after they have left the Church for one of the reasons above that they make up some kind of after-the-fact "theological" reason-- usually it's something they learned in their new church which, odds are, doesn't have a clue what the Catholic Church actually teaches. You only have to talk to most ex-Catholic Protestants for about 5 minutes to know that they didn't know anything about their Catholic Faith when they left it, and their new church has filled in the gaps with misinformation.

Like I said, this is based solely upon about 30 years of first hand experience, but it is borne out consistently again and again.

37 posted on 12/30/2013 11:51:33 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: Salvation

What you wrote is completely true. There is an EXTENSIVE screening procedure now in place to weed out seminarians to the priesthood who might corrupt the Church. I have also noticed in my own archdiocese the new seminarians are much older and have had much more real life experiences before deciding to enter into the priesthood-—obviously a positive development.

I do honestly believe the Church needs to review its policies on mandatory celibacy. Mandatory celibacy is a relatively new development in the Church. There is NOTHING in scripture or in the teachings of Jesus mandating an all male celibate priesthood. The first 40 popes at least were married men. Until about the 12th Century the overwhelming majority of priests and bishops were married men. Mandatory priestly celibacy was introduced in the Middle Ages to confront rampant corruption and nepotism in the Church at that particular time. The policy should be reviewed. We have a number of married priests now serving in my archdiocese (mostly converts from the Episcopalian Church). They are just as fine as the single celibate priests.


38 posted on 12/30/2013 11:54:44 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Salvation

Most of this increase due to hispanic immigration ( both legal and illegal) no doubt.


39 posted on 12/30/2013 11:56:25 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Steelfish
Actually, the vast majority of self-identifying current Catholics are "cafeteria Catholics". 89% of self-identified Catholics think that birth control is morally acceptable.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/154799/americans-including-catholics-say-birth-control-morally.aspx
40 posted on 12/30/2013 11:58:49 AM PST by armydoc
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To: savagesusie

to make the/your point re ‘good marxists’, compare to saying ‘good stalins’ , ‘good lenins’ , ‘good Maos’, ‘good Chavezs’, ‘good Castros’, etc...

and see if they get the point.


41 posted on 12/30/2013 12:03:54 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

The new testament of KJV of the bible completed in 1611 after the reformation was based on the translations of Erasmus a Dutch roman catholic priest and a Greek scholar who used greek byzantine era texts to create the “Textus Receptus”


42 posted on 12/30/2013 12:37:01 PM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: fidelis

A well thought out and correct post as it corresponds with my personal experiences as well.


43 posted on 12/30/2013 12:38:54 PM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: ohiobuckeye1997
Pardon my ignorance but how is the RCC becoming Marxist?

I know the pope said something about gays, it sounds like "including" them and I don't even know what he means by that. Then there was something about unfettered capitalism which made Rush buzz. I suppose he is just touching upon the latest buzz words and showing a leftist trend on them. But argument could be made that "money is the root of all evil" though Rush and others seem to say "the pursuit of money is the root of all good.".

Pardon the ramble, just trying to measure what I hear with the bible.

44 posted on 12/30/2013 12:45:23 PM PST by DungeonMaster
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To: RnMomof7
This article is good news only if one subscribes to the belief that anything is better than Catholicsm.

The term "Protestant" is used as if the Catholics in question are forsaking one Credo for another. They're not. The term "Protestant" does not signify a uniform, coherent system of belief. Some of the Catholics who are leaving are swallowing the lies of the Jehovah's Witnesses. Some are embracing the "prosperity gospel" of Osteen and Hinn. Some are becoming Baptists, some are signing up for Calvinism, some are joing the local storefront preacher and some are becoming Methodists.

In other words, they're being scattered to the four winds. They're cutting themselves adrift on a sea of individualism and subjectivism which are the two overriding characteristics of American congregationalism.

Good luck with that.

45 posted on 12/30/2013 1:04:08 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

As a Catholic myself, I would rather hear the gospel of prosperity than the gospel of redistribution and trickle down we’re getting from the Vatican these days. Be fruitful and multiply we are commanded in the Bible. Celebrate! We’re not put on this earth to give up everything.


46 posted on 12/30/2013 1:37:33 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: RnMomof7
We are losing the best, not the worst

There's a simple way to measure this. As Catholics move into Protestant denominations (or vise versa) does that body vote more / less conservative?

47 posted on 12/30/2013 1:52:13 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: RnMomof7

Nothing is being lost.

The religion is called “Christianity”. And it’s not tiny, it’s big - vast in fact.

There are different ways of doing it.


48 posted on 12/30/2013 1:59:10 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: fidelis

... Wow Mormons say the same stuff about former mormons


49 posted on 12/30/2013 2:13:37 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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To: fidelis

I agree with everything you’ve said here.

Regards,

PS: My formerly Lutheran husband finally entered the Church on Aug. 5, 2013 after only 20 years of marriage!


50 posted on 12/30/2013 2:42:44 PM PST by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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