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Evangelicals and Hollywood Muck
Gospel Coalition ^ | January 6, 2013 | Trevin Wax

Posted on 01/06/2014 5:20:33 PM PST by ReformationFan

I grew up in a fundamentalist environment. The church I was baptized in believed it was inappropriate for Christians to go to a movie theater. To this day, my grandparents maintain this standard as a bulwark against worldliness.

The library at my Christian school had a variety of books for children, sanitized for Christian consumption. Encyclopedia Brown made the cut, but all the “goshes” and “gee whizzes” were marked out with a heavy black pen. No second-hand cursing allowed.

Films without anything objectionable were allowed at school, but looking back, I see how this analysis was applied simplistically. I still remember watching an old version of The Secret Garden - a movie with no cursing, thank goodness, but with a pseudo-pantheistic worldview that healing power is pulsating through all living things.

As a teenager, I discovered the work of Chuck Colson, Francis Schaeffer, and C. S. Lewis. These men had a different perspective on art and its merits. I began to see artistic analysis differently. I realized Disney movies weren’t safe just because they were “clean,” and PG-13 movies weren’t bad just because they had language or violence. It was possible to watch a movie with a critical eye for the underlying worldview.

I never subscribed to the fundamentalist vision that saw holiness in terms of cultural retreat or worldliness as anything that smacked of cultural engagement. I don’t subscribe to that position today.

But sometimes I wonder if evangelicals have swung the pendulum too far to the other side, to the point where all sorts of entertainment choices are validated in the name of cultural engagement.

Generally speaking, I enjoy the movie reviews I read in Christianity Today and World magazine. They go beyond counting cuss words or flagging objectionable content and offer substantive analysis of a movie’s overall message. But in recent years, I’ve begun to wonder if we’re more open than we should be to whatever Hollywood puts out.

Take, for example, Christianity Today’s recent review of The Wolf of Wall Street. Alyssa Wilkinson devotes nearly half of her review to the graphic depictions of immorality, yet still gives the film 3.5 stars out of 4. Another review counts 22 sex scenes, but can’t be sure since it’s hard to tell when one ends and another begins.

My question is this: at what point do we consider a film irredeemable, or at least unwatchable? At what point do we say it is wrong to participate in certain forms of entertainment?

I understand there are complexities to this issue. Some Christians disagreed with the praise showered on the recent Les Miserables film. I am among the number who thought Les Mis showcased the glory of redemption. It was a movie in which the sordid elements only served to accentuate the beauty of grace and the dehumanizing nature of sin.

Les Miserables is not unlike the accounts we read in our Bibles. Sexual immorality, rape, and violence are part and parcel of the Scriptural narrative. If a movie version of the book of Genesis were made, it wouldn’t be for minors. It seems silly to cross out cuss words from Encyclopedia Brown when first-graders can discover some pretty adult-themed events in their Adventure Bibles.

So, please don’t hear me advocating for a simplistic denunciation of Hollywood films. I am not. But I am concerned that many evangelicals may be expending more energy in avoiding the appearance of being “holier-than-thou” than we do in avoiding evil itself.

Yes, Paul used a popular poet of his day in order to make a point in his gospel presentation. Cultural engagement is important and necessary. But church history shows us that for every culture-engager there’s also a Gregory of Nyssa type who saw the entertainment mindset as decadent and deserving of judgment.

Is there justification for viewing gratuitous violence or sexual content?

At what point does our cultural engagement become just a sophisticated way of being worldly?

I find it hard to imagine the ancient Israelites admiring the artwork on the Asherah poles they were called to tear down. I find it hard to picture the early church fathers attending the games at the Roman coliseum, praising the artistic merits of the arena even as they provide caveats against violence.

Yet now in the 21st century, we are expected to find redeemable qualities in what would only be described by people throughout church history as “filth.”

What’s the point in decrying the exploitation of women in strip clubs and mourning the enslavement of men to pornography when we unashamedly watch films that exploit and enslave?

I do not claim to have this all figured out. But one thing I know: our pursuit of holiness must be the mark against which our pursuit of cultural engagement is measured.

If, like me, you’re conflicted about this issue, maybe it’s because we should be.


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: christianity; christians; chuckcolson; cslewis; culture; culturewars; evangelicals; francisschaeffer; hollyweird; hollywood; hollywoodmuck; movies; trevinwax; wax
Good article. I'm an Evangelical Protestant who's watched many movies(including many I shouldn't have, I admit) and thought Wax makes some good points.
1 posted on 01/06/2014 5:20:33 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
I like movies but cringe at language and sex scenes. A good story doesn't need them. I recently discovered a company called Pure Flix. They are starting to have some very good stories.

Trailer at this link. God's Not Dead

2 posted on 01/06/2014 5:39:05 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: ReformationFan

> The church I was baptized in believed it was inappropriate for Christians to go to a movie theater. To this day, my grandparents maintain this standard as a bulwark against worldliness.

Funny you should say that. Just earlier today, My wife was watching the Katie Couric show. I noticed she was parading transexuals that were dressed as wonen, one of which looked and spoke very much like a woman and had already had her sex change. Katie was fawning all over them. It was very obvious that the aim of the show was to potray homosexuality as “normal” and gay persons as being victimized. The MSM seems to be acting on orders to portray them as normal a lot lately not taking into account their hypersexual level of promiscuity and deviancy. A hidden camera visiting several gay bars just for one night would shatter that illusion. Hey there’s an idea for James O’Keefe...: )


3 posted on 01/06/2014 5:41:18 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: ReformationFan
I predicted that when Clinton said one could lie about sex in a court of law and insisted that BJ's were not sex we would see the next generation degrade in sexual mores.

Sure enough we have all kinds of perversion taking place; I mourn for the kids who are entering bondage because of it.

Bill Clinton...one of the worst Presidents.

4 posted on 01/06/2014 5:52:36 PM PST by what's up
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To: ReformationFan

Thanks for posting. Good history he shows of the total isolation, which has merits, and the engagement which of course has its merits for the great commission. Navigating this narrow pass requires, IMO, maturity of faith. It is oh too easy for one young in the faith to excuse themselves for being worldly and too easy for one mature in faith to lean towards the study room and cloister oneself.


5 posted on 01/06/2014 5:53:19 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

I couldn’t figure out how to reply to the original poster so I am just “tacking” on to your post as I wanted to add my experience. My husband and I have been devoted Believers for the last 30 years. Having come from the other side we know all about the world, the flesh, and the devil.
Hollywood has been one of the greatest influence of evil on our culture. Everything about Hollywood magnifies the flesh...from which, as Believers, we are to pick up our cross and die to daily. So what business does a Believer have supporting financially and physically Hollywood?

This is a true story. Up until 4 years ago my husband and I would rent a movie every week end as our treat. Loved Bruce Willis Films and 24. Then Passover 2009, we lost all desire to rent, see or go to a movie...LOST ALL INTEREST. We didn’t pray about it, we weren’t looking for it, it just happened. Some would say we were delivered. We have absolutely NO DESIRE to watch any movie and don’t. So I would conclude if God delivered us from a long time recreational habit, when we didn’t even ask for it, I would say it’s probably something Believers should stay away from.


6 posted on 01/06/2014 6:14:57 PM PST by ladyL
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To: redleghunter

I couldn’t figure out how to reply to the original poster so I am just “tacking” on to your post as I wanted to add my experience. My husband and I have been devoted Believers for the last 30 years. Having come from the other side we know all about the world, the flesh, and the devil.
Hollywood has been one of the greatest influence of evil on our culture. Everything about Hollywood magnifies the flesh...from which, as Believers, we are to pick up our cross and die to daily. So what business does a Believer have supporting financially and physically Hollywood?

This is a true story. Up until 4 years ago my husband and I would rent a movie every week end as our treat. Loved Bruce Willis Films and 24. Then Passover 2009, we lost all desire to rent, see or go to a movie...LOST ALL INTEREST. We didn’t pray about it, we weren’t looking for it, it just happened. Some would say we were delivered. We have absolutely NO DESIRE to watch any movie and don’t. So I would conclude if God delivered us from a long time recreational habit, when we didn’t even ask for it, I would say it’s probably something Believers should stay away from.


7 posted on 01/06/2014 6:15:43 PM PST by ladyL
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To: ReformationFan

I too think he makes some good points, or gets close to making them. I would agree, from what I’ve read about it, that “The Wolf of Wall Street” probably has little of redeeming value to it. But that is the only example he gives. I think if he had mentioned a few more movies (bad or good) it would have fleshed out his point more, as it is it sort of sounds like he doesn’t like that one picture.


8 posted on 01/06/2014 6:19:51 PM PST by jocon307
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To: jsanders2001

I agree that avoiding morning TV and most MSM daytime TV is a good “bulwark against worldliness.”

I think those morning news shows have been a big part of the deterioration in Americans’ ability to think straight.


9 posted on 01/06/2014 6:22:17 PM PST by jocon307
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To: jocon307

Completely agree. I remember walking into my kitchen one morning in a reasonably OK mood when one of those morning shows flashed some story about a lesbian actress and it killed whatever good mood I had at that point. Even if the story was true, I saw no need for it and resented it intruding my life. I always try to leave the TV off in the morning and put on Christian radio instead.


10 posted on 01/06/2014 6:38:19 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Movies began their downward slide in 1968 (some say it was earlier with “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn!) after the death of Bobby Kennedy. In the hysteria to place blame TV shows, comic books, pulp fiction, guns and movies were blamed.

When the dust settled, Tv dumbed down to kid shows, comics changed their formats, pulp fiction changed to less lurid covers.

MOVIES got a pass as they said they would regulate themselves with a RATINGS CODE. G-M-R-X.
Then G-GP-R-X
Then G-PG-PG13-R-NC17.

HOT DIGIDY BOYS! The HAYS code is dead! If you got’em make em!
Movie scenes were reshot to add lots of sex and blood. The most vile plot lines were created. And it has only gotten worse over the years.

Glad I got a large library of 1930s, 40s, 50s, and 1960s movies which are very adult oriented without offending the kids.
Give me a RANDOLPH SCOTT western any day.

Did you know that if you buy a pre-1968 movie from Walmart on line you are required to check a statement that you are aware the movie is UNRATED?


11 posted on 01/06/2014 6:44:49 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Indeed. That’s why when I do “Movie for a Sunday afternoon”, I generally try to pick films I find that were made prior to 1968 and are usually either conservative or at least not strongly anti-conservative.

“Did you know that if you buy a pre-1968 movie from Walmart on line you are required to check a statement that you are aware the movie is UNRATED?”

Did not know that! Of course, a lot of them would include smoking which of course gets today’s libs to have a fit.


12 posted on 01/06/2014 6:54:51 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

“I always try to leave the TV off in the morning...”

It’s a must. I only put it on if there is some weather or other emergency going on. I got in a bad habit some years ago, we had like 3 bad winters in a row and I ended up with the TV on every day. Finally, one spring morning came and I said “wait....I don’t watch this junk” and that was the end of it!

And quite frankly I love TV, I generally have it on all the time (although I’m often ignoring it, like I am now) but those morning “infotainment” shows are just insidious.


13 posted on 01/06/2014 7:14:43 PM PST by jocon307
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To: ReformationFan

***a lot of them would include smoking***

LOL! I’ve been watching Val Lewton movies during the extreme cold. Everyone takes a smoke break in the movies.

Saw DIVEBOMBER not long ago. Everyone in it stopped to discuss their work and light up.


14 posted on 01/06/2014 7:17:17 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Just about every film noir and WWII film are full of smoking. It looks really cool in black and white:
15 posted on 01/06/2014 7:28:33 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
I do not claim to have this all figured out. But one thing I know: our pursuit of holiness must be the mark against which our pursuit of cultural engagement is measured. If, like me, you’re conflicted about this issue, maybe it’s because we should be.

The Bible has all the answers to this very issue… one just needs to go find them and apply them. What I suspect is that sin is so seductive, it becomes a case of people justifying their participation on a variety of grounds.

Psalm 101:2-4 ‘ I will behave myself wisely in a perfect way. O when wilt thou come unto me? I will walk within my house with a perfect heart. I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.’

Psalm 141:4 ‘Incline not my heart to any evil thing, to practise wicked works with men that work iniquity: and let me not eat of their dainties.’

16 posted on 01/06/2014 7:30:19 PM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

17 posted on 01/06/2014 7:30:31 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: hecticskeptic

Indeed.


18 posted on 01/06/2014 7:31:19 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ladyL

I agree, we as believers have little in common with the fleshly worldview. As we mature in our walk with Christ, we continue to toss off the things of the corruptable flesh. Of course this is good news and we should not be shocked given in Romans 8 we are given assurance the Father will conform us to His Son’s Image.

I believe being younger in age the challenges are tougher but as we see in Hebrews 3 we are to encourage one another. We are our brother’s keeper.

I too won’t give my time or money to such movies nor HBO and other R rated (which today borders on porno) movie platforms. I am also very selective of the children movies for my sons.

Hollyweird has moved so far from the times of Ben Hur and King of Kings. There used to be a time you could bring your entire family to the movies. I was born after those golden years.

Good news is Hollywood is featuring a few Bible movies this year. The first will be Son of God which is produced by the Irish couple who produced the History channels The Bible mini series. That should be good. Then Russel Crowe as Noah. I cannot speak for how that will be presented. Then a movie about Moses. Again how much Hollywood keeps to the text is unknown. Maybe they realized people like us have stopped paying to see their blasphemous productions.


19 posted on 01/06/2014 7:45:54 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: ReformationFan

Lots of busybodies out there trying to change the past just end up censoring art.

20 posted on 01/06/2014 7:56:27 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: ReformationFan

Oh yes had one of those moments with CBS 48 hours a few years back and that “news” program was a primetime program. My pre-teen son was doing homework in the kitchen and he could hear the TV in the living room. I was watching the news program before 48 hours, left the room with my wife and younger son to put him to bed. My older son came running in and told me that there was a pregnant “man” on TV. I looked at him with much skepticism and then went to watch what he was talking about. Well what was on TV was a woman who had some form of sex change and 48 hours was selling this as a man pregnant.

So needless to say I had to reassure my son it was really a woman pregnant mot a man and after that the questions became a bit more complex.


21 posted on 01/06/2014 7:58:24 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Liberty Valance

Did you ever see “Thank You For Smoking”? There’s a scene in it where TCM decides to use computer technology to replace cigarettes with candy canes. When the reporter ask if this is changing history, the TCM exec responds along the lines of “I think this is a ‘better’ history.” :?


22 posted on 01/06/2014 7:58:50 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: redleghunter

Terrible that you and your son had to go through that. Then again, it was all part of their plan:

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”


23 posted on 01/06/2014 8:01:53 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: hecticskeptic

Excellent scripture finds.


24 posted on 01/06/2014 8:08:52 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

30s/40s/50s/60s movies? Gee whiz, what have you got against 1920s films?

(I say with tongue-in-cheek, having just watched the Helen Holmes railroad drama, “Webs of Steel” (1925) the other night).


25 posted on 01/06/2014 8:29:14 PM PST by greene66
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To: ReformationFan
I find it hard to imagine the ancient Israelites admiring the artwork on the Asherah poles they were called to tear down. I find it hard to picture the early church fathers attending the games at the Roman coliseum, praising the artistic merits of the arena even as they provide caveats against violence.

Well said. Its a testimony to the degree of demonic possession of Hollywood that nudity, fornication, profanity are obligatory, and Christianity is so zealous against infringing Christian "liberty" that "modesty" now means a little less revealing than the world exhibits now.

Kinda like "conservative" Republicans who are like Democrats were 10 years ago.

26 posted on 01/06/2014 8:45:54 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: greene66

***what have you got against 1920s films?***

I’ve got a few of them.


27 posted on 01/06/2014 8:50:41 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Do you have “The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse”?


28 posted on 01/06/2014 9:08:49 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Alas I don’t! I tried to record it on DVD but the DVD ran out before the end of the movie. Missing bout 15 minutes of the end of the movie.

I do have the later Glen Ford version which does not look anything like the silent version.


29 posted on 01/06/2014 9:23:27 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: ReformationFan

Excellent thread. One of the most edifying that I’ve read a in long time.


30 posted on 01/06/2014 10:24:11 PM PST by This Just In
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To: redleghunter

Well said.


31 posted on 01/06/2014 10:24:55 PM PST by This Just In
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To: ladyL; redleghunter

ladyL said:

” So I would conclude if God delivered us from a long time recreational habit, when we didn’t even ask for it, I would say it’s probably something Believers should stay away from.”

ladyL, I must disagree with you on this point, although I appreciate your devotion and desire to follow the Spirits leading.

To suggest that ALL believers should follow you and your husbands decision is quite presumptuous. The Lord works in His people in different ways. He also communicates with His children in various ways.

redleghunter explain it well when he said, “It is oh too easy for one young in the faith to excuse themselves for being worldly and too easy for one mature in faith to lean towards the study room and cloister oneself.”

If we were to excuse ourselves from the worldly ways, Paul would never have ministered to the Romans on their ground, so to speak.

One of the main reasons our society is at a moral/spiritual crossroads today is as a result of the church and it’s failure to engage the culture on its turf. Don’t misunderstand me. I’m not suggesting that we sin in order to evangelize and share the Gospel. Jesus Christ and the Apostles traveled and shared that Gospel and ministered to the Gentiles and Jews alike without sinning.

Music and film are some of the most affective means of communication and propaganda today. Christians can and should use these tools just as non-Christians do in order to produce that which is beautiful and true. Lest we fail to remember, ALL things beautiful and true come from God. Whether we are producing a film with an evangelical message, or a project which features redemption in the midst of betrayal, pain, and sorrow, it still brings glory to the Lord because there is NO true redemption without Christ.

Our eldest is studying to be a filmmaker. It is his hearts desire to produce quality, edifying, redeeming stories which is lacking in the film industry today. We are also a family of musicians. Some of us have worked in the professional music industry for decades. These two industries are in desperate need of Christians who can share Christs love in places which are devoid of love, mercy, and grace.

ladyL, should my son abandon his dream because you and your husband have no desire to support Hollywood? Should we, and Christian musicians; bestowed with God-given talents, abandon the industry because some of our brothers and sisters in Christ felt led to refrain from supporting these industries? The answer lies with this final anecdote which was told to us recently.

A couple of Saturdays ago we met a man in a music store. We had traveled out of state on a little shopping trip. We discovered that this man actually lives in the area we’re from. He happened to be traveling out of state as well. This gentleman is also a fellow Christian. Our youngest actually worked with him at a soup kitchen. Also my very own spouse actually talked with this man over the phone, but they had never met. They had talked about playing music together because the gentleman is a musician. What are the odds of us meeting at that music store on that day?! With Christ, all things are possible.

During our conversation he (lets just call him Steve), told us about his drummers unexpected death recently. Steve told us that the drummer wasn’t a Christian, but accepted Christ shortly before his death. Steve commented, “I guess that’s why I played in the band with him.”

In other words, Steve was part of this non-Christian band so that he could evangelize to the drummer before he died. I had to fight back tears in that music store after Steve shared with us that touching story.

ladyL, I deeply appreciate your commitment to serve our Lord, and your desire to be faithful. I don’t wish for you to misunderstand where it is that I’m coming from.

We need to engage society, but we must use discernment and wisdom, and be in constant fellowship with the church body, as well as our spiritual leaders for support, guidance, accountability, and encouragement. Keep running the race.


32 posted on 01/06/2014 11:07:41 PM PST by This Just In
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To: ReformationFan

James Taylor - That's Why I'm Here

33 posted on 01/06/2014 11:19:37 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: ReformationFan

I am a Christian who does watch movies. I am not setting myself as an example to follow. If a person completely avoids Hollywood entertainment I don’t think much would be missed.

The standards I apply are probably not as high as they should be, but I do avoid movies that depict immorality graphically and are filled with cursing, especially blasphemy. The degree to which these things are present is proportionate to the delay before I will consider watching them. So I may watch Les Miserables on video (haven’t seen it yet) where I can fast forward through anything I don’t want to watch, but will avoid paying a premium to see it in the theater. Some movies I will not pay for directly even on video but might watch otherwise.

In spite of this I still often feel like I am trying to find a gourmet meal in a dumpster. It’s like dumpster diving for entertainment rather than food.


34 posted on 01/06/2014 11:30:00 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: ladyL

The Bible describes the corrupting influence of Sodom on the righteous man, Lot, through his seeing and hearing. I think many believers tend to underestimate the damaging influence of exposing ourselves to evil on T.V. and in movies.

That being said, your experience is a testimony to fruit that is the outcome of a growing relationship with the Lord. There is a dangerous tendency to try to make the Christian walk into a list of rules. Attempts to outwardly conform to a list of rules will fail or result in a hypocritical life unless it is an outgrowth of the inward reality of our walk with Christ. It may be that other believers will only reach the place where you are by walking the same path to get there.


35 posted on 01/06/2014 11:45:45 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: This Just In

Perhaps it would be better if believers spent more of their time making films, music, art, video games, literature, etc. rather than consuming them.


36 posted on 01/06/2014 11:49:37 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

bump


37 posted on 01/06/2014 11:50:47 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: This Just In

I truly did not mean to be presumptuous but in re reading my post it does come off that way, doesn’t it? Living in Nashville, being part of both the music and religious communities for years, my husband and I decided to get out of the religion business. Saw too much, said too much and grieved Abba’s heart too much. I now leave every man’s relationship with Yahweh to his own private walk. Most definitely, what the Father has shown us about the Kingdom of the world is what we personally must walk in or out of. Everyone will stand alone, one on one for their placement in eternity...may you hear the words, “Well done my good and faithful servant.”


38 posted on 01/07/2014 12:11:16 AM PST by ladyL
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To: ReformationFan

RE: “The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse” 1921 Valentino version

Youtube single file in MP4 format, approximately 333 MB at standard quality:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7I_ltX6-ZY

==

Archive.org has several video formats — Ogg, WMV, MPEG4, and the film is broken into 5 files:

https://archive.org/details/The_Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse

If you are familiar with torrents, the torrent allows you to choose which formats and which sections to download.


39 posted on 01/07/2014 9:22:24 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: This Just In
Music and film are some of the most affective means of communication and propaganda today. Christians can and should use these tools just as non-Christians do in order to produce that which is beautiful and true. Lest we fail to remember, ALL things beautiful and true come from God. Whether we are producing a film with an evangelical message, or a project which features redemption in the midst of betrayal, pain, and sorrow, it still brings glory to the Lord because there is NO true redemption without Christ.

Case in point is the wonderful mini-series on History channel "The Bible." The Irish-English couple Roma Downey and Mark Burnett are Christians and when interviewed you can just see their love for the Lord. I have seen them in hostile interviews making the secular host look like a cad because they expressed their love for Christ and the Bible.

As I mentioned up thread, the couple slightly modified the mini series in a feature movie called Son of God which will be in theatres before Passover and Resurrection Day.

40 posted on 01/07/2014 9:35:46 AM PST by redleghunter
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To: unlearner
In spite of this I still often feel like I am trying to find a gourmet meal in a dumpster. It’s like dumpster diving for entertainment rather than food.

Well depicted indeed. I don't know your age, but think of the challenges our young face being bombarded with the dumpster culture (I might have to use that term now, thanks). There are very good Christian films out there if you have not already downloaded, rented etc. one. The family loved Facing the Giants. I highly recommend Fire Proof for married or engaged couples.

41 posted on 01/07/2014 10:09:13 AM PST by redleghunter
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I really like all of the Sherwood Pictures films, and there are a small but growing number of other good family and faith friendly films as well. Unfortunately these are the exception rather than the rule.


42 posted on 01/07/2014 10:19:58 AM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: ladyL

I would like to mention that I did not find your post offensive in any way. I support your convictions regarding the decision you and your husband have made in abstaining from viewing films.

Incidentally, we had planned on moving to Nashville just a few months ago in order to establish ourselves in the music industry. Our youngest is an aspiring singer/songwriter/multi-instrumentalist. As I have mentioned; we’ve worked in the industry for a long time.

Due to some unforeseen issues, we had to cancel our move.

Thank you for your comments.

TJI


43 posted on 01/07/2014 3:01:03 PM PST by This Just In
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To: redleghunter

We haven’t seen the mini-series yet.


44 posted on 01/07/2014 8:57:00 PM PST by This Just In
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To: unlearner

I agree, but for those who do not possess the talent to produce film or music, there are projects out there that are worth listening to and/or viewing. Grant it, there are far more films and music that are absolutely worthless, but if you search deep enough you’ll find some gems. Here are just a short list of films and music we enjoy:

Film-

I Am David
Bella
The Chronicles of Narnia
The Lord of The Rings
The Hobbit
Pride and Prejudice (BBC series)
David Copperfield (BBC production)
Pickwick Papers (BBC production)

Music-

Steven Curtis Chapman
Nichole Nordeman
Crystal Lewis
Newsboys
most classical recordings
chamber music
Yoyo Ma
Victor Borge


45 posted on 01/07/2014 9:07:13 PM PST by This Just In
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Recommend you do. I give the OT stories 3 out of 5 stars. NT portion 5 out of 5.


46 posted on 01/07/2014 9:09:36 PM PST by redleghunter
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The original Manchurian Candidate with Angela Lansbury and Frank Sinatra was very good.


47 posted on 01/07/2014 9:11:37 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: TomGuy

Thanks for the links!


48 posted on 01/08/2014 6:22:35 AM PST by ReformationFan
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Another image I liked- Gene Tierney has to have been one of the beautiful women in Hollywood history IMHO.
49 posted on 01/08/2014 6:48:26 PM PST by ReformationFan
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