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To: DouglasKC

Christ instituted the Eucharist at the Last Supper.

So what about Baptism?

When did he breathe on the Apostles, giving them the Holy Spirit and giving them power to forgive sins?

We all know that Confirmation is connected with the coming of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, so do you have Confirmation?

What about the Anointing of the Sick? Jesus healed a lot of people through prayer and touch.

When is the Sacrament of Marriage edified by Christ? Think of the Wedding of Cana.

When did he ordain the Apostles, thus instituting the Sacrament of Holy Orders?


39 posted on 01/08/2014 7:26:50 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; All

“Christ instituted the Eucharist at the Last Supper.”


To help you translate his answer. The UCG does not believe in the Eucharist at the Last Supper, in any sense, nor even in a Lord’s Supper. They believe that the “Lord’s Supper” is in fact the Passover, which is celebrated once annually. This they believe, despite the fact that it was actually, hsitorically, celebrated everyday:

“I promised you [new Christians], who have now been baptized, a sermon in which I would explain the sacrament of the Lord’s Table, which you now look upon and of which you last night were made participants. You ought to know that you have received, what you are going to receive, and what you ought to receive daily. That bread which you see on the altar, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the Body of Christ. That chalice, or rather, what is in that chalice, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the Blood of Christ” (Augustine, Sermons 227 [A.D. 411]).

The UCG teaches that we are bound to the Jewish feast days, a total of 7 per year:

“We believe in the commanded observance of the seven annual Holy Days given to ancient Israel by God and kept by Jesus Christ, the apostles and the New Testament Church.”

http://www.ucg.org/fundamental-beliefs-info/

“So what about Baptism?”


The UCG believes that baptism is through immersion and is necessary for salvation, and that the Holy Spirit is transmitted through the laying on of hands by UCG’s ministers. IOW, if you are not baptized and have hands laid on you by the UCG, you are not in “God’s Family.”


40 posted on 01/08/2014 7:43:06 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Salvation

I thought that Christ insituted the sacrament of baptism on the day He got baptized and His Heavenly Father spoke to Him right after that.


43 posted on 01/09/2014 3:20:07 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Salvation
Christ instituted the Eucharist at the Last Supper.

What tradition now refers to as "the last supper" occurred on Passover, one of the Lord Jesus Christ's commanded assemblies as shown in Leviticus:

Lev 23:4 'These are the feasts of the LORD, holy convocations which you shall proclaim at their appointed times.
Lev 23:5 On the fourteenth day of the first month at twilight is the LORD's Passover.

So what about Baptism?

There is a massive amount of new testament scripture that shows that baptism is what Christians do and are expected to do in response to the calling of the Lord. For example when after being convicted that Christ was Lord some asked "What doe we do now?":

Act_2:38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

The book of Hebrews affirms absolutely that baptism is a fundamental, foundational belief and practice of Christians:

Heb 6:1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

When did he breathe on the Apostles, giving them the Holy Spirit and giving them power to forgive sins?

There's probably a few places we'll depart on belief here. He breathed the spirit on the disciples shortly after his resurrection and the received the indwelling on Pentecost.

You'll have to clarify that statement about forgiving sins. We all have the power to forgive those who sin against us. Is that what you mean?

We all know that Confirmation is connected with the coming of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, so do you have Confirmation?

I observe the day of Pentecost which is the day that the holy spirit came. I observe it as the formation of his church and with the great appreciation and recognition that the holy spirit has in the life of Christians.

What about the Anointing of the Sick? Jesus healed a lot of people through prayer and touch.

Certainly. This was a standard practice and well documented biblically. Again it's standard, foundational part of Christianity as outlined in scripture.

When is the Sacrament of Marriage edified by Christ? Think of the Wedding of Cana.

Marriage is affirmed by Christ throughout scripture. Not only in the wedding at Cana but marriage is the representation of Christ and the church.

When did he ordain the Apostles, thus instituting the Sacrament of Holy Orders?

Making exceptions for the terminology this occurs here:

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
Mat 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.

Thank you for your courteous response. It was a pleasure to spend time in study and I'm looking forward to learning more about you.

45 posted on 01/09/2014 10:11:21 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Salvation
>> “Christ instituted the Eucharist at the Last Supper” <<

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Actually, Yeshua instituted a commandment that each and every time we have bread and wine, we do so in remembrance of him.

[24] And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
[25] After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

124 posted on 01/11/2014 10:28:37 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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