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To: matthewrobertolson

Notice that the Pope is not kneeling before a picture because he’s holding Jesus’ foot in his hand.

How could Pope Alexander VI be kneeling before the Christ Child when there could be no pope before Jesus was old enough to create the Catholic church?


7 posted on 01/11/2014 7:28:28 AM PST by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY.)
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To: kitkat

It’s a symbolic, not literal, piece. :)


11 posted on 01/11/2014 9:37:27 AM PST by matthewrobertolson
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To: kitkat

“How could Pope Alexander VI be kneeling before the Christ Child when there could be no pope before Jesus was old enough to create the Catholic church?”

Simple. That sort of painting was very common in the late Middle Ages and Early Modern Period. The purpose is to show the person’s devotion to Christ.

Here’s another example: http://norbertinevocations.wordpress.com/

People back then instantaneously knew what was going on in the painting. They simply understood the point and purpose of Christian art better than so-called Christians today. They, for instance, had no problem understanding how Christ could be portrayed as High Priest and Sacrificial Victim in the very same panel: https://www.google.com/search?q=christ+giving+birth+to+ecclesia&hl=en&qscrl=1&rlz=1T4ADRA_enUS418US418&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=VYLRUqGFO4blsASo34CwDA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1093&bih=453#facrc=_&imgrc=Yo5ZKsN8FsnvEM%253A%3BiU-iHUlDo9_AzM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F2.bp.blogspot.com%252F-JsKxmhp7VvI%252FT39Do7SDy7I%252FAAAAAAAAE6I%252FuUKZeJXxIXA%252Fs1600%252Fwound-birth.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fdeus-ex-machina-secundus.blogspot.com%252F%3B396%3B373

They also had no difficulty understanding that Christ was giving birth to His bride, the Church, in that illuminated image - especially when it was coupled with this image of Eve being drawn from Adam’s in the same book: https://www.google.com/search?q=christ+giving+birth+to+ecclesia+bible+moralisee&hl=en&qscrl=1&rlz=1T4ADRA_enUS418US418&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=xYLRUvMz5qGxBPDBgfAN&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1093&bih=453#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=qDBfYwRZMWXDbM%253A%3BVsyveILS5xWdcM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fhome.comcast.net%252F~fraterholme%252Fimages%252FBible_Moralisee.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fhome.comcast.net%252F~fraterholme%252Futerochrist.html%3B366%3B749


12 posted on 01/11/2014 9:43:51 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: kitkat

That is not the actual baby Jesus; that is a model used for the painting.


13 posted on 01/11/2014 10:46:08 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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