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Why Men Have Stopped Singing in Church
Patheos ^ | May 8, 2013 | David Murrow

Posted on 01/11/2014 8:08:33 PM PST by Benito Cereno

It happened again yesterday. I was attending one of those hip, contemporary churches — and almost no one sang. Worshippers stood obediently as the band rocked out, the smoke machine belched and lights flashed. Lyrics were projected on the screen, but almost no one sang them. A few women were trying, but I saw only one male (other than the worship leader) making the attempt.

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I have noticed this in my home church and in myself. Personally, I really dislike much of the modern worship music, which is heavy on repetition and light on content. An old hymn, such as It is Well With My Soul, packs an entire sermon into four verses and a chorus. Today's music seems content with one or two harmless, and ultimately meaningless, verses with a seven word chorus that repeats a dozen times. Worship bands also play at an exceedingly high volume, so even if I were to sing I wouldn't be able to hear myself. They are also tuning at such a high pitch that there is no way I can sing along. So, I'll go to church tomorrow morning and stand when everyone stands, but you'll more than likely see me mouthing the words or standing there with my hands in my pockets, waiting for the band to throw me a bone by singing Blessed Assurance or Come Thou Fount once a month.
1 posted on 01/11/2014 8:08:33 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: Benito Cereno

you want to sing. get thee to a church of Christ


2 posted on 01/11/2014 8:10:53 PM PST by 1riot1ranger (OMG!!! ObamaMustGo!)
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To: Benito Cereno
An old hymn, such as It is Well With My Soul, packs an entire sermon into four verses and a chorus. Today's music seems content with one or two harmless, and ultimately meaningless, verses with a seven word chorus that repeats a dozen times. Worship bands also play at an exceedingly high volume, so even if I were to sing I wouldn't be able to hear myself. They are also tuning at such a high pitch that there is no way I can sing along.

Agreed on all points!

3 posted on 01/11/2014 8:12:59 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Benito Cereno

Good points. That’s why our church sings a Capella.


4 posted on 01/11/2014 8:13:33 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Benito Cereno
Worshippers stood obediently as the band rocked out, the smoke machine belched and lights flashed.

Smoke machines and flashing lights at a worship service? Really? No one singing as part of worship? This does not sound like a Christian church to me.

5 posted on 01/11/2014 8:15:45 PM PST by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: Benito Cereno

Bring a vuvuzela next time!


6 posted on 01/11/2014 8:16:59 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

lol


7 posted on 01/11/2014 8:18:08 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

It’ll certainly wake up all those sleeping in the pews and motivate them to sing.


8 posted on 01/11/2014 8:18:43 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Benito Cereno

EXACTLY!! The banal ditties and rock n roll performances only appeal to a few - and perhaps to the musicians. They are repetitious and stupid. It is Well With My Soul - now there’s meat and potatoes, served with reverence to the Lord.

I used to look around the congregation at our last church - a huge mega-church, and see these wonderful men, rocks of the community - silent. They are not going to rock and roll with the 25 year olds. It is not dignified, it is not them. They have come to honor the Lord, not to relive their youth.

We go to the no-music mass, only.


9 posted on 01/11/2014 8:18:44 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Benito Cereno
Hobgoblin nor foul fiend Can daunt his spirit, He knows he at the end Shall life inherit. Then fancies fly away, He’ll fear not what men say, He’ll labor night and day To be a pilgrim.

This will suit on any a Sunday (He Who Would Valiant Be)

10 posted on 01/11/2014 8:19:06 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Benito Cereno

EXACTLY!! The banal ditties and rock n roll performances only appeal to a few - and perhaps to the musicians. They are repetitious and stupid. It is Well With My Soul - now there’s meat and potatoes, served with reverence to the Lord.

I used to look around the congregation at our last church - a huge mega-church, and see these wonderful men, rocks of the community - silent. They are not going to rock and roll with the 25 year olds. It is not dignified, it is not them. They have come to honor the Lord, not to relive their youth.

We go to the no-music mass, only.


11 posted on 01/11/2014 8:19:25 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: bboop

I hate loud, rock-ish music


12 posted on 01/11/2014 8:19:42 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Benito Cereno

Except, perhaps, for Peter Paul & Mary singing ‘Puff the Magic Dragon’, you aren’t supposed to sing along at an entertainment performance. So those that remain silent are probably correct.

If you want to sing along, you probably should go to a worship service, not a concert (interrupted by a brief ‘feel good’ message.)


13 posted on 01/11/2014 8:19:54 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Benito Cereno

Our music at my church is getting more reverent and, yes, the men do sing!


14 posted on 01/11/2014 8:22:01 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Fzob
Smoke machines and flashing lights at a worship service?

You've never been to Superfun Rock Band Church?

15 posted on 01/11/2014 8:22:52 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Bring a vuvuzela next time!

That will wake everyone up! Yikes.

16 posted on 01/11/2014 8:23:29 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Fzob

No kidding...I remember getting kicked out of Sunday School for attempting to lead the class in a few verses of “Sink the Bismarck”. Well, it was working out well for Johnny Horton at the time...


17 posted on 01/11/2014 8:23:50 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Salvation

“getting more reverent”?

Curious as to what it took to get some change.


18 posted on 01/11/2014 8:24:24 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: Benito Cereno

The men sing at our church. In fact, everyone sings. And the band is fairly loud. At least half the songs are hymns.


19 posted on 01/11/2014 8:26:46 PM PST by liege (America 180)
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To: PAR35

Many of our congregation listen to Christian music stations, so they like it when we sing some of the new songs. It is good to sing what we hear on the radio (we all did that in college!) However, this can be taken too far. It is good to introduce new music “before” the service for a couple of weeks. Singing is the most effective way most of us Praise God, so it is vital that all participate.


20 posted on 01/11/2014 8:28:48 PM PST by impactplayer
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To: Benito Cereno

My choir director calls most worship music ‘7-11’ songs: seven lines repeated eleven times!


21 posted on 01/11/2014 8:31:09 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: Benito Cereno

Interesting, had noticed a drop in congregational singing as well, which I find quite sad. Singing praise songs together is a much more wonderful thing than simply listening to them sung. The quality of the music is not as important as everybody just singing however well they were meant to sing in praise of God.


22 posted on 01/11/2014 8:32:23 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: GeronL
"I hate loud, rock-ish music"

Hehehehehe...I love loud, rockin' music. But not in Church. I never sing hymns, anyway.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

23 posted on 01/11/2014 8:35:40 PM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: Benito Cereno
I attend a country church that has a congregation averaging 25-30 people a Sunday. Although I quit smoking 18 months ago, 30 years of almost two packs a day pretty much shredded my vocal cords, so I can't hide it in that small of a crowd.


24 posted on 01/11/2014 8:36:46 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: AndyTheBear

I agree completely. It’s not a recording studio, it’s a house of worship. Let the people’s voices rise to the heavens!


25 posted on 01/11/2014 8:38:13 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: Benito Cereno

My church, well everyone sings. I think the problem may be reliance on Praise Teams rather than a choir.

Choirs inspire people to sing and boy do they. Several visiting pastors have commented on it.
Choirs rule.....


26 posted on 01/11/2014 8:38:35 PM PST by buffaloguy
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To: Benito Cereno

I have often wondered if the Good Lord has to shield his eyes when he looks at a “contemporary service” or a megachurch with 25,000 members.


27 posted on 01/11/2014 8:39:33 PM PST by upchuck (My Internet addiction is so bad... it's alt of ctrl.)
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To: Viking2002
Although I quit smoking 18 months ago...

Congratulations!!! Way to go.

28 posted on 01/11/2014 8:42:21 PM PST by upchuck (My Internet addiction is so bad... it's alt of ctrl.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

And video the scene.

I’ll donate $10.00 to the charity of your choice if you post it on FR.


29 posted on 01/11/2014 8:42:25 PM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: upchuck

I love this, as it speaks directly to the point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RJBd8zE48A


30 posted on 01/11/2014 8:42:26 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: Benito Cereno

Ping singing in church


31 posted on 01/11/2014 8:42:30 PM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: Benito Cereno

A change in the music director. He retired. And the newly hired person is of very classical and orthodox views. I’m so glad we are getting some chant back.

And not the sing-songy stuff that is in the OCP book.


32 posted on 01/11/2014 8:44:20 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Benito Cereno

We also have a new Archbishop who is very up on music. One of the first things he did was charge OCP with putting out Catholic art on the covers, and including more chant in the music section.


33 posted on 01/11/2014 8:45:29 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: GeronL

My 19 year old daughter loves loud rock.

Except in church. She demands Hymns and an organ.

Oh, she sings Italian opera. When not jamming with a garage band that is.


34 posted on 01/11/2014 8:45:33 PM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Seven-Eleven songs are seven WORDS repeated eleven times.


35 posted on 01/11/2014 8:47:03 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: upchuck
Thanks. It took patches and e-cigs to keep on the path, but when my doctor told me that I had a choice of either quitting that day, or start losing my left foot one toe at a time a year later, I opted to keep all of my digits.


36 posted on 01/11/2014 8:47:38 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: Gamecock

If it was within driving distance of me I’d do it. But if I was to do something like this it wouldn’t just be one vuvuzela but a whole group of them. Think of it like an ImprovEverywhere public prank but with a good purpose.

Didn’t the Temple in Jerusalem have priests who blew silver trumpets?

There ya go! Old, old school rules!


37 posted on 01/11/2014 8:47:52 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Benito Cereno

Why do you attend this church? It doesn’t sound as if you like the church. I’d find a true church home if I was you. I can’t stand mega-churches and new wave churches


38 posted on 01/11/2014 8:51:59 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Benito Cereno

What a stupid article. As long as the congregants are focused on the worship of God in the music, who cares whether they sing or not?

I’ve been equally moved in church by singing traditional hymns myself as well as celebrating God in the beautiful music/voices of others.


39 posted on 01/11/2014 8:52:08 PM PST by WeatherGuy
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To: Benito Cereno

As a former Shoutin’ Methodist, I find this hard to accept....


40 posted on 01/11/2014 8:54:09 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Benito Cereno

A lot of modernist churches are attempting to draw young people in with bands and such. I love some Christian rock and electronic bands I listen to, but I would not want them to perform in my church. Just a perspective I guess.


41 posted on 01/11/2014 8:54:18 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: bigbob

We hit the decks a runnin, and we turn the guns around.


42 posted on 01/11/2014 8:56:15 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: bigbob

We hit the decks a runnin, and we turned the guns around.


43 posted on 01/11/2014 8:56:26 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: WeatherGuy

Yeah, but it’s kind of sad that people don’t feel led to “worship”/sing, that’s all. I’ve noticed this myself. I think it’s the music and the band. The band’s too loud most of the time, to hear yourself think, and the music is indeed not very good either. When I first became a Christian (in the 70’s), the music was so awesome; as well, there’s nothing like joining in a large chorus of voices singing to God.


44 posted on 01/11/2014 8:56:59 PM PST by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Good description.


45 posted on 01/11/2014 8:58:22 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: GeronL

Went to Seattle this summer to see newborn grandchild. We carried the 2 week old child into church that was so loud my wife and I could not talk to each other. Thankfully Mom took the child out. This continued for 40 minutes. I still get mad when I think about it. I categorized it as an assault on the congregation. It was self serving and not God honoring.


46 posted on 01/11/2014 9:01:54 PM PST by taterjay
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Nailed it. Problem is that the wife and kids are fired up about this church's young adult programs, and it is where all of their friends go to church.

47 posted on 01/11/2014 9:02:54 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: taterjay

bump!

I think I would have walked out too.


48 posted on 01/11/2014 9:06:20 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Benito Cereno

Please - find a new church with scripture-based songs. Worship is THE reason we Christians go to church — much has been written on proper worship over the centuries.

I could never tolerate not hearing the voices of my husband, my children, and those around me.

We attend a PCA church — can you find one nearby?


49 posted on 01/11/2014 9:08:25 PM PST by agrarianlady
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To: Benito Cereno; 1riot1ranger; Alex Murphy

A Mighty Fortress
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRJHKzU_t1M


50 posted on 01/11/2014 9:14:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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