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Joel Osteen Says Homosexuality is 'a Sin' but Won't 'Preach' on It
NewsMax ^ | 14 Jan 2014 | Courtney Coren

Posted on 01/14/2014 9:38:12 AM PST by Gamecock

Televangelist Joel Osteen says homosexuality is a sin but he doesn't "preach" about it and isn't against "anybody" who is gay.

"I believe that scripture says that it's a sin but I always follow up by saying you know what, we're not against anybody," he added.

"There's a lot of things, Larry, and I don't understand — so I just don't want to preach on it, preach about it," Osteen replied.

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TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: homosexuality; megachurch; osteen; sin; televangelists
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1 posted on 01/14/2014 9:38:12 AM PST by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

I guess being politically incorrect is a greater sin.


2 posted on 01/14/2014 9:39:29 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Gamecock
abortion is murder and murder is a sin...but it's okay...

Wow...what a premise...do anything you want....

3 posted on 01/14/2014 9:39:29 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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4 posted on 01/14/2014 9:39:37 AM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: Huskrrrr

Amen to that. The problem with Feel Good religion is that when everyone feels good and doesn’t have their feelings hurt, they aren’t being taught that there is a wrong and a right.


5 posted on 01/14/2014 9:40:51 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Gamecock
[Larry King] asked how homosexuality can be called a sin, "if we don't know what causes it. You don't know why you're a heterosexual," he added. "There's a lot of things, Larry, and I don't understand — so I just don't want to preach on it, preach about it," Osteen replied.

What the what?

6 posted on 01/14/2014 9:41:15 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Gamecock

Can anyone imagine Jesus’ disciples refusing to preach about sin?


7 posted on 01/14/2014 9:41:43 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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2 Timothy 4:2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching....Unless you are Joel Osteen, then you can do what you want.
8 posted on 01/14/2014 9:42:14 AM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: Gamecock

Lol

What a turd

Guess he figures some might pony upbtobhis coffers


9 posted on 01/14/2014 9:43:01 AM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructede today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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To: Gamecock

My nephew has a fast growing church (Bible believing Spirt filled), about three miles from JO ‘church’.
He told me about half their growth are families leaving that church looking for Biblical teaching.


10 posted on 01/14/2014 9:44:11 AM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: Gamecock

Looks like Joel has decided which pages he will believe and which he doesn’t.
Pray America is Waking


11 posted on 01/14/2014 9:44:31 AM PST by bray ("The Republic of Texas 2022" is coming in Feb)
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To: Alex Murphy

There’s no sense in making people feel bad about themselves. Sure it’s wrong but just remember God loves us just the way we are. That’s why we are going through that BIG WIDE gate instead of that narrow winding one that is more difficult.


12 posted on 01/14/2014 9:46:10 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: Gamecock

You know it.


13 posted on 01/14/2014 9:46:40 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Gamecock

Isn’t this the same guy who said he wasn’t sure if Jesus was the one and only way to Heaven?

Why do people listen to him?


14 posted on 01/14/2014 9:46:43 AM PST by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: Gamecock

“Osteen was then asked if gay marriage annoys him.”

“It doesn’t annoy me,”

How in this world can a person who is a Christian say that Gay Marriage does Not annoy him?

That is just so unbelievable.


15 posted on 01/14/2014 9:47:14 AM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: Gamecock

Coward.


16 posted on 01/14/2014 9:48:35 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Gamecock
victoria osteen photo: VICTORIA OSTEEN'S abc_gma_osteen_edit_071016_mn.jpg

Keeping Vicky flying 1st class ain't cheap.

17 posted on 01/14/2014 9:49:01 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

Lol. True that.


18 posted on 01/14/2014 9:50:02 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: BipolarBob

Didn’t the Bible say something about camels through the eye of a needle.


19 posted on 01/14/2014 9:50:25 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Gamecock

So he is admitting he only preaches part of the truth, not all of it. Shame on him. Shame. Shame.


20 posted on 01/14/2014 9:50:43 AM PST by tioga (Wise men still seek Him.)
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To: bray

In my reading of The Word I found that homosexuality was described as ‘an abomination before God’. While not specifically calling it a sin in that passage, it seems pretty clear that God didn’t intend for ‘it’ to happen. If He had procreation would have been made possible via the act.

So, just to be safe, I’m going to believe that it is a sin. Don’t you know He sits in Heaven and just shakes His head at the actions of some. Thinking, “I thought I made it pretty clear how things are supposed to work...”


21 posted on 01/14/2014 9:51:10 AM PST by RonInNaples
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To: Huskrrrr
II Corinthians 4:3-5 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

In whom the God of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

22 posted on 01/14/2014 9:51:36 AM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Oliviaforever

And yet there are those here who post his worthless devotionals and ask for no confrontations. He is a false teacher, period.


23 posted on 01/14/2014 9:51:43 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Gamecock

If he believes it’s a sin then he must also acknowledge that engaging in the behavior without repentence will consign someone to hell. That’s what the bible says. Thus, keeping quite about it only benefits Joel (financially) all the expense of those he purports to love. His decision is based purely on self-interest.


24 posted on 01/14/2014 9:53:05 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Gamecock

Reminds me of Billy Graham taking a pass on Bubba”s infidelity...sad.


25 posted on 01/14/2014 9:53:56 AM PST by matginzac
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To: Alex Murphy
The Osteen/Lakewood Creed

This is my Bible.
I am what it says I am.
I have what it says I have.
I can do what it says I can do.
Today I will be taught the Word of God. (Except for the parts dealing with homosexuality)
I boldly meekly confess.
My mind is alert.
My heart is receptive. (Except to homosexual being sinful)
I will never be the same.
I am about to receive the incorruptible, indestructible ever-living seed of the Word of God. (Except the part about homosexuality being sinful.)
I will never be the same.
Never, never, never. (What is this, a Taylor Swift Song? )
I’ll never be the same.
In Jesus’ name. God bless you and you may be seated.

26 posted on 01/14/2014 9:57:04 AM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: Gamecock

Also, this just in, won’t preach on “Mammon”


27 posted on 01/14/2014 9:57:18 AM PST by BereanBrain
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To: Snickering Hound

Now there are some preachers on TV,
With a suit and a tie and a vest,
They want you to send your money to the Lord,
But they give you their address,
‘Cause all of your donations are completely tax free,
God Bless you all but most of all send your money,

Hank Williams Jr - American Dream Lyrics


28 posted on 01/14/2014 9:58:09 AM PST by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: Gamecock
Televangelist Joel Osteen says homosexuality murder is a sin but he doesn't "preach" about it and isn't against "anybody" who is gay murders.
"I believe that scripture says that it's a sin but I always follow up by saying you know what, we're not against anybody," he added.
"There's a lot of things, Larry, and I don't understand — so I just don't want to preach on it, preach about it," Osteen replied.

Televangelist Joel Osteen says homosexuality rape is a sin but he doesn't "preach" about it and isn't against "anybody" who is gay rapes. "I believe that scripture says that it's a sin but I always follow up by saying you know what, we're not against anybody," he added. "There's a lot of things, Larry, and I don't understand — so I just don't want to preach on it, preach about it," Osteen replied.

Televangelist Joel Osteen says homosexuality _______ (fill in the blank) is a sin but he doesn't "preach" about it and isn't against "anybody" who is gay_______(fill in the blank). "I believe that scripture says that it's a sin but I always follow up by saying you know what, we're not against anybody," he added. "There's a lot of things, Larry, and I don't understand — so I just don't want to preach on it, preach about it," Osteen replied.

29 posted on 01/14/2014 9:58:27 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Alex Murphy

We don’t know what causes pedophilia, necrophilia, or whatever attracts men to sheep, but none of the above is going to result in a human birth.

Homosexuality is an inversion of the miracle of reproduction, and a subversion of the nuclear family. Mom’s can’t do what dad’s are supposed to do, and vice versa. You can argue all day about pinch hitting in those roles, but at the end of the day, my daughter isn’t blocking out time on her calendar to go bra shopping with Pop.

The problem we have now with this issue is that even proposing any sort of scientific inquiry as to what DOES cause homosexuality is now out of the question. Same is true with pedophilia as well, because if the research suggests any sort of link between the two and the lavender mafia will go after your family.

It’s why Larry’s question is unfair.

Anybody caught trying to actually use science to explain homosexuality is going to meet with, at the very least, no funding, and at most, death threats.


30 posted on 01/14/2014 9:59:24 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Gamecock

Gee... MY Bible says it is an ABOMINATION unto GOD, Joel. Funny that I know what GOD says about it and you seem not to.


31 posted on 01/14/2014 10:00:18 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Thorliveshere

“Why do people listen to him?”

Because he tells them what they want to hear.


32 posted on 01/14/2014 10:01:35 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Gamecock

KUMBAYA MY LORD, KUMBAYA.

33 posted on 01/14/2014 10:02:25 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Thorliveshere

Why is there a Joel Osteen devotional thread on FR?

I dunno.


34 posted on 01/14/2014 10:02:57 AM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: Oliviaforever

“How in this world can a person who is a Christian say that Gay Marriage does Not annoy him?

That is just so unbelievable.”

Because you’re giving power to the sin and letting it control your life by just “being annoyed.”

I don’t follow Joel too much, but what I think he’s saying is not to elevate the sins of a person or persons above other people’s sins, which is all people. That doesn’t mean of course that sin should be promoted as being acceptable.

Gay Marriage for example is now being widely promoted by many in society as being acceptable, so it should be confronted, not accepted.


35 posted on 01/14/2014 10:04:57 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: Gamecock
I'm glad to hear him finally admit.

People's views on homosexuality often center on compassion for the person suffering the perversion.

However, millions of women and children suffer from the lack of male leadership; that's where the attention should be focused.

36 posted on 01/14/2014 10:05:08 AM PST by what's up
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To: Snickering Hound
Keeping Vicky flying 1st class ain't cheap.

This.

37 posted on 01/14/2014 10:05:11 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: svcw

If they want Biblical teaching they should start studying Rabbi Lapin’s stuff.

http://www.rabbidaniellapin.com/

It’ll give them a good foundational understanding for their faith.


38 posted on 01/14/2014 10:06:50 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Gamecock

“Thou shalt not murder,” but you know Larry, I just don’t understand murder and so I just refuse to preach on it because I don’t want murderers in my congregation to feel bad, so I simply refuse to go there.


39 posted on 01/14/2014 10:08:35 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: RonInNaples

The word translated as ‘abomination’ should be interpreted as ‘clear and present danger.’


40 posted on 01/14/2014 10:09:06 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Gamecock
Where did Joel have to go to find Larry King?

Joel sure enjoys his camera time.

41 posted on 01/14/2014 10:09:59 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: RckyRaCoCo; Snickering Hound

Lawyers aren’t cheap either.


42 posted on 01/14/2014 10:11:53 AM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: RonInNaples

The abomination means that it is not just a sin but a great sin that is deceiving in nature and can be easily spread. It is a thing to be abhorred and shunned. For a preacher, priest or rabbi to not preach about the sin of homosexuality is a stain on their soul. They will be called into account for this dereliction.


43 posted on 01/14/2014 10:15:47 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: Gamecock

Can’t keep up the mortgage payments on a basketball arena if GLAAD and GLSEN launch boycotts on ya, I guess.


44 posted on 01/14/2014 10:25:16 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Gamecock

Osteen: Just another Charlatan “preacher” who found God only as a vehicle to get to the bank!!


45 posted on 01/14/2014 10:25:47 AM PST by Froggie
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To: Alex Murphy

Larry King is right sort of. Homosexual attractions are no more sins than heterosexual ones. What are sins are acting out homosexual attractions or those attractions to fornication, child abuse and adultery to name a few. Another sin is to celebrate and approve of those acts. A further sin is to condemn the person who engages in the acts.

Hate the sin and love the sinner preacherman


46 posted on 01/14/2014 10:28:25 AM PST by amihow
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To: Gamecock

No real Sky-pilot. Just another earthbound fence-rider.


47 posted on 01/14/2014 11:00:45 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I always like him when I see him on someones show.


48 posted on 01/14/2014 11:08:45 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Gamecock

Many of his followers are likely to be divorcd and remarried—he will probably avoid pounding the pulpit on adultery too. It’s all about the money.


49 posted on 01/14/2014 11:10:20 AM PST by Burkean (.)
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To: Snickering Hound

I maintain that something similar is what “infects” our elected congressmen when they get to DC.

Their wives like being invited to the cocktail circuit,
and if the congressmen vote the wrong way too much,
or challenge the wrong people,

the wives don’t get invited anymore.


50 posted on 01/14/2014 11:13:37 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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