Skip to comments.My Wife and I are Atheists, but Our Daughter Wants to be Baptised Catholic
Posted on 01/14/2014 8:25:45 PM PST by marshmallow
I'm proud of my daughter, but I can't deny that she stopped us in our religiously disinterested, bleeding-heart liberal tracks
For decades, god and religion have played no part in my life. I was baptised as a baby, but didn't make it as far as first communion. That may officially make me a Catholic in the broadest sense, but if it does, I'm one who's not so much "lapsed" as "stalled before I started".
Apart from morning assemblies and weekly hymn practices at primary school, followed by a couple of years of religious education classes at comprehensive (which I dropped as soon as exam options allowed), I have barely considered my immortal soul, much less the direction it may be heading when I die.
Over the years, when I bothered to think about it at all, I came to the conclusion that I prefer the scientific theory of life and the universe to the spiritual one. I'm most likely an atheist, but one leaning to the agnostic side of the spectrum. I know I'm a sceptic, in the true sense of the word. Or shallow. One of the two.
(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...
I always think these Guardian CiF stories are made up. They are always too glib, too perfect, too pat. This fits right in the mold.
They NEED to believe that people who believe in God necessarily oppose science — that science and religion are mutually exclusive. It makes them feel superior, because a lot of science is provable. Therefore, they’re clearly right and obviously intelligent — and believers in God are clearly wrong and laughably stupid.
So they don't have anything to teach their child. (Dt. 6:7)
Their sin is visited on the next generation. (Ex. 20:5)
. Pray that someone who knows the gospel will tell them all God's plan for them:
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are Gods workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do."
Funny that Darwin steals his ‘breathed’ metaphor straight from Genesis 2:7 and John 20:22.
God Bless the daugther. May she become a bright shinning light for her parents.
I'm curious. Where does the author believe there is a conflict?
sounds like this lapsed cradle Catholic is innately leary of atheism and covers the options with “the God of Spinoza”
Oh, yes I do.
Irresistible grace. It doesn’t matter who your parents are, if you are elect you will believe.
I wonder about that at our own. It’s VERY diverse, hardly stereotypical. Makes me concerned some parents aren’t that Christian.
Most service books indicate when to sit stand and kneel, too.
Sounds like the child has more brains than her parents— sort of reminds me of the story of William Murray the son of that now dead (done in by her own kind) atheist Madalyn Murray-OHair.
Good for your daughter.
Michael Sullivan: Michael(his son) could.
--The Road to Perdition
The parents did the right thing. They let an educated kid make a decision for themselves after they experienced enough life to make that decision. They didn’t brainwash their child.
Bring on the flames but admit something to yourself. Every Christian on this probably holds a poor view of Islam. especially the stories of kids being brainwashed by the faith, having to memorize the Koran etc...
If Islam didn’t do that, instead let kids alone to make a choice themselves at say age 16 to 18...how many Muslims would be in this world? I admit it’s not quite the same with Christianity but its the same. If kids weren’t indoctrinated at an early age, told to fear the lord and fera for their eternal souls etc...we’d have waaay less people at church. Fact.
personally I’m atheist. If my kids choose to join a church when they’re older, so be it. At least they will have arrived at that decision through no biased influence.
‘Leap of Faith’ by Kimberly Bradley.
Today's scientific instruments tell us, according to page 284 of Steve Jones "Darwin's Ghost" that ...
About a thousand genes are shared by every organism, however simple or complicated. Although their common ancestor must have lived more than a billion years ago, their shared structure can still be glimpsed. It shows how the grand plan of life has been modified through the course of evolution."
And they differ how?
I am impressed that the Sex Pistol’s guitarist knows so much about molecular biology.
Still, he’s not quite correct in his description. The thousand or so genes are not shared in that they are not the same but are orthologs. They vary greatly from each other among species and throughout phyla. The gene products share the greatest conservation of structure among these thousand or so genes and retain among themselves properties of primary, secondary and tertiary structure and often retain function over the continuum of “simple” to “complicated” organisms.
These observations hardly are a “theory of life and the universe”.
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