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The War on Porn
Overcoming Lust. com ^ | January 17, 2014 | Jim Vander Spek

Posted on 01/18/2014 7:20:41 AM PST by EscondidoSurfer

Pornography has become increasingly prevalent and available since the early 1950s when Playboy magazine first forced its way into the mainstream.

Sadly, those who have opposed the spread of porn during this time have been defeated at every turn. Efforts to eliminate adult bookstores, adult movie theatres, adult movie rentals and adult cable stations have all failed.

With porn now available on every screen and some sort of screen available to every person, we can fairly say that the war is now over. All attempts to block the flood of porn have failed. We have lost the war on porn.

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TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: lust; playboy; porn; sex
We lost the War on Porn
1 posted on 01/18/2014 7:20:41 AM PST by EscondidoSurfer
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To: EscondidoSurfer

Blame the lost war on city and county officials.


2 posted on 01/18/2014 7:21:24 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

With the widespread availability of limitless free porn on the internet...the question is “how do they make money?


3 posted on 01/18/2014 7:25:18 AM PST by ken5050 (This space available cheap...)
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To: EscondidoSurfer
We lost the War on Porn

Unfortunately, you are correct. We also lost the wars on poverty and drugs.

Not a good track record.

5.56mm

4 posted on 01/18/2014 7:26:40 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: EscondidoSurfer

The wife and I watched the Blu-ray of NIAGARA last night starring Marilyn Monroe. You’ll never see a star like Marilyn again, as there would be no incentive for men to go and see her on the big screen when they can see all the porn they want on the internet.


5 posted on 01/18/2014 7:34:22 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: IbJensen

>>Blame the lost war on city and county officials.

Up until 1995, that was true, but porn was so much more limited just by the means of distribution back then that it really wasn’t a big problem.

After the internet revolution, the first order of business was mainstreaming porn and making it easy to get, cheap, and digital.

Once the porn became cheap and easy to find, the next step was in bringing masturbation out of the bathroom. Shows like “Sex in the City” and the “American Pie” movies have made masturbation into an act as socially-acceptable as defecating. It’s not something you normally do in front of people, but its no big deal if they know you’re doing it right now.

The final step was sexualizing everything. Now, the man who suffers from lust problems can get that fire re-ignited constantly. Once the fire is lit, he can gain easy access to porn, and he’s back in the game.


6 posted on 01/18/2014 7:37:44 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

7 posted on 01/18/2014 7:41:21 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: IbJensen
Honestly, I think the real ‘war’ is at the level of how we value ourselves as spiritual human beings, and what we teach our children - not just by what we tell them, but by how we live. We've let life become devalued, in general. The ‘intellectual’ flight to secularism, and the characterization of religious faith as anti-intellectual 'superstition’ has had profound effects.

We don't seem to want to be more than our organic selves anymore. We should be so very much more than the sum of our appetites. We are capable of so much more.

8 posted on 01/18/2014 7:45:23 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: EscondidoSurfer

Its so simple-make all porn have a .xxx instead of a .com ending.

Parents can then simply ban .xxx from their service.


9 posted on 01/18/2014 8:23:28 AM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: ken5050

I honestly believe that internet porn is designed to make no money and is clandestinely financed by an organization that pledges allegiance to Satan. And, they’re all leftist, God-less loons who get an immediate vicarious thrill knowing they’ve trapped another poor sucker who enjoys watching others copulate.

Pornography is just another distressing signal of the demise and sinking of societies into hell.

Pornography, homosexuality, lesbianism, drug use are all divisions of the Satan Corporation of which many of our politicians are either believers, or they are sycophants.


10 posted on 01/18/2014 8:26:21 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: EscondidoSurfer

I’m old enough to remember back in the late-70’s/early-80’s when “feminists” greatly deplored pornography on the basis that it degraded and objectified women.

Then, the porn industry started funneling money to the DemoncRAT Party (think Larry Flynt), and there hasn’t been a peep from the feministas since.


11 posted on 01/18/2014 8:29:28 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: EscondidoSurfer

The definition of porn is in the eye of the beholder.

I worked on a case with an attorney and a District Judge wanted the county judge out of office, so she got a friend Texas Ranger to say a picture of a young man on the judge’s computer was a “child” and charged him with having child pornography on his county computer. I knew that judge was not guilty of having child porn and we got that charge dropped and having porn on the computer was still charged. The county had NO rules about employees using county computers.

As a result, I wrote on a website that was dedicated to this case, that there was no definition of porn. Where does porn start? Some people would say if a woman’s ankles show, that is porn. Some might say showing her arms is porn. Some might say having on a low cut blouse is porn. With men it would be the same. If a man’s bare legs are shown, is that porn? If he has his shirt off, that might be porn to someone.

I went to that website where the young man’s photo was and there were men undressed but that website is legal. Any site showing naked children and you frequent that website, would put you in prison. Any owner of a child porn website will go to prison. Those are outlawed and the FBI is constantly trying to find those sites and shut them down with the owner going to prison. I went to other so called porn sites. If you go to the Playboy website, you can see naked women and that site is not against the law and neither are the others I went to.

Because I went to these websites, I had ads coming to my computer from those sites until I no longer had that computer. Those sites grab your computer and you never stop getting stuff from them.

So, your definition of porn may not be like another person’s definition.


12 posted on 01/18/2014 9:03:13 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Arm_Bears

Back in the early 80s, there were articles in Cosmo about how to be respected in your relationships and career. As a young woman, I found that helpful. Then that editor who had been a “kept woman” took over and realized that sex sold more makeup ads than sensible advice did. It’s been all about how to please your man in different ways ever since.

Now, looking back at any photos from the 80s, I am amazed at how clothed women are in the pictures, compared to what is being worn now, at all ages and stages of life.

Well, now I think I should go spend some time parenting my teenage girl, who has to live in this milieu.


13 posted on 01/18/2014 9:15:12 AM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: EscondidoSurfer

It is a devistating legal drug. Warn your children and try to abstain yourself. It is not good for you.


14 posted on 01/18/2014 9:19:23 AM PST by The Toll
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To: EscondidoSurfer
Then again, somebody inside his house jacking off to Internet porn is not outside raping women.


15 posted on 01/18/2014 9:22:59 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Sans-Culotte
The wife and I watched the Blu-ray of NIAGARA last night starring Marilyn Monroe. You’ll never see a star like Marilyn again, as there would be no incentive for men to go and see her on the big screen when they can see all the porn they want on the internet.

So you're saying that men lose interest in mainstream movies featuring beautiful women, because they all prefer to watch internet porn instead?

How many moons are in the sky on your planet?

16 posted on 01/18/2014 9:25:42 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: EscondidoSurfer

Apart from folks’ souls being imperiled the scariest thing is that the first ever generation to have a constant, instant, and free access to porn will be the ones in charge fairly soon.

Freegards


17 posted on 01/18/2014 9:28:12 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: EscondidoSurfer

Serial Killer, Ted Bundy reported that he got started on porn.

COINCIDENCE: Since “Dr.” Alfred Kinsey and Hugh Heffner collaborated to start the Porn Pandemic, serial killings have vastly increased and children have to be constantly watched.


18 posted on 01/18/2014 10:23:54 AM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: EscondidoSurfer

porn is evil and without redeeming qualities


19 posted on 01/18/2014 10:25:57 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: EscondidoSurfer

While the article expresses the priority of the spiritual side of this issue, I think the best legal weapon against porn and selling sex in general is to take away the profit motive.

Grant no intellectual property rights to anything that uses sex, sensuality, nudity, or erotic appeal. That would not change what people can make or view (or read, etc.) but would greatly reduce the production of porn and other sex selling media.

Hollywood might clean up its act a little if it hit their pocket book. It would pretty much destroy the porn industry.


20 posted on 01/18/2014 10:44:16 AM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Ransomed
Apart from folks’ souls being imperiled the scariest thing is that the first ever generation to have a constant, instant, and free access to porn will be the ones in charge fairly soon.

I can go out and get crack and meth any time I want to. I don't have any interest in doing so. I've has maybe 5 drinks of alcoholic beverages in the last 12 months, even though liquor stores are less than 10 minutes away.

Googling for "free porn" turns up lots of sites. I have better things to do than visit them.

21 posted on 01/18/2014 10:57:48 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: married21

We have different memories of Cosmo, as a male I read it during the mid 1970s as a way to know what was on the minds and lips of the females in the nightclubs, it was very helpful in my pursuits, it was a trashy magazine then as well.

“”In 1967, the magazine reclaimed the name Cosmopolitan and was refocused as a magazine for women. The magazine eventually adopted a cover format consisting of a usually young female model, typically in a low cut dress or bikini. The magazine focused on young women and published articles that openly talked about sexual issues.[citation needed]

This was not Brown’s first publication dealing with sexually liberated women. Her 1962 advice book, Sex and the Single Girl, had been a bestseller.[citation needed] Fan mail begging for Brown’s advice on many subjects concerning women’s behavior, sexual encounters, health, and beauty flooded her after the book was released. Brown sent the message that a woman should have men complement her life, not take it over. Enjoying sex without shame was also a message she incorporated in both publications.[10]

In Brown’s early years as editor, the magazine received heavy criticism. The magazine ran a near-nude centerfold of actor Burt Reynolds in April 1972, causing great controversy and attracting much attention.””


22 posted on 01/18/2014 11:22:11 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: PapaBear3625
I meant that a star like Marilyn would not pack in the audiences today as she would have in the 50’s and that I think instant porn access would indeed be a factor.

Your attempt at a smackdown = fail.

23 posted on 01/18/2014 3:14:44 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Sans-Culotte
I meant that a star like Marilyn would not pack in the audiences today as she would have in the 50’s and that I think instant porn access would indeed be a factor.

I've seen Marilyn's movies. As far as beauty goes, I don't see her as better looking than many of her contemporaries like Sophia Loren (who I regard as a better actress as well).

As far as going to the movies to see exceptionally-cute women, there are lots of cute women on TV as well. Much cuter than the average "porn star".

24 posted on 01/18/2014 3:23:40 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I don t think Marilyn was the most beautiful either. But her career was almost entirely based on her looks. I mentioned Niagara because it is almost soft porn. She is shown in tight dresses, taking a shower, sleeping nude under the sheets, etc. And she wasn’t even the lead (Jean Peters was). She was quite successful for a 10 year stretch based on being a sex symbol.


25 posted on 01/19/2014 12:29:17 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Bryanw92
It's "Sex and the City", and you're right. That show did make mainstream what used to be reserved for late night, adults only pay-TV. What they did - as outrageous as it was at the time - is being surpassed by regular FAMILY time shows now. If you go way back before that, I'd say "Hills Street Blues" was the forerunner to the profanity that gets tossed out regularly as well as nudity - MEN and women.

Hollywood types boast that they are "pushing the envelop" but there is no envelop anymore - anything goes just about. Little kids use words today that NOBODY said back when I was in high school even. All these things work together to coarsen our culture and the result is evident all around us. The "sexual revolution" that was imagined would bring in free love and peace in the world has resulted in rampant divorce, rapes, domestic violence, abortions, single mothers, kids with absent fathers, crime, poverty, lessening of respect for women and all life in general. It was Satan's lie and the godless drank it up.

Will there come a time when morality, order, respect, wholesomeness, goodness, gentleness and genuine love will once again be the norm? Yes, but only when Jesus Christ returns. Until then, we can strive to bring these attributes into our lives and those whom we know and can influence. I think everyone secretly yearns for the simpler times. Sin has its pleasure for a season but they are fleeting and its fruit is ruin, destruction and everlasting condemnation. Many, sadly, will only realize that when it is too late.

You have trusted in your wickedness and have said, ‘No one sees me.’ Your wisdom and knowledge mislead you when you say to yourself, ‘I am, and there is none besides me.’ Disaster will come upon you, and you will not know how to conjure it away. A calamity will fall upon you that you cannot ward off with a ransom; a catastrophe you cannot foresee will suddenly come upon you. (Isaiah 47:10-11)

26 posted on 01/19/2014 11:02:59 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: ken5050

We are living in the nightmare world of the Anthony Weiners.


27 posted on 01/19/2014 11:20:49 PM PST by redleghunter
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