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Private Revelation: Two Stories and Two Basic Types (an atheist confronts a miracle)
NC Register ^ | January 20, 2014 | MARK SHEA

Posted on 01/20/2014 4:21:37 PM PST by NYer

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
—Hamlet, Act 1, Scene V

Nineteenth-century France turned out splendid atheists. There was nothing half-baked about a nineteenth-century French atheist. When he left the Catholic faith, he didn’t shilly-shally around with Protestantism or the religious methadone treatment called Unitarianism. He went straight for hard-boiled materialism that declared the supernatural to be bunk.

One such man was Alexis Carrel, a nineteenth-century doctor who won the Nobel prize in Medicine in 1912. Raised a Catholic, Carrel had, by 1900, rejected all supernatural belief and become a committed atheistic materialist. But he also believed in investigating facts rather than simply imposing ideology on things. So in 1902, he accompanied a doctor friend to the shrine at Lourdes where, it was said, the Blessed Virgin had appeared to a girl named Bernadette Soubirous in 1858. There were many stories of miraculous cures at the shrine as sick people washed in or drank from a spring that had been dug there by Bernadette. Profoundly skeptical, Carrel wanted to see for himself. So he boarded a train for Lourdes—and met Marie Bailly. Fr. Stanley Jaki tells the story:

Marie Bailly was born in 1878. Both her father . . . and her mother died of tuberculosis. Of her five siblings only one was free of that disease. She was twenty when she first showed symptoms of pulmonary tuberculosis. A year later she was diagnosed with tuberculous meningitis, from which she suddenly recovered when she used Lourdes water. In two more years, in 1901, she came down with tubercular peritonitis. Soon she could not retain food.

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1 posted on 01/20/2014 4:21:37 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 01/20/2014 4:21:57 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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3 posted on 01/20/2014 4:34:37 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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one mind was open, the other was closed

4 posted on 01/20/2014 4:37:21 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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As for me, after a long life in which I, in my early days, strayed into agnosticism, I have returned to the Faith of my youth.

I refuse to believe that the manifold gems of human achievement are the detritus of some cosmic hiccup.

Order presupposes an Intelligence that creates it.

"Dia shábháil ar fad anseo!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

5 posted on 01/20/2014 4:38:16 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Mlichael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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Too bad we can’t post the whole stores from the Register.

*8Carrel was caught between two worlds. As an atheistic materialist, he didn’t want to be identified with what he regarded as the gullible hoi polloi who believed this stunning cure to be a miracle from heaven. But as an honest man, Carrel simply couldn’t ignore what he saw, as many in the French medical establishment insisted he should do. For many years, Carrel tried to distance himself from both groups and tried to ascribe Marie’s healing to gobbledygook about “psychic forces” and various other lame naturalistic explanations. But at the end of his life, Carrel finally received the sacraments of the Church and died reconciled to God.**

6 posted on 01/20/2014 5:13:35 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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7 posted on 01/20/2014 6:28:14 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.)
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For one man, infidelity was based on fact; for Zola, it was strictly a matter of faith. For Carrel, the facts mattered.

8 posted on 01/20/2014 11:10:54 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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The best advice is to read Carrel’s actual book for oneself- “The Voyage to Lourdes”. It is not a difficult read and very fascinating - I read it while preparing for a Pilgrimage to Lourdes in 2006. I did not need the book to cause me to believe in the Lourdes miracle(s) because I already believed; however - it makes the foundation even more solid when you read the (former) atheist doctor’s testimony.

An excellent read! It can be requested through one’s local library- even though the librarians might have to go out their own system, they can still procure it.

9 posted on 01/21/2014 4:21:07 AM PST by stonehouse01
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