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Francis: Christian or Muslim, the faith your parents instilled in you will help you move on
Rome Reports ^ | 1-20-2014

Posted on 01/20/2014 4:40:51 PM PST by ebb tide

Pope Francis' visit with a group of refugees at the Sacred Heart parish can best be described as simple, warm, and relaxed.

POPE FRANCIS "Thank you. Because by welcoming everyone as family, you make anyone that comes in feel like family. Today I am here and I feel at home, like family. Thank you very much. But I am missing one thing: Mariana hasn't offered me any mate.”

To get to Italy, many of the refugees had to endure many hardships, even the loss of friends and family. Pope Francis said that to lighten the weight of their suffering, they should share their pain among one another, helping and encouraging each other despite any differences in beliefs.

POPE FRANCIS "Sharing our experience in carrying that cross, to expel the illness within our hearts, which embitters our life: it is important that you do this in your meetings. Those that are Christian, with the Bible, and those that are Muslim, with the Quran. The faith that your parents instilled in you will always help you move on.”

In addition to meeting with refugees, the Pope also met with the homeless that depend on the parish for help.

POPE FRANCIS "Hold on to hope. Hope never lets down. Never! True hope. And thank you very much for helping each other, for this friendship in helping each other to move forward in life.”

Pope Francis' visit marked the World Day of Migrants and Refugees. The Parish is close Rome's central train station, Termini. That's the starting point for many people arriving at the Eternal City, in search of a better life.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Islam; Theology
KEYWORDS: 72virginsokay; eens; faith; francis; jihadisanotherchoice; pope; rcdamagecontrol; stoningthemadonna; universalism
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Those that are Christian, with the Bible, and those that are Muslim, with the Quran. The faith that your parents instilled in you will always help you move on.”
1 posted on 01/20/2014 4:40:52 PM PST by ebb tide
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So much for preaching the Gospel to all nations.


2 posted on 01/20/2014 4:41:36 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Uh-oh. Ted Baxter needs another clarification from the Vatican.


3 posted on 01/20/2014 4:42:00 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: ebb tide
http://www.romereports.com/pg155489-francis-to-refugees-christian-or-muslim-the-faith-your-parents-instilled-in-you-will-help-you-move-o-en
4 posted on 01/20/2014 4:45:55 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: ebb tide

“Those that are Muslim, with the Quran. The faith that your parents instilled in you will always help you move on.”

Good grief. He is imploding. What is Francis - a warm-up act for the anti-Christ?


5 posted on 01/20/2014 4:47:28 PM PST by plain talk
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To: ebb tide

Does this include “moving on” to heaven...or is that completely irrelevant to the pope?


6 posted on 01/20/2014 4:49:46 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: ebb tide

So now he’s equating the koran to the Holy Bible?

Geezzz.... the man might actually try reading the book.


7 posted on 01/20/2014 4:50:36 PM PST by boycott
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To: ebb tide

Yeah, read this.

http://shoebat.com/2014/01/19/muslims-gang-rape-elderly-american-woman-colorado-rare-horrific-ways/


8 posted on 01/20/2014 4:50:41 PM PST by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: ebb tide

Here’s another presumption with that statement: that no converts to either christianity or islam exist...how torn-shred is that for a presumption?


9 posted on 01/20/2014 4:51:55 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: ebb tide

he doesn’t only need a pr clinic...but a cursillo...a short course in christianity


10 posted on 01/20/2014 4:53:46 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: ebb tide

Got to be a mis-translation.

IBTPWMS


11 posted on 01/20/2014 4:54:16 PM PST by xone
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To: ebb tide
http://prophetofdoom.net/
12 posted on 01/20/2014 4:54:19 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Olog-hai

Thanks, I meant to post the URL link but somehow missed doing it.


13 posted on 01/20/2014 4:56:57 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Yes, people’s religious faith can help them get past their grief, regardless of what faith they belong to. I don’t believe in any tenants of Buddhism but if it helps Buddhists cope with the loss of a loved one, I don’t mind. What exactly is your point?


14 posted on 01/20/2014 4:58:34 PM PST by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: ebb tide
hey Frank, are you really this clueless ?   stfu for awhile might be a good strategy for the time being . . .
15 posted on 01/20/2014 5:03:39 PM PST by tomkat
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To: miss marmelstein

LOL


16 posted on 01/20/2014 5:07:04 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: plain talk

Hopefully he’s the warm-up act for another Pope John Paul II.


17 posted on 01/20/2014 5:17:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: BillyBoy
Yes, people’s religious faith can help them get past their grief, regardless of what faith they belong to. I don’t believe in any tenants of Buddhism but if it helps Buddhists cope with the loss of a loved one, I don’t mind. What exactly is your point?

There's no grief greater than that of those in Hell. That's just one of my points.

18 posted on 01/20/2014 5:17:55 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: boycott

He certainly hasn’t read the Bible with any comprehension. He thinks the good shepherd left the one sheep to look for the lost ninety-nine.


19 posted on 01/20/2014 5:21:13 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Does that include Satanist too? Becuz, parts of Islam are pretty close.


20 posted on 01/20/2014 5:26:06 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: ebb tide; All

Although I don’t necessarily agree with the Pope’s statement about faith and parents helping one to move on, especially if one doesn’t study the Holy Bible, his statement brought the biblically recorded events of the life of the Apostle Paul to mind. Undoubtedly there are Muslims who will likewise have their spiritual eyes of faith opened by the Lord.

On the other hnad, with all due respect to Pope Frances, I sometimes think that he needs to learn how to show less tolerance for unrepentant sinners the way that Jesus did with the teachers of the law and the Pharisees in Matthew 23. In fact, Matthew 18:15-17 shows that Jesus taught all Christians to treat unrepentent sinners like a pagan or tax collector.


21 posted on 01/20/2014 5:26:39 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: ebb tide

Pope FAIL.


22 posted on 01/20/2014 5:26:44 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: ebb tide

Pepsi, Coke
Chevy, Ford
Christian, Muslim
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Same, same.


23 posted on 01/20/2014 5:37:07 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: ebb tide

Actually Mr. Pope, your

“those that are Muslim, with the Quran. The faith that your parents instilled in you will always help you move on.”

You are quite in error- for Christians will not be throatslit for reading the Koran to see what is in it, but Muslims will have their throats slit and eyes gouged out for even trying to learn anything about Christianity -
Besides moslem children are FORCED by parental threats, not INSTILLED, to recite the Koran everyday over n over n over in Arabic, even if they do not speak Arabic but speak Pashtu etc.
In California I knew a moslem guy who converted to Catholicism, and disappeared in 2 weeks, never to be hearcd of again. yup.

This pope appears to be an idiot.


24 posted on 01/20/2014 5:48:00 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: plain talk
Good grief. He is imploding. What is Francis - a warm-up act for the anti-Christ?

He has been identified by
Saint Malachy, a 12th‑century
Archbishop of Armagh, Ireland
as "Peter the Roman".
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
25 posted on 01/20/2014 5:50:34 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: ebb tide

No source — thus not credible. Even with the Moderators.


26 posted on 01/20/2014 5:56:00 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: plain talk

I’m sure the faith the parents instilled in their suicide bomber children helped them to move on into a crowded shopping mall to kill as many infidels as possible.


27 posted on 01/20/2014 5:59:41 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Salvation

See posts 4 and 13 and go back to where you came from.


28 posted on 01/20/2014 6:01:08 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

A friend of mine who left the Catholic Church said he came to the conclusion that the Church didn’t want him to read the Bible. Instead they’d tell him what he needed to know. I’m sure the Pope has read the Bible. But obviously he hasn’t read any newspapers.


29 posted on 01/20/2014 6:06:53 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Salvation
No source — thus not credible. Even with the Moderators.

Pick it up about 66 seconds into the clip. -tom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlqgL-hAC-M

30 posted on 01/20/2014 6:07:11 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Salvation

Before you go, check out post 19 also.


31 posted on 01/20/2014 6:10:15 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
IB4TPWM
32 posted on 01/20/2014 6:12:00 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Salvation
No source — thus not credible. Even with the Moderators.

LOL!

33 posted on 01/20/2014 6:13:11 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: ebb tide

We know what the Bible helps you to move on to - but the question is: What does the quran help you to ‘move on’ to?

As a Catholic Christian, please clarify, Francis.

Or maybe he was misinterpreted - again?

I sure don’t know what to make of this pope.


34 posted on 01/20/2014 6:20:26 PM PST by sneakers ( Quinn: "Liberty is the solution to the human condition.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d rather see another Benedict the 16th.


35 posted on 01/20/2014 6:25:24 PM PST by sneakers ( Quinn: "Liberty is the solution to the human condition.")
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To: ebb tide

OBVIOUSLY the Pope was miss translated. Probably.


36 posted on 01/20/2014 6:52:05 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Post#11, but you may qualify for my ‘S’, sincerely.


37 posted on 01/20/2014 7:11:42 PM PST by xone
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To: ebb tide
>> There's no grief greater than that of those in Hell. That's just one of my points. <<

Pope Francis mentioned nothing about the afterlife in his comments, or the fate of a person's soul. It was entirely a statement about how a person's religious faith can help them cope with many hardships they endure in life, including losing their friends and family.

That's "controversial" to you?

This is the biggest non-story on FR since a bunch of freepers were "outraged" by John McCain mentioning he might do what EVERY Republican President in history has done, and have a Democrat or two serving in his cabinet (most likely it would have been Joe Lieberman as Sec. of Defense. Ohhh! SHOCKING!) I guess they missed when the first 43 Presidents said the same thing and announced cabinet appointments across party lines.

38 posted on 01/20/2014 9:27:09 PM PST by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: sneakers
>> We know what the Bible helps you to move on to - but the question is: What does the quran help you to ‘move on’ to? As a Catholic Christian, please clarify, Francis. <<

As a fellow Catholic Christian, have you actually read the Quran? There are numerous sections where it mimics the Bible (often deliberately). Just because a religion is false, don't mean every single page of their holy book is the opposite of yours.

39 posted on 01/20/2014 9:34:48 PM PST by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: BillyBoy; ebb tide

I agree with BillyBoy. Mother Teresa did the same as Pope Francis, and was faulted as well. But if your walk in life is about peacemaking, and I think the Pope is in that vein, what he said doesn’t ring any alarms with me. Pray for the man; pray for us all—we need it!


40 posted on 01/20/2014 10:58:03 PM PST by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy

AMEN, amen!

Pope Francis is simply living up to his namesake.


41 posted on 01/21/2014 3:26:54 AM PST by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: Salvation

Thank-you and God Bless!


42 posted on 01/21/2014 3:28:15 AM PST by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: Amendment10

Have you ever heard of the saying, “love the sinner, hate the sin” ?


43 posted on 01/21/2014 3:30:04 AM PST by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl; All
Have you ever heard of the saying, “love the sinner, hate the sin” ?

Yes. But regarding such sayings, beware of the "traditions of men" which Jesus warned about in Mark 7:8 which don't complement what the Scriptures teach us. And not only does Isaiah 5:20 warn us not to call evil good, but note that the way that Jesus addressed how Christians were to treat unrepentant sinners in Matthew 18:15-17, and the way that he addressed the Pharisees in Matthew 23, don't reflect the idea of loving the sinner and hating the sin.

And how does "love the sinner, hate the sin " compliment Paul's words of 1 Corinthians 5:13, "With such a man do not even eat (NIV)," or from 1 Corinthians 15:33, "Bad company corrupts good character (NIV)." It doesn't compliment those passages either.

Yes, Jusus taught us to love our enemies. But with respect to the passages referenced above, love them from a distance.

44 posted on 01/21/2014 8:54:24 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: ebb tide

Somehow I don’t see pre-Vatican II popes giving any credence to the Koran and the Muslim faith.

Probably because they were busy teaching the truth: that it’s false and evil.


45 posted on 01/21/2014 2:24:13 PM PST by piusv
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Koran-kissing JPII?


46 posted on 01/21/2014 4:23:38 PM PST by piusv
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To: piusv

He kissed the Koran? When was that?


47 posted on 01/21/2014 4:24:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A055rcKoran.htm


48 posted on 01/21/2014 4:34:20 PM PST by piusv
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To: BillyBoy; mlizzy
Pope Francis mentioned nothing about the afterlife in his comments, or the fate of a person's soul.

Well, he certainly should have; because the afterlife is a lot longer, and final, than the mortal life. And I still pray for the soul of Mother Theresa, mlizzy.

49 posted on 01/21/2014 7:31:58 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Biggirl; Salvation

See post 28.

Thank-you and God Bless you!


50 posted on 01/21/2014 7:45:27 PM PST by ebb tide
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