Posted on 01/21/2014 7:03:33 PM PST by NKP_Vet
Last week two outrageously anti-Catholic outbursts took place in the public forum. The first was an article in U.S. News and World Report by syndicated columnist Jamie Stiehm. Ms. Stiehm argued that the Supreme Court was dangerously packed with Catholics, who have, she averred, a terribly difficult time separating church from state and who just can’t refrain from imposing their views on others. Her meditations were prompted by Justice Sonia Sotomayor’s granting some legal breathing space to the Little Sisters of the Poor, who were objecting to the provisions of the HHS mandate. As even a moment’s thoughtful consideration would reveal, this decision hadn’t a thing to do with the intrusion of the “church” into the state, in fact just the contrary. Moreover, the appeal of American citizens (who happen to be Catholic nuns) and the decision of a justice of the Supreme Court in no way constitute an “imposition” on anyone. The very irrationality of Stiehm’s argument is precisely what has led many to conclude that her column was prompted by a visceral anti-Catholicism which stubbornly persists in our society.
The second eruption of anti-Catholicism was even more startling. In the course of a radio interview, Governor Andrew Cuomo blithely declared that anyone who is pro-life on the issue of abortion or who is opposed to gay marriage is “not welcome” in his state of New York. Mind you, the governor did not simply say that such people are wrong-headed or misguided; he didn’t say that they should be opposed politically or that good arguments against their position should be mounted; he said they should be actively excluded from civil society!
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How long will we have to wait before the Islamic anti-Catholicism kicks in?
I’m Episcopalian and it bothers me tremendously.
the Cuomo’s of the WORLD..are just that..
May the shameful statements bite him where it would hurt most.
I'm not afraid of heathens like Stiehm or apostates like Cuomo.
The Devil himself cannot hurt us if we stray true to Christ and His Church.
AMEN.
Will the bishops of New York speak up as forthrightly as Father Barron? Indeed, will his superior, the Archbishop of Chicago, speak up as forthrightly as Father Barron?
Bump for later.
You came to the right place.
(In before ‘that’s different’!)
Tonight, he was being trashed on FR for mentioning the simple truth that all people can find comfort from painful things in life through their religious faith.
Honestly, imagine how evangelical freepers would react if protestant preachers were trashed this way. Suppose there's some headline about Billy Graham saying "Jews are my brothers and sisters", and Catholic freepers respond by ganging up on the thread to spew "Graham is a phony Christian" line of attack, claiming "Billy Graham is an IDIOT who has obviously NEVER read the bible and says its OKAY for his "friends" to reject Jesus!!"
Somehow I doubt THAT kind of attack against would go over very well here.
The critics don’t normally show up threads that speak to the Pro-Life facts. Or about the battles against the Marxist regime.
But it is OK if you are born again to bash a Calvinist or vice-versa. That's when I like to break out the popcorn, sit back, and enjoy the fireworks.
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Y'all probably aren't reading enough of Religion Forum threads. If you had, you would not be making such a ridiculous statement. Non-Catholic/Mormon Christians are regularly criticized by Catholics/Mormons here - often being told we are going to hell because we aren't Catholic/Mormon - and we still don't call it "bashing".
And JFTR, it's not "bashing" when a poster disagrees with something Mormonism or Catholicism teaches and isn't shy about saying it. Try to learn the difference and you just may avoid the hurt feelings in the future.
I oppose the Catholic Church myself. I just wrote a little bit about why in another thread. Recently the Lord led me to move from my home state of New York to the Bible belt, I believe for support right now because even evangelical churches, which are a very small percentage of churches in NY, are heavily influenced by Catholic beliefs there. Cuomo’s remarks are primarily anti-Christian. Yet he can make them because NY is a heavily Catholic state and most Catholics support him because what the Bible says doesn’t determine their political views.
I've noticed that myself. Some Mormon freeper was claiming there's a conspiracy here to ban people "just for being Mormon". I certainly don't think that's the case... you can be openly Mormon and post all you want on here, but it's certainly acceptable to bash Mormons. (I was even attacked for pointing out that a lot of Mormon families do a better job practicing what they preach than Christian families -- e.g. no sex outside of wedlock, etc., and accused of being a Mormon supporter even though I think Mormonism a wacky cult)
Criticizing Jews and Protestant beliefs as a whole is a big no-no here. I was flamed for simply pointing out the fact that MOST American Jews are extremely liberal and pro-Dem,so it was delusional to think the Jewish vote was "in play" for Romney. I was told that was "offensive" to all the wonderful Jewish conservative freepers and that I should have to "apologize" for my comments, but I was right. Obama got 70% in 2012. Apparently it is also now taboo to mention anything bad Ariel Sharon did as Prime Minister. We're supposed to pretend he's pure as driven snow and never sold out of this country (ironically just a few weeks ago, there were constantly complaints of biased saintly portrays of Nelson Mandela on FR)
>> But it is OK if you are born again to bash a Calvinist or vice-versa. That's when I like to break out the popcorn, sit back, and enjoy the fireworks. <<
True as well. I don't believe in either camp's ideology, so for those food fights, I just watch quietly and enjoy the show.
>> Y'all probably aren't reading enough of Religion Forum threads. If you had, you would not be making such a ridiculous statement. <<
I usually avoid the religious threads precisely BECAUSE of those types of fights breaking out. When I do post, I get drawn into them. The rules also make no logical sense. A post asking about whether an evangelical Democrat has truly been born again is an "open threads", but a thread about ALL Christian Churches promoting amnesty from the pulpit is for the "Evangelical caucus" ONLY and I'm not "allowed" to post there. Bizarre stuff.
>> Non-Catholic/Mormon Christians are regularly criticized by Catholics/Mormons here - often being told we are going to hell because we aren't Catholic/Mormon <<
The interesting thing about the Catholic bashing is its always one extreme or the other. Either the Catholic Church is bad and unChristian because they supposedly are too cozy with other religions and think everyone is getting to heaven and being an atheist is A-OKAY with the "liberal marxist Pope", OR, the Catholic Church is bad and unChristian because they ONLY accept Catholics as a legit faith and think all other religious and other Christian denominations are "going to hell" and thus want to force everyone to become Catholic.
I wish the bashers would make up their minds. It reminds me of liberals mocking the right because some conservatives want to make MLK Jr. out to be a staunch "card-carrying Republican", whereas other conservatives want to convince everyone he was a "perverted anti-American communist". It looks silly and it certainly hurts our side when we have people saying polar opposite things like that. (not to say the left isn't just as bad with the some of the wildly different things they've put out there to trash our side)
I concur. The examples given in the article are more anti-Christian than anti-Catholic.
Sad but true, even though the RM has from time to time taking out posts that really, really gotten very personal in the attacks against Catholic FRpers.
Perhaps because some people think eternal salvation is a bit more important than temporal comfort.
Fixed it for you.
Do try to keep up better with the threads and you'll see the pattern.
It depends some on which side of the debate you're on and how much of a martyr you want to make of yourself.
Don't forget that the RF is loaded with Catholic bashing Prots but no Catholics ever bash Prots. /s
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