Skip to comments.Pope Francis encouraged Muslims to find hope in the Qur’an. 11 things to know and share.
Posted on 01/21/2014 8:16:31 PM PST by ebb tide
1. While visiting with a group of refugees at the Sacred Heart parish in Rome on Sunday, Pope Francis said:
Sharing our experience in carrying that cross, to expel the illness within our hearts, which embitters our life: it is important that you do this in your meetings. Those that are Christian, with the Bible, and those that are Muslim, with the Quran. The faith that your parents instilled in you will always help you move on.
2. As Catholics, we understand that the illness within our hearts is more than just the anxiety and sadness that accompany all who mourn and weep in this valley of tears; rather, the true source of mans embitterment is separation from God.
3. Jesus Christ alone is the Divine Physician by whose stripes we are healed. (cf Isa 53)
4. The Quran maintains that Our Blessed Lord is but a mere man and nothing more. It is, in other words, a book of blasphemous lies, offensive to Almighty God and to those who love Him in truth.
5. One may cling to the Quran until their dying breath, but apart from Jesus Christ and His Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation.
6. Those parents who instilled in their children a faith in the false god of the Quran have accomplished little more than perpetuating a lie, consigning their offspring to death.
7. Jesus Christ commissioned His Church to baptize all nations in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost; teaching them to observe everything whatsoever that He has commanded.
8. The Vicar of Christ has a duty to carry out this mission.
9. Pope Francis failed both Our Lord and the Muslims to whom he spoke at Sacred Heart parish in Rome.
10. Pope Francis joined those Muslim parents in perpetuating a lie that essentially consigned their offspring to death.
11. We must pray and fast for the pope.
What now? Pass this along to those who as yet do not realize the extent of the crisis of faith besetting the Catholic Church in our day; the diabolical disorientation that has taken hold of the sacred hierarchy even to the highest offices in Rome, so they might know for what they must offer oblation in reparation for such grave offenses against the Sacred Heart of Our Blessed Lord.
11. We must pray and fast for the pope.
~~~those that are Muslim, with the Quran~~~
you might want to take a look at this.
Only hope in Jesus, without Him we’re all lost.
This Pope is not good news, but Catholics will go on holding him up, nonetheless..
“Get Thee Behind Me, Satan!”
Paul says, "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
There is nowhere in scripture that says ‘apart from His Holy Catholic Church there is no salvation’.
In fact, nowhere in scripture does it say ‘apart from the church there is no salvation’.
All scripture says is that apart from Jesus Christ, there is no salvation.
Satan always takes the truth and twists it just a little bit in order to create doctrines of men far removed from the Word of God.
This pope thinks he’s a rock star. He should realize that it’s not about him.
The Catholic Church is the ONLY true Church. Pure papal opinions on ecumenism as just that- statements of tolerance, not dogma. We’ve had enough of the heresies of Protestantism from the David Koresh’s to Jim Jones to Joel Osteens.
oh my! The very last thing this old world needs is for Muslims to keep reading their Korans! Boom Boom Bomb Bomb...
How about giving them some nice new Bibles instead?
>> The quran, catechisms, et al will get you or anyone else into the Kingdom of God.
I guess it’s a good thing you’re not to be taken seriously.
My OK was not really such
Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?” Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.” John 14:5-7
Moses writes this about the righteousness that is by the law: The person who does these things will live by them. But the righteousness that is by faith says: Do not say in your heart, Who will ascend into heaven?’ (that is, to bring Christ down) or Who will descend into the deep?(that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). But what does it say? The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart, that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: If you declare with your mouth, Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. As Scripture says, Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame. For there is no difference between Jew and Gentilethe same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. Romans 10:5-13
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. Ephesians 2:8-10
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 1Peter 2:9
From Acts 4:11,12 -
Jesus isthe stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.
grace and peace
So tell me, if I grew up in a Baptist church and believed my whole life in what they taught what do you think will happen to me on Judgement day? Since the Catholic church is the ONLY true church according to you, did my Baptist church, who taught all things Biblical, lead me to a path away from Jesus where He will end up rejecting me? If not...then what DOES it matter? If I am a child of God saved by the Lord himself through belief, faith, repentence and accepting His spirit into my heart what does it matter if I even ATTEND a church???
I think it only matters, in that a good church, is a good place for learning things like discipleship, evangelism, and is also a good place to fellowship with like minded believers. Being a member of ANY church, will not get anyone saved, and won't keep anyone saved. That is just the cold hard fact of life. I know many do not accept that, but that is not my problem.
Like all cults Rome must insist on salvation through their own organizational scheme.
We are told to gather together. The New Testament model is to do so.
“Like all cults Rome must insist on salvation through their own organizational scheme.”
Like all cults Geneva must insist on salvation through their own theological scheme.
Did you ever wonder who came up with this "scheme"?
"If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector." --Jesus
You can find this quote in the Bible that Christ's Church, wrote, preserved and canonized, unlike Luther's doctrine of "the Bible alone."
You can even find this quote in Luther's abridged version of the Bible.
Actually, “Geneva” does no such thing.
Nice distortion of Scripture. Suggest you reread the entire passage.
“Actually, Geneva does no such thing.”
And Rome isn’t a cult (it’s a city, actually).
Have you seen my pictures?
Moses smell the roses. Where is the forehead slap guy?
Yes I agree, it is good to go for those reasons. I developed a sort of backlash against it for awhile for a couple reasons I won’t go into now. Anyways, now that I’m older I’d love to go and learn and fellowship it’s just the Lord has not seen fit to help me with my sleep issues/schedule so I can never even wake up seeing as I go to sleep pretty close to when it starts. Wish they had afternoon/evening services:(
Papal opinions are statements of tolerance.
Protestants statements are heresy
While there can be times when you cannot physically go to a church, as i myself right now, it is not normative not to be part of a church. We are saved by grace as contrite damned+destitute sinners coming to Christ, trusting Him to save us on His blood-expense and credit, which faith is counted for righteousness, (Rm. 3:8-4:7ff)
However, the only faith is such is that which effects the obedience of faith, which confesses Christ in word and in deed. (Mt. 10:32; Rm. 10:9,10)
Which is shown in worship, devotion, prayer and sanctification and service. Thus those ,
that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. (Acts 2:41-42)
When you were born again, then you were baptized into the body of Christ, (1Cor. 12:13) which in Scripture is manifest in organic communities. For Christ did not build some well running parts, but a church upon Himself, with which to prevail against the gate of Hell. (Mt. 16:18; Eph. 2:20)
And which army is not a bunch of isolated parts: "For the body is not one member, but many." (1 Corinthians 12:14) "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. (Hebrews 10:25) By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. (John 13:35)
Thus the normative means of expressing faith in Christ is by being part of a community, worshiping and praying together, in addition to what we do by ourselves.
“The Catholic Church is the ONLY true Church. Pure papal opinions on ecumenism as just that- statements of tolerance, not dogma. Weve had enough of the heresies of Protestantism from the David Koreshs to Jim Jones to Joel Osteens.”
Words from a hard heart. You need to read Gods word and find truth. And pray for wisdom and guidance.
Judgment is for God but Christ gave the Great Commission to St. Peter and his successors to teach ONE truth. These teachings tell us how we get to God in union with his Mother, the saints and martyrs. What you think your “Baptist Church taught you all things Biblical,” is no different than what Rev. Moon tells the congregants of his Church, or what the Anglican Church teaches, or Lutherans, or the corner street Four Square First Church of Calvary or whatever they want to call themselves teach. I am sure your Baptist Church does not believe in the “Holy Eucharist” based on the Scriptural reading “as interpreted by the Catholic Church,” that unless you eat of My Flesh and drink of My blood you shall not have life everlasting.
You use PFL often. Please tell me what that means! I’m going bonkers.
“Have you seen my pictures?”
No, why? Are you funny looking?
A "Christian" is a person that has received Jesus Christ as their savior, willfully makes Him their Lord by being baptized in the Holy Spirit and receiving from God through Jesus Christ via the Holy Spirit in all things.
Mary the mother of Jesus, the pope, a nun, pastor, imam, sensei, jim jones, david koresh, al shapton, or any other "holy man/woman" will NOT get you as close to God as Jesus Christ will nor will they get you into the Kingdom of God. In fact... If you do not know Jesus Christ you will NEVER know God.
If you do not know God/Jesus Christ - aka - the Word/The Holy Spirit (these three are one 1 John 5:7 KJV) you're NOT getting into or seeing the Kingdom of God.
Not my rules. They're His.
Gene Eric - "I guess its a good thing youre not to be taken seriously."
I meant to say, "The quran, catechisms, the book of mormon, communist manifesto, confucius nor any other false teachings will get you or anyone else into the Kingdom of God.'"
My finger must not have pushed down on the "N" hard enough in the word nor and I missed it when I reread it. Sorry to confuse you.
As for not being taken seriously ha ha.... The truth rarely is. No sweat off my brow. Sorry to disappoint you again. ;)
Steelfish... You’ve never read your bible have you?
LOL - was too good to pass up.
And how where those sacred writings of Christians assembled into one book?
Martin Luther never read or even saw a Bible until he was in a monastery. How did that monastery come to be?
John 21: 25 “But there are also many other things which Jesus did which, if they were written every one, the world itself. I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written.”
This why we have the Catholic Church. The rest is all heresy!
John 21: 25 But there are also many other things which Jesus did which, if they were written every one, the world itself. I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written. (Bible Douay-Rheims)
You are correct about teachings but Christ entrusted to Peter the Rock, His Church to faithfully instruct ONE truth, not the 35, 000 heresies spawned by the evil of Lutheran Protestantism, Calvinism, Wesleyan and you get the picture -go check Jim Jones and David Koresh, and the rest of the heretics form Rev. Moon to Billy Grahams to Swaggarts to Joel Osteens to TD Jakes and the rest of the clowns who claim to crack open a Bible (Books authenticated by the Church. These books we call the Bible did not fall from the skies) and preach what “they” perceive is their truth.
No Mass, No Eucharist (all of which have been authenticated by Scripture, Tradition, and Revelation) and these heretics think they have it right. All they do is feed on the gullible low-information Christians (Tammy Faye Baker: Pass The Loot-PTL) and before long they have made quite a bit of dough for themselves and their families. ala Joel Osteens and Rick Warrens!
Papyrus, leather, bark, wood, plants, straw, other natural products.
Who chose which books?
You're absolutely right and that is a most excellent post. But I would like to share this from a slightly different perspective.
Our loving God is perfect love and patience and kindness. He is also perfect justice and righteousness. He wants us to be that way as well.
People wills are bent towards sin. We know the vices of unbelievers. They cannot help themselves because their minds are darkened.
But for the church there exists around us false teachers and false prophets-unbelievers who purpose is to bring in destructive heresy. These are the people who in the last days will cry out, "Lord, did we not do (fill in the blank) in your name?" It is to these people our Lord will say, "I never knew you." For you see, it's not about what we did, but what He did.
And don't think for a moment believers don't relish in false teachings, heresy, false religions, etc. This is the nature of our deceptive hearts. Although believers do not practice sin, we still sin. We like to think we are working for the kingdom, when it is Christ working through us. For without Him we can do nothing.
God patiently tries to guide true believers away from all of this to become more like Him. It is believers who strives against God's will, wanting to do our will. Our Lord Jesus has set us free the bondage of sin, but still our hearts deceive us and we would run back to Egypt if it wasn't for our Lord's pastoral care.
So the reason tolerance has no part in the Kingdom of God is simply because God desire is for true believers to be perfect as He is perfect. He wants for us the very best-that is the love of God. The real people who fight against this to varying levels is all of us; unbelievers, tares in the church, and, yes, even believers. We don't want to recognize God's handiwork. Unbelievers fight against it even recognizing God. Tares try to mislead people from away from the perfection of God. And believers fight against submitting to God's will. It is we who are intolerant of God.