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Evangelical and Mormon Leaders Gather in Tabernacle to Promote Faith and Religious Freedom
Meredian Magazine ^ | 18 January 2014 | By The LDS Newsroom

Posted on 01/23/2014 5:10:18 PM PST by restornu

Evangelist and author Dr. Ravi Zacharias addressed the topics of faith, family and freedom in a gathering at the Tabernacle on Temple Square on Saturday, 18 January 2014. “We must build our lives on things that are eternal,” Zacharias told more than 3,000 gathered in the Tabernacle in his message titled “Lessons From History, Building a Nation Under God.” During his speech, he related lessons learned from the Bible and compared them to modern-day events.

This is the second time Zacharias has spoken in the Tabernacle and his third visit to Utah since 1994. Zacharias is founder and president of Ravi Zacharias International Ministries, headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia, with offices in Canada, India, Singapore, the United Kingdom, the United Arab Emirates and Hong Kong. The event was presented by Standing Together, a network of evangelical congregations in Utah, and hosted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to promote religious freedom.

Elder Jeffrey R. Holland of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles greeted the large audience of religious leaders and “friends of all faiths” in the historic Tabernacle, which has been the setting of worship and inspiring music for 150 years. “World leaders and men and women of many faiths have spoken here, including Dr. Zacharias in 2004,” said Elder Holland. “We’re very, very happy to have him back.”

“I say that, in part, to assure many who may be wondering whether tonight’s gathering of evangelicals and Latter-day Saints under the same roof is being interpreted as clear evidence that the apocalypse is upon us,” he quipped. “Who knows, it may be.”

Elder Holland said those in attendance had a “shared love of Jesus Christ.” “But in an increasingly secular world and facing the attack on religious faith and religious freedom that we see all around us, it is imperative for the extended Christian community to acknowledge that what we have in common is so far-reaching and so potentially powerful in addressing the ills of society and of the soul that the very least we can do is know and understand each other better than we do,” he added.

Zacharias said we have a common cause in trying to create a good moral soil in this culture. “Moral soil is very critical in which reasoning and art can flourish,” he said during an interview at the Good Shepherd Lutheran Church in Sandy. Zacharias expressed concern about what happens “when the nation is led in a rabid, secularistic way of thinking.”

He voiced disappointment in the way academics are treating religious thought around the world. “The key is what we ultimately do with our children,” Zacharias said. He urged parents to guide their children through the “mine field” they encounter in the media, even at a younger age than ever before.

“Before we can clean house in a nation, we actually have to do some soul searching of our own house — what is going on in the house of the Lord, what do we believe, why we believe it and the centrality of God’s purpose for our life,” he said during the interview.

“We have lost our moorings,” Zacharias told the diverse audience in the Tabernacle, as “we live beyond our moral means and our fiscal means and spiritual means.”

“There is only one angle at which you can stand straight and many, many different angles at which you can fall,” he said.

Zacharias travels 200 days a year sharing his message of the gospel of Jesus Christ as a Christian apologist. During an interview earlier in the week, he shared one of his favorite scriptures, which states, “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ” (Romans 1:16).

“The gospel gives purpose,” he told the Tabernacle audience. “We don’t change people’s lives. Only God is big enough to do that.”

“We talk so much about one’s rights that we talk so little about what is actually right,” Zacharias stressed to the crowd.

He encouraged the audience to read the scriptures. “Open the scriptures and make a commitment to read the Gospel of John,” Zacharias said. One of his favorite scriptures found in John was instrumental in his conversion to Christianity at the age of 17 while he was growing up in India. He was given a Bible while hospitalized following a suicide attempt. It reads, “Because I live, ye shall live also” (John 14:19).

“Most people cannot think for themselves anymore,” he said. “The world out there is caught in this vortex of relativism.”

“We will never change the outside until we change from within,” Zacharias concluded. “Redemption is prior to righteousness.”

Gospel singer and songwriter Fernando Ortega of Albuquerque, New Mexico, performed during the program. Temple Square organist Bonnie Goodliffe provided the prelude music.

During his visit to Utah, Zacharias also spoke to students at Brigham Young University in Provo.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Other Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: evangelical; lds; ravizacharias

1 posted on 01/23/2014 5:10:18 PM PST by restornu
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To: Jeff Head; teppe; StormPrepper; Normandy

Be of Good Cheer!:)


2 posted on 01/23/2014 5:11:55 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

Ravi gives a great speech.


3 posted on 01/23/2014 5:12:18 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: restornu

Ravi Zacharias was the editor of the updated version of Kingdom of the Cults by Walter Martin.


4 posted on 01/23/2014 5:23:38 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Viennacon; restornu
Ravi gives a great speech.

I'm sure a good time was had by all.

5 posted on 01/23/2014 5:26:26 PM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: restornu
“Most people cannot think for themselves anymore,” he said. “The world out there is caught in this vortex of relativism.”

bingo

Thanks for the post.

6 posted on 01/23/2014 5:31:28 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: restornu

Thanx Resty ....


7 posted on 01/23/2014 5:33:16 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: restornu

“Zacharias said we have a common cause”

We certainly do. We just don’t have a common Jesus, a common Gospel or a common God.


8 posted on 01/23/2014 5:34:46 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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To: Jeff Head; teppe; StormPrepper; Normandy

Ravi Zacharias at the Mormon Tabernacle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h3aVs4imQI


9 posted on 01/23/2014 5:59:21 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

>>>Elder Holland said those in attendance had a “shared love of Jesus Christ.” >>>

No, “Elder,” they use the same name for an entirely different god.


10 posted on 01/23/2014 6:16:44 PM PST by Hilda
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To: Vendome

Do not use that nickname for the poster. It is a pejorative meaning “sluggish.”


11 posted on 01/23/2014 6:21:35 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: restornu

Will the Mormons have to replace the carpet now?


12 posted on 01/23/2014 6:24:44 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: All
Zacharias said we have a common cause in trying to create a good moral soil in this culture. “Moral soil is very critical in which reasoning and art can flourish,” he said during an interview at the Good Shepherd Lutheran Church in Sandy. Zacharias expressed concern about what happens “when the nation is led in a rabid, secularistic way of thinking.”

“Before we can clean house in a nation, we actually have to do some soul searching of our own house — what is going on in the house of the Lord, what do we believe, why we believe it and the centrality of God’s purpose for our life,” he said during the interview.

“We have lost our moorings,” Zacharias told the diverse audience in the Tabernacle, as “we live beyond our moral means and our fiscal means and spiritual means.”

“There is only one angle at which you can stand straight and many, many different angles at which you can fall,” he said

The gospel gives purpose,” he told the Tabernacle audience. “We don’t change people’s lives. Only God is big enough to do that.”

“We talk so much about one’s rights that we talk so little about what is actually right,” Zacharias stressed to the crowd.

“Most people cannot think for themselves anymore,” he said. “The world out there is caught in this vortex of relativism.”

“We will never change the outside until we change from within,” Zacharias concluded. “Redemption is prior to righteousness.”

He encouraged the audience to read the scriptures. “Open the scriptures and make a commitment to read the Gospel of John,” Zacharias said. One of his favorite scriptures found in John was instrumental in his conversion to Christianity at the age of 17 while he was growing up in India. He was given a Bible while hospitalized following a suicide attempt. It reads, “Because I live, ye shall live also” (John 14:19). John 14

15 ¶If ye love me, keep my commandments.

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

...Now were these words said vein as I read the replies here About We must build our lives on things that are eternal,” common Moral soil, and Religious Freedom; when some are being divisive it is impossible to do!...

13 posted on 01/23/2014 7:08:41 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu; All

“Zacharias expressed concern about what happens “when the nation is led in a rabid, secularistic way of thinking.”


Zacharias doesn’t realize that he himself is engaging in a “rabid, secularistic way of thinking” by joining hands with the LDS contrary to scripture. The truth is not relative, nor does it concede anything or give honor to those who believe that God has an eternal wang which he uses to impregnate his harem of goddess wives.

“And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.”
(2Co 11:12-13)


14 posted on 01/23/2014 8:02:10 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: restornu; All

By the way, this is what the LDS really thinks about the feeble minded Zacharias and his religion:

“What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world”

- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 270

“...all the priests who adhere to the sectarian religions of the day with all their followers, without one exception, receive their portion with the devil and his angels.”

- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. , The Elders Journal, v. 1, no. 4, p. 60

“With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world.”

- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p.

“Christians—those poor, miserable priests brother Brigham was speaking about—some of them are the biggest whoremasters there are on the earth, and at the same time preaching righteousness to the children of men. The poor devils, they could not get up here and preach an oral discourse, to save themselves from hell; they are preaching their fathers’ sermons —preaching sermons that were written a hundred years before they were born. ...You may get a Methodist priest to pour water on you, or sprinkle it on you, and baptize you face foremost, or lay you down the other way, and whatever mode you please, and you will be damned with your priest.

- Apostle Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, v. 5, p. 89

“What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute beast.”

- Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, v. 13, p. 225

“Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the ‘whore of Babylon’ whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent.”

- Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 255

“After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon.”

- Apostle George Q. Cannon, Gospel Truth, p. 324

“Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls.”

- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, see pp. 45-46

“I was answered that I must join none of them (Christian Churches), for they were all wrong...that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight” (Joseph Smith History 1:19).

“...orthodox Christian views of God are Pagan rather than Christian.”

(Mormon Doctrine of Deity by B.H. Roberts, p.116)

“...the God whom the ‘Christians’ worship is a being of their own creation...”

(Apostle Charles W. Penrose, JD 23:243)

“The Christian world, so called, are heathens as to their knowledge of the salvation of God.”

(Brigham Young, JD 8:171)

“What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute best.”

(John Taylor, JD 13:225)

“What does the Christian world know about God? Nothing...Why so far as the things of God are concerned, they are the veriest fools; they know neither God nor the things of God.”

(John Taylor, JI) 13:225)

“Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls

(Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.177)

“...brother Joseph B. Nobles once told a Methodist priest, after hearing him describe his god, that the god they worshiped was the “Mormon’s” Devil-a being without a body, whereas our God has a body, parts and passions.”

(Brigham Young, JD 5:331)

“...the great apostate church as the anti-christ...This great antichrist...is the church of the devil.”

Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine p.40)

“Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the “whore of Babylon” whom the lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness.”

(Pratt, The Seer, p.255)

“God is not at its head, making that church [i.e., Christianity] – following the appearance in it of Satan – no longer the church of God. To say that Satan sits in the place of God in Christianity after the time of the apostles is not to say that all that is in it is Satanic.”

- Kent P. Jackson, “Early Signs of Apostasy,” Ensign, December 1984, p. 9

1 Nephi 14:10 “Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of god, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth.”

“Orthodox Christian views of God are pagan rather than Christian”

(Mormon Doctrine of Deity, B. H. Roberts [General Authority], 116).

Brigham Young: “…and he that confesseth not that Jesus has come in the flesh and sent Joseph Smith with the fullness of the Gospel to this generation, is not of God, but is Antichrist.”

(Journal of Discourses, Vol 9 pg 312).

Mormon Apostle Hyrum M. Smith,- “In fact, my brethren and sisters, if the falsity of a religion can be measured in any degree by the amount of trouble and turmoil and strife and bitterness and hatred that it has engendered in the hearts of men, if it can be judged by the number of wars it has carried on and the rivers of blood it has shed, the amount of misery and sorrow, it has caused, or the extremes of impurity, found among its adherents, then Christianity, that which is known as Christianity, is the falsest of all religions in the world… The trouble is, as God declared to Joseph the Prophet, mankind have gone astray. Their religions are an abomination in his sight, and their professors are corrupt because they have turned away from the truth and have turned unto fables.”

(Conference Report, October 1916, p.43).


15 posted on 01/23/2014 8:06:52 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: restornu

It was a wonderful presentation, Resty. Thanks for posting the thread pointing to Ravi’s gift.


16 posted on 01/23/2014 8:23:01 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: restornu

BTW, have you watched the video of Ravi’s talk at BYU? It was a wonderful presentation.


17 posted on 01/23/2014 8:24:04 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: restornu

BTW, restornu, when I use ‘Resty’ I mean no disrespect. I am quite capable of showing that with sentences rather than a nickname.


18 posted on 01/23/2014 8:26:53 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

She does not mind the nickname but I do. RF guidelines must be applied even-handedly. Pejorative nicknames are not allowed and therefore cannot be used even when they are intended as a term of endearment.


19 posted on 01/23/2014 8:36:46 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Zacharias doesn’t realize that he himself is engaging in a “rabid, secularistic way of thinking” by joining hands with the LDS contrary to scripture.

***

Of course he knows he did the follow-up in Martins "Kingdom of the Cult".

Yes I did watch it just finished and he did what he set out to do, the talk was suppose to be on respecting Religious Freedom, good moral soil in this culture, instead it was subtle or double entendre all very cute stuff.

There was nothing Love One Another about it. I really did enjoy the person who provided the music he was not hostile he seem sincere.

I am sure many enjoy the performance and how he was able to weave his fiery darts!

I am sure in the future he would like to have access to the the new Conference Center to do it even on a bigger scale.

This is the Jesus I worship and learn about in the Bible...

If the Savior Stood Beside Me

I'm Trying to Be like Jesus

20 posted on 01/23/2014 9:29:45 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

“I am sure many enjoy the performance and how he was able to weave his fiery darts!”


If you didn’t like it, maybe Zacharias wasn’t capitulating to the “all religions are equal” chorus after all. Though the article you posted would suggest otherwise. You should post a transcript or, perhaps, a link to the video. If Zacharias was whipping the LDS in their own tabernacle, it would be very fun.

“This is the Jesus I worship and learn about in the Bible...”


You mean the standard works of the LDS. The Bible is not a polytheism affirming work.


21 posted on 01/23/2014 9:38:45 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You are funny these people aren’t alive is this all you have?

the Ravi has been invited several times to Brigham Young to undermine the LDS

How much more can we do for those who like to take swipes at us??

Ravi Zacharias on Mormonism and his speech on the LDS Mormon Tabernacle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWLzHt8ImyE#t=11


22 posted on 01/23/2014 9:39:40 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

“You are funny these people aren’t alive is this all you have?”


Huh?

“How much more can we do for those who like to take swipes at us??”


What great news! You should have been posting this instead of harming Zacharias’ good name by making him out to be a sell-out. Thanks for the link, I’ll check it out and see what he has to say.


23 posted on 01/23/2014 9:42:38 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
So you disagree with the words of the Bible sorry this is the Jesus I believe in, and these are his counsel to his flock....

It seems like some here it would not matter if the Savior stood beside them they would still be the same ornery person!

Come Follow Me

If the Savior Stood Beside Me

I'm Trying to Be like Jesus

24 posted on 01/23/2014 9:54:10 PM PST by restornu
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

How is haring someone when they enjoy saying unkind things that is not what Jesus taught to do to those who are gracious to you!

Jesus disciples do not engage in backbiting that is not a true follower of Jesus Christ.

One who loves the Lord tries his will to do!

John 13

34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.


25 posted on 01/23/2014 10:01:42 PM PST by restornu
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
If you didn’t like it, maybe Zacharias wasn’t capitulating to the “all religions are equal” chorus after all. Though the article you posted would suggest otherwise. You should post a transcript or, perhaps, a link to the video. If Zacharias was whipping the LDS in their own tabernacle, it would be very fun.

****

BTW the talk was suppose to be on standing together on good Moral soil, defending Freedom of Religion even it we disagree on doctrine etc at this time when the world hates good and wants to chase Jesus off the planet.

Instead Ravi did not keep his word Meridian Mag was gracious to someone who does not show the same in demeanor.

I did post a link in post #9

Ravi wasn't whipping anyone it was all one sided and said very little about defending Religious freedom as far as I am concern he is one of the character out Aesop's Fables.

26 posted on 01/23/2014 10:16:45 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

“One who loves the Lord tries his will to do!”


One who loves the Lord Jesus does not claim that Satan is his brother, and that, if he (the Mormon) is righteous enough, he will become a god of his own planet.

“before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.” (Isaiah 43:10)


27 posted on 01/23/2014 10:25:25 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

How can one correct someone if they insist on their own spin.

Jesus had a bad brother, Able had a bad brother.Isaac had a bad brother, Jacob has a bad brother.

It is a pattern that runs though out the Bible.

“before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.” (Isaiah 43:10)

This is Jesus the only begotten Son of Heavenly Father.

Jesus came directly through Heavenly Father and Mary. The rest of us came through Adam.

Lucifer did not keep his 1st estate therefore he never received a body.

Lucifer was the light bearer

All this stuff in the scriptures if folks would take the time and search them

People can be hoodwinked to day because many do not think for themselves and the tradition of men lead them where ever..

I posted this stuff too many times if folks don’t want to receive fine, it is there waiting for those who are humble and contrite and hunger for the Lord’s Word.


28 posted on 01/23/2014 11:24:45 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

“Jesus had a bad brother,”


Jesus is God, and there is only one God, and therefore He had no brother:

“Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any” (Isa 44:8).

“All this stuff in the scriptures if folks would take the time and search them”


You mean the Mormon standard works. The Bible does not teach polytheism or the rampant and foul materialism of Joseph Smith, the bigamist and polygamous who married women who were even still married to other men.


29 posted on 01/23/2014 11:28:12 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Religion Moderator

I have no idea what you are talking about.

That’s how I’ve always addressed her.

There has never been any slight intended. More directly, it is a term of endearment.

I didn’t come to her thread to argue, dissent or undermine her post.

Do what you feel is best.


30 posted on 01/23/2014 11:46:24 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

there was polygamy in the OT I knew about that when I was a tot in the late 40’s early 50’s that was preached before I ever heard about the Mormon existence.

It is true today people have been dumb down.

Lot of people think they can erase so many things out of history when there are people still alive who have good memories.


31 posted on 01/23/2014 11:57:50 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

“there was polygamy in the OT”


None of the ancients ever married a woman who was married to another man, and I’ll remind you of this:

1Ti_3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

“Lot of people think they can erase so many things out of history when there are people still alive who have good memories.”


Yeah, like the Mormons. They really wish we’d not read the Bible or think critically about their prophets.


32 posted on 01/24/2014 12:02:09 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; All
Yeah, like the Mormons. They really wish we’d not read the Bible or think critically about their prophets.

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We are in the last dispensation there were several before dispensations that all ended abruptly. We do not have the records or all the knowledge of why it happen... but a day will come when the Restitution all things will be made known, so just because we only have a Reader's Digest version of our Holy Bible it will all be revealed Amos 8

11 ¶Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:

I truly am looking to the day when more plain and precious truths surface about the Holy Bible.

Acts 3:21 … “The times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.”

As for now The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have receive much of the Plain and Precious Truths and know there is more to come...

Apostasy of the Early Christian Church

Restoration of the Gospel

33 posted on 01/24/2014 7:52:36 AM PST by restornu
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To: restornu; Greetings_Puny_Humans
>>this is the Jesus I believe in<<

Which one? The one of scripture or the one of the LDS? They are not the same.

34 posted on 01/24/2014 10:43:00 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

Certainly not the one the Svengali been trying to sell with sarcasm, innuendos with a tongue like Korihor!


35 posted on 01/24/2014 11:37:13 AM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
>>a tongue like Korihor<<

Ah! More Mormon fables! You really need to clarify for the lurkers and readers of your posts that Mormons believe in a different Jesus than what scripture teaches. Jesus is NOT the brother of Satan as the Mormons believe. It’s lie that Satan would like people to believe that he was once equal to Jesus. Satan after all wants desperately to be like God. Mormonism is a deception of Satan.

36 posted on 01/24/2014 11:49:23 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
>>a tongue like Korihor<<

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Yes a tongue like Korihor

Alma 30 excerpt

6 But it came to pass in the latter end of ...., there came a man into the land of .....and he was Anti-Christ,

....for he began to preach unto the people against the prophecies which had been spoken by the prophets, concerning the coming of Christ.

Same things going on today....

37 posted on 01/24/2014 12:22:10 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

LOL That Mormon book of Alma may be what Mormons consider scripture but it’s not God’s word. Old Joey Smith may have been a good fiction writer but he was NOT a servant of the one true God any more than Mohammad was.


38 posted on 01/24/2014 12:47:52 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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