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[Why I Am Catholic] Sec John Kerry Gets Earful From The Vatican SecState Regarding The HHS Mandate
Patheos/YIMCatholic ^ | January 15, 2014 | Frank Weathers

Posted on 01/25/2014 10:41:49 AM PST by Salvation

Secretary John Kerry Gets An Earful From The Vatican SecState Regarding The HHS Mandate

January 15, 2014 By Frank Weathers

 

“Ahem. About the recent domestic unpleasantness with the Little Sisters of the Poor, Papa Francesco is not ‘amused.’

The big headline was all about Pope Francis’s strong words regarding the horror of abortion. Let others be shocked that il Papa stands for the culture of life. The neat thing to me was that the comments were made to the envoys to the Holy See. Ambassadors will have a few things to report back to their respective Chief Executives, etc.

The tidbit that stealthily stood out to me, though, was the mention of the 100 minute long meeting between U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Vatican Secretary of State, Archbishop Pietro Parolin. They discussed, among other important things, the HHS Mandate. Francis X. Rocca of the Catholic News Service spells it out below,

Cardinal-designate Pietro Parolin, who as secretary of state is considered the highest Vatican official, met with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry Jan. 14 for a conversation that lasted an hour and 40 minutes. 

Peace in the Middle East, and particularly Syria, had been expected to be Topic A. Kerry was stopping in Rome between meetings in Paris and Kuwait devoted to the crisis in Syria. And Pope Francis has made ending the civil war in Syria a major focus, among other ways by leading a prayer vigil last September that drew 100,000 people to St. Peter’s Square.

So it was no surprise when the Vatican spokesman, Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, reported that the two secretaries of state had discussed common concerns on Syria, as well as Israel and Palestine, and other questions of foreign policy. The attention-grabbing anomaly in his account of the diplomats’ talk was a U.S. domestic issue.

Father Lombardi said the two men “also discussed the United States, especially the themes that have been the object of concern and discussion by the U.S. bishops: the health care reform and its relationship to guarantees of religious freedom.”

That was evidently a reference to the contraceptive mandate: the Obama administration’s requirement that nearly all health insurance plans, including those offered by most Catholic universities and agencies, cover sterilizations, contraceptives and some abortion-inducing drugs — all of which are forbidden by the church’s moral teaching.

While legal challenges to the mandate are making their way through the U.S. courts, Archbishop Joseph E. Kurtz of Louisville, Ky., president of the bishops’ conference, asked President Barack Obama Dec. 31 to exempt from fines religious institutions who believe funding contraception and sterilization violate their religious principles.

If there were any doubts about the Vatican’s support for the bishops’ stand, they were dispelled by Cardinal-designate Parolin’s decision to include the contraception mandate in a discussion of geopolitical priorities with Obama’s top diplomat — and then have the Vatican spokesman tell the press about it.

“We cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods,” Pope Francis said in a widely quoted interview published last September. “When we speak about these issues, we have to talk about them in a context.”

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; hhs
Chuckling at Kerry's facial expression and body language. He doesn't look too happy! LOL!
1 posted on 01/25/2014 10:41:49 AM PST by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

**100 minute long meeting between U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Vatican Secretary of State, Archbishop Pietro Parolin. They discussed, among other important things, the HHS Mandate.**

Catholic Ping!


2 posted on 01/25/2014 10:42:45 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

did anything about the border and immigration come up?


3 posted on 01/25/2014 10:47:08 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Salvation

It’s doubtfull that Kerry even cares what the Vatican SecrState has to say — Kerry is just going through the motions as if he is paying attention.

He probably reminds himself of what Stalin once asked: “How many divisions does the Pope have?”


4 posted on 01/25/2014 10:54:28 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: Salvation

They are both hell bound phonies.


5 posted on 01/25/2014 11:05:02 AM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Ping!

6 posted on 01/25/2014 11:05:30 AM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: bogusname

Who both?


7 posted on 01/25/2014 11:18:47 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you, but to act justly, to love tenderly, to walk humbly with your God)
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To: bogusname
They are both hell bound phonies.

By "they" I assume you mean Kerry and Obama...

8 posted on 01/25/2014 11:19:43 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Salvation

"Yes, yes...I think Teresa has the original in our third floor powder room."


9 posted on 01/25/2014 11:26:54 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: bogusname
They are both hell bound phonies.

Indeed? We know a great deal about John Kerry's character, and it might not be unreasonable to surmise that unless he has a major change of heart, repents his sins, and alters his behavior, he could well be destined for hell. But we know nothing about the character, faith, or behavior of Archbishop Parolin. How can you say that he is destined for hell? Is there something you know about his relationship with the Lord that no one else does?

No, it's not for us to make these determinations. If you believe that these men are "hell-bound," then as a Christian your duty is to pray for them.

10 posted on 01/25/2014 11:30:26 AM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: bogusname

Are you a Christian?


11 posted on 01/25/2014 11:39:32 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Salvation

The best description I’ve heard is his face looks like a Mexican burrito filled with sadness.


12 posted on 01/25/2014 11:51:29 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Salvation

Kerry is ugly inside and out


13 posted on 01/25/2014 3:33:04 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 353FMG

I would tend to agree with you.


14 posted on 01/25/2014 3:45:01 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: bogusname

That wasn’t the Pope. How do you say that Vatican Secretary of State, Archbishop Pietro Parolin is a fake?

Or is it that you are bashing Catholicism in general?


15 posted on 01/25/2014 3:46:45 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: COBOL2Java

LOL!


16 posted on 01/25/2014 3:47:29 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: COBOL2Java
They are both hell bound phonies.
By "they" I assume you mean Kerry and Obama...

You read my mind. I assume he means those two as well.

17 posted on 01/25/2014 5:20:28 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Salvation
HHS Mandate: license to kill. Very .007, but not in the LEAST entertaining.

Abortion, no matter how you wrap it up, is indeed murder, murder of the MOST innocent, from where a baby is SUPPOSED to be the safest.

18 posted on 01/25/2014 5:23:05 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: NYer

Remember how for about four or five days the Leftist perverts and homos were all atwitter because they thought the Pope was on their side concerning homosexuality and homosexual marriage? Man they thought finally they had God on their side. Guess Il Papa wised them up but good!


19 posted on 01/25/2014 5:49:14 PM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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To: Salvation

I scrolled down to #19, last I saw, and other than one poster, not any of the usual Catholic-bashers. Guess they’ll show up eventually. They just can’t help themselves.

Whenever I see Kerry, I imagine how John Heinz would be rolling in his grave to see what Theresa did. I don’t think she’s ‘gotten over’ John Heinz to this day.


20 posted on 01/25/2014 7:14:14 PM PST by EDINVA ( m)
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To: Salvation

Kerry’s “facial expression?” It looks like a new botch of Botox!


21 posted on 01/25/2014 8:08:13 PM PST by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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To: Salvation

Kerry’s “facial expression?” It looks like a new botch of Botox!


22 posted on 01/25/2014 8:09:13 PM PST by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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To: namvolunteer

LOL!


23 posted on 01/25/2014 8:11:19 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

It is simply the truth.


24 posted on 01/26/2014 6:38:47 AM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: COBOL2Java

I wasn’t thinking of Obama at the moment but he’s surely headed for an even hotter spot


26 posted on 01/26/2014 6:42:51 AM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: ottbmare

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

1 Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?


27 posted on 01/26/2014 6:45:36 AM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Come out of that wicked body of idol worshippers and believe in Christ alone.


28 posted on 01/26/2014 6:47:42 AM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: bogusname
Come out of that wicked body of idol worshippers and believe in Christ alone.

To whom are you referring?

29 posted on 01/26/2014 7:36:44 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: bogusname
It is simply the truth.

It must be nice and cozy inside your tiny little box.

31 posted on 01/26/2014 7:43:39 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: bogusname

Yes, but we know nothing about this man; we have no basis on which to make any judgements. Kerry, we pretty much do.


32 posted on 01/26/2014 7:48:26 AM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: EDINVA
I scrolled down to #19, last I saw, and other than one poster, not any of the usual Catholic-bashers.

This one's fun to play with though. Kind of a Chick comic books-level basher.

33 posted on 01/26/2014 7:51:56 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: bogusname
That's your answer to my question "Who both?"? It is a non-sequitur.

You don't even know me. How could you possible infer that I am an idol-worshipper? I adore God alone: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

34 posted on 01/26/2014 8:22:48 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: bogusname

I was simply asking if you were a Christian.

Interesting that you assume that I am not....just as you assume to know that other people created by God are going to hell. Perhaps my question should have been: “Are you claiming to be God?” After all, only God has such knowledge.

As a Christian, you might want to read the following:

Love Assumes the Best
http://www.uu.edu/centers/rglee/fellows/fall01/hester.htm

I pray that all of us grow in love...in our love for the Lord, Jesus, and our love for one another so that we will all be one as He and the Father are ONE. THAT is the witness the world is desperate to see these days.


35 posted on 01/26/2014 10:07:00 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Salvation; NYer
"Chuckling at Kerry's facial expression and body language. He doesn't look too happy! LOL!"

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36 posted on 01/26/2014 12:58:03 PM PST by Heart-Rest (Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:7)
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To: 353FMG

And H.H. Pius XII replied, “Tell my son Joseph that he will meet my legions of angels in the next world.”


37 posted on 01/27/2014 9:52:55 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: EDINVA
...not any of the usual Catholic-bashers. Guess they’ll show up eventually. They just can’t help themselves.

Now that you have started the Protestant bashing, your "bait" will probably catch some posters that you can post "hate hate hate" to.

Works every time.

I know, I know. You just couldn't help yourself it appears. Gotta get that contention going huh?

38 posted on 02/13/2014 9:35:47 AM PST by Syncro (So? -Andrew Breitbart [1969-2012] RIP King of The New Media)
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To: Syncro

*Hate* to tell you, I am a Protestant who is embarrassed by some on here who don’t seem capable of staying off Catholic or Mormon threads not for purpose of enlightenment, but for bashing purposes only. Guess you’re one, since you’re replying to a 3 week old post. Did a RC thread pass you by?


39 posted on 02/13/2014 12:16:03 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA; COBOL2Java
So replying a bit late gets a "guess you are one?" from you?

Sorry my post didn't fit your time frame.

Didn't you know that bashers are fun to play with?

Are you like that, like to break the rules?

If you go out looking for trouble you will usually find it.

The bait didn't work too good on this thread.

40 posted on 02/13/2014 12:41:41 PM PST by Syncro (So? -Andrew Breitbart [1969-2012] RIP King of The New Media)
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To: EDINVA
Guess they’ll show up eventually. They just can’t help themselves.

Lonesome droid?

41 posted on 02/13/2014 12:48:32 PM PST by cornelis
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To: cornelis
Lonesome droid?

Apparently. Hyper-sensitive, too.

42 posted on 02/13/2014 3:38:56 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: All
If there were any doubts about the Vatican’s support for the bishops’ stand, they were dispelled by Cardinal-designate Parolin’s decision to include the contraception mandate in a discussion of geopolitical priorities with Obama’s top diplomat — and then have the Vatican spokesman tell the press about it.

If there were any doubts about the Vatican’s support for the rest of Obamacare, they were equally dispelled by Cardinal-designate Parolin’s decision to focus solely on the contraception mandate.

43 posted on 02/13/2014 3:56:28 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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