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Benedict's Peculiar Record on Pedophile Priests
National Catholic Register ^ | January 23, 2014 | Simcha Fisher

Posted on 01/26/2014 10:58:59 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

Benedict's Peculiar Record on Pedophile Priests

by Simcha Fisher Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:44 PM Comments (36)

Excerpt:

...But here's the fascinating part.  Kellmeyer reprints a chart from the John Jay Report on annual totals of accused priests and incidents of sexual abuse reported by year, from 1950 to 2005:

Horrible numbers.  But look at the shape of that chart.  Kellmeyer says:

Do you notice anything interesting? Do you see how that red line (number of cases) and that blue line (number of priests committing abuse) both begin a REALLY rapid descent? Well, if you look closely at the year when that rapid fall begins, that year would be 1981 - two years after John Paul II is elected Pope and the same year Ratzinger is picked to head the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

Even though the CDF won't streamline the process and gain sole jurisdiction over abuse cases until 2001, the chart shows that the minute Ratzinger became the head of CDF, someone, somewhere started shutting these abusive priests down. By 1995, most of the rat holes had been closed.

The press didn't pick up on what was going on until AFTER Ratzinger or one of his confreres had already finished most of the work.

Awfully strange behavior for a fellow who was so devoted to hiding and protecting pedophiles. 

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1 posted on 01/26/2014 10:58:59 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: All

I wonder if its a racial defect with catholic priests since no other people on the planet engage in sexual abuse..


2 posted on 01/26/2014 11:12:42 AM PST by willywill
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

And yet, the person people that deal with a lot of sexual abuse victims most often say was shielding pedophiles...is not Ratzinger but JPII.

So where does this article come from? Strictly accusations from the NYT (Which accuses every religious person of every foul thing imaginable)?

Defending some one not particularly accused of the bad behavior in question.


3 posted on 01/26/2014 11:13:27 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: willywill

The state run orphanages in Texas were rife with pedophiles in the seventies.


4 posted on 01/26/2014 11:15:59 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

I’ve been pushing that chart on FR for years.

A few other things to notice from the John Jay report:

The vast majority of incidents are homosexual, and not truly pedophile, in nature. The studies which found that man-boy pedophiles were not overwhelmingly homosexual in their adult relationships was based on the classic definition of pedophile, which is one who prefers sex with pre-pubescent children. The sexual abuse in these cases was garden-variety homosexuality.

This isn’t just a few bad priests; it’s thousands.

The ration of incidents to accused priests is less than 2:1, meaning that the mode number of incidents is 1. The serial abuser is actually the anomaly.


5 posted on 01/26/2014 11:18:03 AM PST by dangus
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To: MrEdd

The abuse skyrocketed under the VII popes and plummeted under the post VII popes. One may draw whatever conclusions from that observation they like. There is ample evidence that homosexual clergy exploded primarily under Paul VI, and with it, pederasty.


6 posted on 01/26/2014 11:20:23 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Great chart! Thanks for posting it.


7 posted on 01/26/2014 11:47:43 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Please, this chart does not mean what the media is saying it means! This chart is just translated wrong!


8 posted on 01/26/2014 12:02:35 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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To: All
The title pedophile priests is dishonest. The vast majority of these cases are homosexual priests involved with young men in the mid and late teens. The homosexual network within the Catholic Church protected and promoted other homosexuals. They reassigned them to other parishes and kept their homosexuality secret from parishioners.

Pope John Paul II appointed Cardinal Ratzenberger(who became Pope Benedict) to deal with this problem. He did an excellent job and was able to get some of the homosexual priests out of the church. Benedict also appointed bishops who were not part of the homosexual network. However, there is still a homosexual network that covers up their evil. They are not Catholic in any sense of the word. They still cover up for each other. The bishops in the homosexual network are also the ones who promote a leftist agenda and who neglect the faithful Catholic families. Archbishop Weakland of Milwaukee who stole parishioners donations to give over $500,000 to his young boyfriend is one example. Archbishop Weakland was also extremely critical of both Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict.

The question is whether Pope Francis will continue the vigilance of Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict.

9 posted on 01/26/2014 12:21:57 PM PST by detective
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To: Salvation; Mrs. Don-o

excellent graphic ping


10 posted on 01/26/2014 12:26:36 PM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

I think the biggest factor is that that gay men quit joining the priesthood so when the old queens started dying off they weren’t replaced. I’m not sure any new discipline contributed to the lesser instances of abuse, besides JPII demonstrating that he wasn’t going to relax the teaching of the Church as concerned things like bc within marriage, civil divorce and remarriage and the discipline of celibacy.

By the early 70’s there were whole communities of openly homosexual men living together in general society, something that never happened on that level before, at least in the modern era. They could get jobs and be openly gay, and in some of them they were celebrated, academia, fashion, politics—they were on TV and in popular culture more and more. The 80’s were more extreme, the following decades more so and on to what we have today. Now there are something like 18+ states with ‘gay marriage’ and in many areas it is illegal to ‘discriminate’ against them.

Now if they want to get into religion, there are many faiths that will eagerly and specifically put them in positions of leadership, where they can be openly gay in relationships, and never have the Church’s unchanging plain teaching as concerns homosexual acts hurt their feelings. I mean, how likely is a group that by the early 70s still didn’t accept civil divorce and remarriage, birth control within marriage, and kept the discipline of celibacy to go ahead and accept homosexual relationships? That’s why the lavender mafia absolutely hates the discipline of celibacy and constantly howl for it to be lifted, they look at it as one step towards acceptance of the active homo lifestyle, in my opinion.

Freegards


11 posted on 01/26/2014 12:33:13 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
B T T T ! ! ! ©

12 posted on 01/26/2014 12:42:20 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Wrong time period, wrong paradigm. That only started with Pope Francis. And you’ll notice that some of us Catholics ain’t buying that new paradigm either.


13 posted on 01/26/2014 12:48:36 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Ransomed

Emissaries were sent to all the seminaries to check them out. Yes, the homosexuals were cleaned out.

Any straight young man now applying for the priesthood must undergo a two-day psychological exam, parents are questioned, priests recommending the individual are questioned, and the person applying probably goes through four to five different interviews.

It’s not an easy entrance exam — if you want to say it that way.


14 posted on 01/26/2014 12:49:01 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“Emissaries were sent to all the seminaries to check them out.”

When?

Freegards, thanks for all the pings on FR


15 posted on 01/26/2014 2:34:02 PM PST by Ransomed
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16 posted on 01/26/2014 2:34:52 PM PST by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Ransomed

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17 posted on 01/26/2014 2:49:57 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Salvation, I know they did it, but when did they start doing it? Before the decline in abuse instances? 1985? 1995? Or after 2002 when the story broke in the mainstream? I know I only heard about it after 2002 or so, I think.

Freegards


18 posted on 01/26/2014 3:02:20 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: willywill

What is unique about the Catholic denomination, is not that it has the usual human failings among it’s leadership of Priests and such, but it’s relationship with male on male lust, that isn’t identified with any other religious leaders but Catholic.

When people hear ‘Catholic sex scandal’ the first thought that pops into their head is not the priest running off with the female organist or falling in love with a female parishioner.


19 posted on 01/26/2014 3:15:36 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

“That only started with Pope Francis.”

Sorry, I’m not buying that the gay mafia at the vatican started with Francis. He certainly didn’t bring it with him..


20 posted on 01/26/2014 3:15:58 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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To: willywill

Humor so dry you could pour it in a cocktail glass and drop an olive in it.


21 posted on 01/26/2014 3:23:48 PM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You missed my point completely. I guess I was being too subtle for you.


22 posted on 01/26/2014 3:45:04 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
Dear Brian,

The trend was already dramatically upward by the time of the “VII popes.” From what I can make out, in 1951, there are perhaps 50 abuser priests. By 1955, there are over 100. Two years later, there are roughly 150. A tripling in six years.

As well, when were all these priests ordained? When did they enter the seminary? Typically, men are ordained no earlier than age 25 or 26. Assuming, at the latest, entry into seminary after obtaining a baccalaureate degree, these priests abusing by 1955, IF EVERYONE OF THEM HAD BEEN NEWLY-ORDAINED, they'd all been in the seminary since 1951.

By 1960, there are over 250 abusers - a five-fold increase since 1950. Bu not a single one of those priests could have entered the seminary after the death of Pope Pius XII!

My own view is that Pope John XXII called the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council because he could see the crisis in the Church, one symptom of which was homosexuals coming into the priesthood in large numbers.

Did you ever wonder why Pope John XXII gave the exhortation firmly forbidding the ordaining of homosexual men? Do you think this just fell out of the sky? One morning, the Supreme Pontiff woke up with a bee in his bonnet and said, “Let's let folks know that homosexuals are still banned from the priesthood!”

My own belief is that he was responding to a growing crisis in the Church, one that had been growing for a lot of years before 1958.

Obviously, his attempts to fix the problem don't appear to have done a lot of good. But let's place this crisis properly in history. This problem was already well under way before the “VII popes.” I don't know when the seeds were planted, but they were already in bloom by the last few years of Pius XII.

It's clearly well-past time that we stop blaming the ills of the Church on an ecumenical council.


sitetest

23 posted on 01/27/2014 5:29:44 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
It's clearly well-past time that we stop blaming the ills of the Church on an ecumenical council.

I'm not blaming them on the council. During the time of Pope Paul VI homosexual infiltration of the priesthood exploded. Yes it started well before the council but it increased dramatically under his pontificate.

24 posted on 01/27/2014 6:09:26 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
Dear Brian,

My larger point is that it was already exploding by the early 1950s. From 1950 to 1960s, the number of abuser priests grows MORE THAN FIVE-FOLD. In 10 years. It almost doubles again by roughly 1980, but the explosion is well under way with men who were accepted for the priesthood starting, likely, in the late 1940s, and being in absolutely full swing, full explosion, by 1955.

Frankly, this likely understates how severe the problem probably already was in the 1950s, since the taboo against homosexuality was much, much greater in 1950, 1955, or even 1960, than in 1980.

The only thing that one can say about Pope Paul VI is that he, like Pope John XXIII, and Pope Pius XII before him, seemed entirely unable to resolve the problem.

It really took Pope John Paul II to wrestle the problem to the ground, to actually act in a manner that began to mitigate the abuse levels, and to begin to bring some sanity back to the seminarians. Even so, his actions, and even those of his successor, were not wholly successful.

But if they'd been followed by another worthy successor, I'd be more confident that the JPII-Benedict reforms would have taken deep root and flourished for a long time to come.

Now, I'm not so sure.

Time will tell.


sitetest

25 posted on 01/27/2014 2:55:21 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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