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Churches being forced to preform gay marriage.
1/27/2014 | Darren Morrison

Posted on 01/27/2014 6:43:13 AM PST by RMrattlesnake

Churches being forced to preform gay marriage. Many Gay advocate groups try to assure that Churches will not be forced to preform gay marriages. But while they are saying this, law suits spring up in States that already have gay marriage. Once gay marriage is legal many will use the equal protect laws to force there will and Bible believing Christians on your church. I have always believed that gay marriage is being pushed to try to make them seem normal. To make homosexuality main stream and total accepted but most gay people see the Bible Christianity and many churches as a stumbling block for them. There already pro-gay churches all over the United States but that is not enough they want all churches to accept them and they want the bible changed to make them just like the rest of us. They have already changed many of the modern versions of the bible to be pro-gay like the NIV and NKJV among others. But that is not enough they want to ban the King James Bible the most popular version and worlds best seller ever. They want to make it against the law for churches to refuse to preform gay marriages. How did I come up with this information well quick internet searches will reveal news story of Gays suing churches that refuse to preform gay ceremonies regard less of Gay groups saying that will never happen it is already happening. In Canada it is illegal for preachers to preach out load verse deemed to be anti-gay. Saying certain verse in the bible could put men of GOD legal problems and the United Nations wants to adopt those hate speech laws worldwide. What can we do about it? Well the most important thing is to do is to spread the word to non-believers to tell everyone everywhere to repent that could change the tide. Other things you really need to do is place a statement into your bi-laws that you may only preform marriages what you believe they ought. Make sure to be very specific with your wording. Just saying it is in the bible will not hold up in courts. Courts are of the world not of GOD. Whether you are in a church building or a home church this should be done to prevent frivolous lawsuit to drain money from your church, this is an ever growing injustice of the left, finding people they do not agree with a sue them to rob people of money by using the courts.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: church; freedom; gay; homosexuality; vanity
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1 posted on 01/27/2014 6:43:13 AM PST by RMrattlesnake
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To: RMrattlesnake

Youve been around here long enough to know that articles need paragraph breaks and a link.


2 posted on 01/27/2014 6:45:03 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: RMrattlesnake
Churches being forced to preform gay marriage.

Name one church forced to perform gay marriage.

/johnny

3 posted on 01/27/2014 6:46:25 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: RMrattlesnake

They are not being forced.

They are being told they must do so to receive special tax-free status as a church.

Stop leaning on the government, you can do what you want.


4 posted on 01/27/2014 6:49:03 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: RMrattlesnake

Homosexual and leftists radicals have taken this one step at a time and NEVER give back a step taken. They will not stop until not only is homosexual “marriage” accepted but also approved. It is also clear that radical homosexuals will not coexist with Christianity. While Christians preach peace and tolerance, homosexuals attack using just the opposite tactics. Of course these radicals will be assigned to the pits of hell eventually, but it will be tough going for Christians until that happens.


5 posted on 01/27/2014 6:51:43 AM PST by armydawg505
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To: JRandomFreeper
He did not say churches are being forced to perform gay marriages. He said preform. I'm not sure what's involved there, but I'm sure it's different.
6 posted on 01/27/2014 6:51:50 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: RMrattlesnake

Sources?


7 posted on 01/27/2014 6:51:57 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: RMrattlesnake

What is the source? Is this a vanity?


8 posted on 01/27/2014 6:52:08 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: lowbridge; RMrattlesnake
Youve been around here long enough to know that articles need paragraph breaks and a link.

It's been months since he's posted anything. Maybe RMrattlesname (who I assume is also author Darren Morrison) forgot.

9 posted on 01/27/2014 6:53:11 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: RMrattlesnake

At first I thought it was a typo, but I’m seeing the word “preform” a lot here...


10 posted on 01/27/2014 6:53:33 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: RMrattlesnake

I’m sorry, but the NKJV is just as opposed to homosexuality as the KJV. In fact, it is actually a little more specific. For example, in 1 Cor. 6:9 the KJV refers to “the effeminate” not inheriting the kingdom of God, but the NKJV refers to them as “homosexuals”.

I don’t disagree that gays would like to make the Church bow to their will, but such hyperbole does not enhance your credibility.


11 posted on 01/27/2014 6:54:05 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: RMrattlesnake
pre·form transitive verb \ˈprē-ˌfȯrm, (ˌ)prē-ˈ\ Definition of PREFORM 1: to form or shape beforehand 2: to bring to approximate preliminary shape and size
12 posted on 01/27/2014 6:55:11 AM PST by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: RMrattlesnake

Scary spelling and grammar. I can see a day when churches won’t do weddings, in order to avoid this problem.


13 posted on 01/27/2014 6:55:33 AM PST by lurk
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To: BykrBayb
He did not say churches are being forced to perform gay marriages. He said preform. I'm not sure what's involved there, but I'm sure it's different.

It's a mutiny of deviated preverts!

14 posted on 01/27/2014 6:57:25 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: RMrattlesnake; JRandomFreeper
"Marriage" has a civil definition in many places, which at one time corresponded to the religious definition. "Holy Matrimony" has only a religious definition.

If churches refuse to perform anything other than services of Holy Matrimony, the State can do nothing about it.

Advise your congregation and pastor accordingly to make sure that your church by-laws are explicit on this point and there will be nothing a pair of faggots can do to make your church perform a service its bylaws do not provide for.

FReegards!

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15 posted on 01/27/2014 6:58:37 AM PST by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Alex Murphy

Preform? Doesn’t that have something to do with the pouring of concrete?


16 posted on 01/27/2014 6:59:41 AM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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To: maine yankee
They are being told they must do so to receive special tax-free status as a church.

I used to think that way too, but now that judges are requiring that pastry shops bake cakes, an photographers take pictures for gay weddings, I'm not sure if it's true anymore.

Even for-profit businesses aren't allowed to choose their clients anymore.

17 posted on 01/27/2014 7:01:06 AM PST by LSAggie
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To: Monitor

It gets passed the spell checker.


18 posted on 01/27/2014 7:06:31 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: RMrattlesnake

I don’t see this as a possibility or a problem. You would have to fight the Catholic Church on this, and they won’t marry or even bury someone who’s not OK with the church.


19 posted on 01/27/2014 7:08:00 AM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: maine yankee

Stop leaning on the government, you can do what you want.


Sure, you can. Just like the cake bakers in Oregon, and the photographers in New Mexico.


20 posted on 01/27/2014 7:08:44 AM PST by Red Boots
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To: RMrattlesnake

Nice essay. What grade is the pupil who wrote it in?


21 posted on 01/27/2014 7:10:04 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: RMrattlesnake

FYI

Vatican hires world’s leading pro-homosexual corporations as advisors

Randy Engel
January 1, 2014
Introduction
In their efforts to bring “transparency” and “efficiency” and “financial reform” to the Government of the Vatican City State (the “Governatorato”), Vatican officials have managed to completely ignore the lack of moral credentials of the mega firms they have hired to carry out these tasks including the world’s top pro-lesbian, “gay,” bisexual, transgender (LGBT) consulting firm of Ernest & Young, now formally known as EY. [1] Nor, apparently, did Ernest & Young officers volunteer this information before signing their formal contract with the Vatican to seal their lucrative consultation deal. Nor, apparently, did the leaders of the Homosexual Collective Internationale feel constrained to publicly denounce this well-advertised, but incredulous business arrangement between the alleged “homophobic” Roman Catholic Church and the London-based corporate giant of Ernest & Young, the world’s most “gay friendly” employer.


22 posted on 01/27/2014 7:18:54 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: RMrattlesnake
In order to get married in the Catholic Church a couple is required to go through pre-marrige classes (used to be called Pre-Cana).

I doubt whether a gay couple could stand it.

23 posted on 01/27/2014 7:21:12 AM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: RMrattlesnake

Mainstream Christianity will be deemed a “public accommodation,” is how the sodomites will force counterfeit marriage on even churches.

This is how they always do it.


24 posted on 01/27/2014 7:24:23 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: chicagolady
In their efforts to bring “transparency” and “efficiency” and “financial reform” to the Government of the Vatican City State (the “Governatorato”), Vatican officials have managed to completely ignore the lack of moral credentials of the mega firms they have hired to carry out these tasks including the world’s top pro-lesbian, “gay,” bisexual, transgender (LGBT) consulting firm of Ernest & Young, now formally known as EY.

What a tortured paragraph by RenewAmerica writer Randy Engel. Let's re-order it for clarity:

In their efforts to bring “transparency” and “efficiency” and “financial reform” to the Government of the Vatican City State (the “Governatorato”), Vatican officials have hired the mega firm Ernest & Young, now formally known as EY. The Vatican has managed to completely ignore EY's lack of moral credentials, as they are the world’s top pro-lesbian, “gay,” bisexual, transgender (LGBT) consulting firm.

25 posted on 01/27/2014 7:28:59 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: RMrattlesnake

In the Catholic Church the Holy Sacrament of Matrimony is one of the 7 sacraments, and the definition isn’t going to change....ever.
Queen Latifah and Madonna can sing in front of stained glass windows all they want - they can’t change a sacrament.


26 posted on 01/27/2014 7:32:48 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: maine yankee

You ever hear the saying “The Power to Tax is the Power to Destroy”?


27 posted on 01/27/2014 7:34:29 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: maine yankee

What we need are a lot more unregistered churches that don’t file anything with the IRS


28 posted on 01/27/2014 7:37:26 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

BINGO!!


29 posted on 01/27/2014 7:52:52 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: RMrattlesnake

Paragraphs, please.


30 posted on 01/27/2014 7:53:39 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: dfwgator

You ever hear the saying “The Power to Tax is the Power to Destroy”?

You ever hear the saying;

“There’s always free cheese in the trap.”


31 posted on 01/27/2014 7:56:53 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: GeronL
I'm willing to bet that there is a lawyer smart enough to figure a way around the tax status issue. If not, then render unto Cesar that which is Cesar's and render unto God that which is His. Or, as Joshua put it, “Choose you this day whom you will serve.”
32 posted on 01/27/2014 7:57:18 AM PST by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: RMrattlesnake

“What can we do about it? Well the most important thing is to do is to spread the word to non-believers to tell everyone everywhere to repent that could change the tide.”

I doubt just telling people to repent will “change the tide”. Somewhat naive. A better strategy is not to speak “at” people but engage them and love them.


33 posted on 01/27/2014 8:16:54 AM PST by plain talk
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To: armydawg505

With Barry Bathhouse in the White House the sodomite nazis have their greatest advocate. His goal has been since day one to destroy Christainity and force the radical sodomite agenda on the rest of us. From the US population as a whole, to the US Armed Forces, to the Boy Scouts, Barry Bathhouse is full steam ahead with his transformation of American - turning it into a Godless, sodomite, immoral nation, and he could care less who he destroys along the way.


34 posted on 01/27/2014 8:21:12 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: chicagolady

Please no more references from this Catholic-hating woman with a man’s name. In her eyes all Popes are homosexuals and 100% of Catholic priests are homosexuals. She has an abnormal, twisted facination with homosexuality and sees one behind every tree.


35 posted on 01/27/2014 8:24:45 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Alex Murphy

Has this woman with a man’s name ever wrote one word about sexual abuse among any other faith other than Catholicism? If she has I have never saw it.


36 posted on 01/27/2014 8:26:19 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: RMrattlesnake

these Homosexual groups have destroyed everything they try to control.


37 posted on 01/27/2014 8:39:36 AM PST by chatham
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To: NKP_Vet

Actually You are wrong.

I first DOUBLE CHECKED the article with the Head of the Catholic Right to Life Group in Illinois She is the Director and a very wonderful lady.

I sent her an e-mail and asked IS ANY OF THIS TRUE?

She took a week to wright me back and said,

I am afraid so,...It Is True.


38 posted on 01/27/2014 8:41:01 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: maine yankee

“Stop leaning on the government, you can do what you want.”

Private business are not free to do what they want when it comes to who they serve/don’t serve.


39 posted on 01/27/2014 8:43:44 AM PST by Hulka
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To: NKP_Vet; RMrattlesnake
Has this woman with a man’s name ever wrote one word about sexual abuse among any other faith other than Catholicism? If she has I have never saw it.

Considering that Darren Morrison became a FReeper about ten years before you did, that's not surprising.

40 posted on 01/27/2014 8:54:20 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: RMrattlesnake

Someday someone will sue the Catholic church for not performing gay “marriages.”


41 posted on 01/27/2014 8:55:43 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: chicagolady

That would be Ernst & Young, not Ernest.


42 posted on 01/27/2014 9:13:35 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

They are actually starting this in New Zealand. And there’s a lawsuit at the high court in Britain lodged by two homosexual millionaires.


43 posted on 01/27/2014 9:14:27 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Hulka

Read the constitution. The government has zero authority on who businesses serve. Any laws that say as much are unconstitutional.


44 posted on 01/27/2014 9:15:38 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon
It hasn't happened here, contrary to the first sentence of the article.

/johnny

45 posted on 01/27/2014 9:16:34 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Gamecock

Preforming is a preverted thing.
Preverting up the the language I spose.


46 posted on 01/27/2014 9:21:58 AM PST by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: chicagolady

I could care less what somebody said in Illinois. Read any of the man with a man’s name works and tell me if she does not have an abnormal fixation with homosexuality and please show me where she has ever written an article taking about sex abuse in any other church other than the Catholic Church.


47 posted on 01/27/2014 9:23:31 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Alex Murphy

I’m taking about the Catholic Church-hating RANDY Engel.


48 posted on 01/27/2014 9:28:03 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Viennacon

Read the constitution.

14th Amendment and all that nonsense.

Have a nice day.

Moving on. . .


49 posted on 01/27/2014 9:34:57 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

So, if they passed an amendment putting people in concentration camps, that would be constitutional?

If the Founders had wanted the government to force businesses to serve customers, they would have mentioned it, heck they probably would have just stuck with Britain. Like the prohibition, this amendment was full of BS and it actually laid the groundwork for Roe V Wade.

Supporting the concept of government dictating who businesses serve is a communistic view. Have you signed up with CPUSA yet?


50 posted on 01/27/2014 9:45:25 AM PST by Viennacon
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