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See the First Photographs Ever Taken of Jerusalem
Smithsonian.com ^ | 1/23/14 | Rose Eveleth

Posted on 01/31/2014 6:39:02 PM PST by marshmallow

Since 1844, millions of photographs have probably been taken of Jerusalem. But these blurry snaps are the very first.

Few places in the world are as revered, fought over and thought about as Jerusalem. For millenia, people have made pilgrimages here, often at great expense and great risk. So imagine for a second what it would be like to hear, from a young age, about this holy city, and then to see the first photographs ever taken of it:

These photos come from 1844 and were taken by French photographer Joseph-Philibert Girault de Prangey. According to Retronaut, they weren’t discovered until the 1920s, in a store room on Girault’s estate. Retronaut adds:

(Excerpt) Read more at smithsonianmag.com ...


TOPICS: General Discusssion; History
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; israel; letshavejerusalem

1 posted on 01/31/2014 6:39:02 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

The lens is surprisingly sharp in the center.


2 posted on 01/31/2014 6:46:00 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: marshmallow

Is there a current photograph shot from the same spot?

Is there any way of determining where that picture was taken from?


3 posted on 01/31/2014 6:48:57 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: marshmallow

Mark Twain in the Holy Land
Mark Twain visited Israel in 1867, and published his impressions in Innocents Abroad. He described a desolate country – devoid of both vegetation and human population:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

He was amazed by the smallness of the city of Jerusalem:

“A fast walker could go outside the walls of Jerusalem and walk entirely around the city in an hour. I do not know how else to make one understand how small it is.”

And he described the Temple Mount thus:

“The mighty Mosque of Omar, and the paved court around it, occupy a fourth part of Jerusalem. They are upon Mount Moriah, where King Solomon’s Temple stood. This Mosque is the holiest place the Mohammedan knows, outside of Mecca. Up to within a year or two past, no christian could gain admission to it or its court for love or money. But the prohibition has been removed, and we entered freely for bucksheesh.”


4 posted on 01/31/2014 6:49:40 PM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: metmom

Looks like the al-Aqsa mosque. Photo probably taken from just outside the walls of the old city.


5 posted on 01/31/2014 6:53:00 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

This was the beginning.....when the Arabs started photobombing Israel.


6 posted on 01/31/2014 6:56:10 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: marshmallow

I googled it up and it looks like you’re right.

However, it looks like the angle for the pictures is different because in every other picture, the tower is to the left of the mosque instead of to the right of it.

Unless this picture was developed backwards.


7 posted on 01/31/2014 6:58:56 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: marshmallow

Interesting.


8 posted on 01/31/2014 7:23:35 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: metmom
I think it is the Western Wall, with the mosque behind it... compare to this modern pic:


9 posted on 01/31/2014 7:28:59 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: marshmallow

“If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one quarter of one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous puff of star dust lost in the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk.

“His contributions to the world’s list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine and abstruse learning are also very out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world in all ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself and be excused for it. The Egyptians, the Babylonians and the Persians rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greeks and Romans followed and made a vast noise, and they were gone; other people have sprung up and held their torch high for a time but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, and have vanished.

“The Jew saw them all, survived them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmaties, of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert but aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jews; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?”

—Mark Twain, September 1897


10 posted on 01/31/2014 7:31:51 PM PST by ShasheMac (Be still and know that I am God. Psa;m 46:10)
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To: yarddog
the apparent blurriness at the edges of the frame are due to discolorization and darkening

the midtones...at the extremieties [particularly on the left side of the print became the considerably darker with age.

I ran this through a number of procedures...including making a monotone copy. The lens was actually quite edge to edge razor sharp

part of the sense that the edges werent that sharp is also based on the unatural color the print has taken on with age.

the Only difference between the two images in this short animation is that one retains the colorization and the other doesnt.


11 posted on 01/31/2014 7:34:52 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: ShasheMac

What a nice tribute!


12 posted on 01/31/2014 7:35:46 PM PST by uncitizen (Obama said 'period', but he meant 'asterisk'.)
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To: metmom
Most pictures are probably taken from the courtyard, looking out, but this one was taken from outside the courtyard, looking in. Check out this drawing of the layout:

For the tower to be in that place in the photo, to the right and in front of the mosque, then the photo was taken from somewhere all the way on the left side of the drawing, about 2/3 of the way up.

13 posted on 01/31/2014 7:36:37 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: metmom

It’s not uncommon for photos from that era to be mirror imaged, one such was the reason people thought Billy the kid was left handed!


14 posted on 01/31/2014 7:38:56 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

See the First Photographs Ever Taken of Jerusalem


15 posted on 01/31/2014 7:45:38 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Boogieman; metmom

If you google Al Aqsa minaret, you get a picture of a square tower, the same one that you can see to the left at the edge of the modern picture. I don’t know what happened to the round minaret from the old pic, it doesn’t seem to exist today. I insist, it looks like the picture is showing the Western Wall with the Temple Mount behind it!


16 posted on 01/31/2014 7:45:46 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Former Fetus


17 posted on 01/31/2014 7:52:18 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: marshmallow

bump


18 posted on 01/31/2014 7:53:54 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: marshmallow

Fascinating. Thanks for posting.


19 posted on 01/31/2014 7:55:20 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: ShasheMac
What is the secret of his immortality?

God, and their faith in Him.

20 posted on 01/31/2014 8:23:34 PM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: Boogieman

fascinating

but that isn’t the only photo


21 posted on 01/31/2014 8:31:57 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Former Fetus

That sure looks like the same shot.

Thanks.


22 posted on 01/31/2014 8:58:33 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Boogieman

That looks about right. Thanks.


23 posted on 01/31/2014 9:06:35 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Former Fetus

On the drawing I posted, I just noticed there are 2 minarets/towers. One to the left, and one at the bottom. So maybe some pictures are catching different ones?


24 posted on 01/31/2014 11:19:01 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: SunkenCiv

For reference.


25 posted on 01/31/2014 11:21:59 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Boogieman; Eleutheria5
Actually we are talking about 2 mosques, Al Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock, therefore there should be 2 minarets. Look at your drawing, the one at the bottom is too far to the right to show up in the 1844 picture.

Eleutheria, what do you think? You live in Israel and go to Jerusalem frequently. What do you think the old picture is showing? I'll take your word as the correct answer.

26 posted on 02/01/2014 7:00:21 AM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: diverteach

I’d’ve made mention of Twain’s trip if you hadn’t.

Thanks.


27 posted on 02/01/2014 8:15:16 AM PST by onedoug
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To: marshmallow

Great info- thanks

Bkmk


28 posted on 02/01/2014 9:23:12 AM PST by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: diverteach

At the time, the land was very underpopulated. As I recall, Twain made some comments in the book that were very critical of the Muslim inhabitants.


29 posted on 02/01/2014 9:36:25 AM PST by wildbill
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To: Jet Jaguar; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks Jet Jaguar.

30 posted on 02/01/2014 6:46:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

those pics make the place look old


31 posted on 02/01/2014 6:47:57 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Former Fetus

The old photograph and the new photograph definitely seem to be flipped. (mirror images of each other)


32 posted on 02/01/2014 6:53:37 PM PST by madison10
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To: madison10
Here is the flipped version:


33 posted on 02/01/2014 7:35:12 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

I Don’t believe the original is flipped. I think the Minaret in the picture is no longer there.


34 posted on 02/01/2014 7:38:01 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: diverteach

Am I a racist hater to want that ugly desolation of a mosque torn down, and the Temple restored, as well as want the Hagia Sophia in Constantinople turned back into a Christian cathedral?


35 posted on 02/01/2014 7:44:22 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: P-Marlowe

I wasn’t looking at the minaret, I was looking at the angle of the building edge on the Dome of the Rock.


36 posted on 02/01/2014 7:50:10 PM PST by madison10
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To: marshmallow; KC_Lion

Thank you so much.


37 posted on 02/01/2014 7:51:56 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: madison10

I was looking at the Western Wall. If you flip the picture, the Mosque would be on the south side of the Western Wall, but it is on the north side.


38 posted on 02/01/2014 7:56:30 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: onyx; marshmallow
Amazing!

I pine to visit Jerusalem!

One Day I would Love to Live in Israel... :(

39 posted on 02/01/2014 7:58:43 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

One day you likely shall!

One day, I would just love to visit Israel and pray at the Wailing Wall.


40 posted on 02/01/2014 8:03:10 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx
I Hope So!

I will be honored by your presence visiting the Western Wall. G-dly women go there, which you are onyx!

(((HUGS)))

41 posted on 02/01/2014 8:06:49 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

Oh gosh!
(Serious blushing, I’ not worthy)
I really want to pray there!


42 posted on 02/01/2014 8:13:49 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

Don’t ask me how I know....just don’t stumble into the wrong side of the wailing wall - for your gender. They will give you the business!


43 posted on 02/01/2014 8:27:05 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

ROTFLOLOL.
I bet I can guess, but I won’t.
I’m just hoping and praying I will one day manage to get there.
God bless and keep you, dearest RFEngineer!


44 posted on 02/01/2014 9:25:11 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I second that.


45 posted on 02/01/2014 10:11:06 PM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: Alas Babylon!

“Am I a racist hater to want that ugly desolation of a mosque torn down, and the Temple restored, as well as want the Hagia Sophia in Constantinople turned back into a Christian cathedral?”

It’s okay to hate evil, and the mooselimbs are at great pains to make the world aware of how many races are represented in their blood cult. It’s a cult, not a race.


46 posted on 02/01/2014 11:28:23 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: diverteach

bucksheesh — I have learned a new word. Thanks.


47 posted on 02/02/2014 8:42:08 AM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: Bigg Red
That was Twain's phonetic spelling.

According to Wiki:

Baksheesh (from Persian: بخشش‎ bakhshesh[1]) is tipping, charitable giving, and certain forms of political corruption and bribery in the Middle East and South Asia.

Origins and usage[edit]

Baksheesh comes from the Persian word بخشش (bakhshesh), which originated from the Pahlavi (Middle Iranian) language.[2] It is further traced back to Sanskrit "Bhiksha" or "Bheeks" which has the same meaning.

The word had also moved westward. In the Albanian, Serbian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Russian, Macedonian, and Turkish languages, bakshish or бакшиш means "tip" in the conventional western sense. In Greek, μπαξίσι (baksisi) can mean a gift in general. In German and French, Bakschisch is a small bribe (in Romanian as well, depending on the context; usually employed as a euphemism to şpagă, which means outright bribe).

48 posted on 02/02/2014 1:11:38 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

Thanks for that info.


49 posted on 02/02/2014 4:00:40 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: All
Many more here: http://www.israeldailypicture.com/


50 posted on 02/03/2014 7:14:17 AM PST by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight of Faith")
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