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We must stand up for Middle East's persecuted Christians
Fox News ^ | 1-31-14 | Johnnie Moore

Posted on 02/01/2014 1:59:38 PM PST by ReformationFan

Christianity began in the East, not the West, yet today Christians in the East are enduring an all-out-assault by Islamic terrorists, while Christians in the West live their lives largely oblivious to it all. This has to change.

This is no imaginary persecution; in Syria alone there have been reports of kidnappings, Christian communities intentionally displaced by militants and, worst of all, shootings and beheadings of Christians who refused to convert to Islam.

In Egypt radicals have recently destroyed dozens of churches, and the once vibrant Christian population in Iraq has been decimated.

Christians in the West should stand up for those in the East out of regard for all they have given us over these thousands of years, if for no other reason.

See, what most American Christians don’t realize is that the “Islamic World” was once the Christian world. Some of the most well-known and influential leaders in the early church hailed from North Africa and the Middle East – like the warring theologians Athanasius and Arius, and the apologist Tertullian. It was for the library in Alexandria that the preeminent Greek version of the Torah (the “Septuagint”) was commissioned.

Today, St. Augustine would be called a Tunisian, Origen would be Egyptian and the Apostle Paul – who was on the road to Damascus when he encountered Christ – would have told the story of his conversion while heading to “Syria.”

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: athanasius; augustine; christians; egypt; johnniemoore; middleeast; moore; neareast; origen; religiouspersecution; syria; tertullian; tunisia

1 posted on 02/01/2014 1:59:38 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

It is interesting that it is the Russian Orthodox Church along other “Eastern” churches which have given the persecuted church aid and assistance, while the US churches stay hung up on social issues and turn a blind eye to suffering Christians in the Mideast and North Africa - and elsewhere. Shame on us!!!


2 posted on 02/01/2014 2:07:38 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: ReformationFan

Yes I’m all for it. But will be very hard to do with Obammy Arming, training, defending , and funding the islamoNazi gangs and regimes


3 posted on 02/01/2014 2:08:48 PM PST by faithhopecharity (C?)
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To: ReformationFan

Absolutely right.


4 posted on 02/01/2014 2:09:24 PM PST by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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To: ReformationFan

Just yesterday a bunch of those persecuted Christian leaders got together and made a collective announcement begging the USA to stop funding and supporting militants in Syria.

Don’t think anyone is listening.
Obama, McCain and Graham sure don’t care about them.


5 posted on 02/01/2014 2:10:24 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: elpadre

Perhaps it’s a job best left for the Russians.

They don’t have to endure the PC crap, like we do in this country.


6 posted on 02/01/2014 2:13:11 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Mount Athos

Which is why it SEEMS we’re oblivious to the problem, but the truth is ... we have our own attacks here to deal with and the commie administration will do nothing to stop Christian persecution anywhere.


7 posted on 02/01/2014 2:14:34 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: elpadre

What social issues are American churches ‘hung up’ on? Other than catering to the amnesty nonsense, I don’t see anything of substance.

But you are correct. This has largely been swept under the rug; little to no indignation at all it seems. Not sure to what extent Pope Francis has chimed in. I haven’t heard/read too much on that.


8 posted on 02/01/2014 2:14:56 PM PST by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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To: sauropod

read


9 posted on 02/01/2014 2:30:01 PM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: ReformationFan

We’re too busy arguing on the religion forum on FR to get involved.


10 posted on 02/01/2014 3:06:28 PM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Mount Athos

If all the churches here contacted all of the senators and congressman would that make a difference?


11 posted on 02/01/2014 4:03:46 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Mount Athos
Just yesterday a bunch of those persecuted Christian leaders got together and made a collective announcement begging the USA to stop funding and supporting militants in Syria.

If the Alawite Assad falls, there won't be any protecion for minorities like Christians. The Sunnis will wipe them out eventually.

Ghadafi in Libya; Mubarack in Egypt; Saadam Hussein in Iraq:all protected Christians,and other minorities
. Assad in Syria is still in power, but if he goes, and the Sunnis take over, the Christians are done.- Tom

12 posted on 02/01/2014 4:19:25 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: elpadre

Yes, this is so unbelievable! I request prayer for persecuted Christians at church, but one has to ALWAYS add that to the list, it is not routine. It’s almost as if they are saying, “we’ve done that already!” I feel really ashamed that America, once the beacon of light and sending thousands of missionaries to the ends of the world is now too stingy to pray for persecuted Christians living in other countries. Amazing what apathy and even a small amount of affluence can do to one. Yes, affluence. When one is poor, one sees the poor and has pity on them. When one has come up a little in the world and can now buy about anything needed and afford some pleasure, then our sense of feeling compassion is tempered by our apathy and not wanting to be disturbed. Been there, myself, and I see it every day. Can we really say we are true believers if we do not love our brethren?


13 posted on 02/01/2014 5:43:48 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: ReformationFan

Whether you like Bob Beckel or not he has been very vocal about whats happening to Christians in the middle east and Africa. One Time I heard him go on a rant about the Christians being slaughtered in Africa and how none of the major news organizations were covering it.


14 posted on 02/01/2014 5:44:02 PM PST by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: ReformationFan; daniel1212; GarySpFc; boatbums; metmom; CynicalBear; Iscool

Part of the problem these Christian communities face is the inability to defend themselves. This is due to centuries of Dhimmitude relying on despots for protection.

So what are we to do, we Western Christians? For starts stop supporting the murderers of Christians; second send them physical support, which is difficult given our government supports the tormentors and is opposed to the despot who protects the Christians.

Do we form a Christian type foreign legion of former military and Veterans to infiltrate Syria and form defensive perimeters for the Syrian Christians?

Just some thoughts, but for starts let’s stop supporting the Jihadis who are killing our brothers and sisters.


15 posted on 02/01/2014 5:58:33 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Capt. Tom

Tom you are correct. The despots for years protected Christian communities because they ultimately were afraid of US presidents and kept their Jihadis in line as a result. Now the demons are loose with no restraint and no fear of Russia or the West.

Centuries of Dhimmitude in these Muslim countries have left Christians without the means to defend themselves. If we are to take in refugees, Arab Christians should be the focus.


16 posted on 02/01/2014 6:07:02 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

That is a tuff one isn’t it. Unless a majority of this country is followers of Christ I think there is nothing Christians can do other than pray for brothers and sisters in those areas.


17 posted on 02/01/2014 6:12:21 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Shery

Amen Shery.


18 posted on 02/01/2014 6:14:05 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: CynicalBear

If you lived nearby and a bunch of Jihadis were pounding on the door wanting to kill you and the cops refused to help, you can be reassured I would come over and help.


19 posted on 02/01/2014 6:17:31 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Shery

“..even a small amount of affluence can do to one..”

True to a point, although it is the well off who are the biggest givers to charities, including the church. I believe the heavy leftist influence in the church today plays a major role. As a general rule the left are takers whereas the right are givers, IMO.


20 posted on 02/01/2014 6:35:26 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Shery

Very well said, Shery.


21 posted on 02/01/2014 6:49:41 PM PST by ShasheMac (Be still and know that I am God. Psa;m 46:10)
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To: BBell

WE must look into what we can do—list what organizations are really helping—where funds will go to these churches and groups. America should be ready to send troops to defend Christians in these parts of the world. We need to counter the Wahabists radicals who preach a hate Christians message—We need to counter these arguements with another call in Islam. Yes, Russia should send troops in to defend Christians—we should send aid to help Egyptian Copts to rebuild their churches burned by radicals.


22 posted on 02/01/2014 10:57:24 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: elpadre

we are under attack right here at home


23 posted on 02/02/2014 7:57:04 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: redleghunter
Tom you are correct. The despots for years protected Christian communities because they ultimately were afraid of US presidents and kept their Jihadis in line as a result. Now the demons are loose with no restraint and no fear of Russia or the West

At least the Russians are on Assad's side which offers the Christians some protection.
The Egyptian army is right now, one of the few groups that is holding off the inevitable slaughter of Christians in Egypt.
If the fundamental Sunni Muslims take over anywhere, any Infidel will have to convert to Islam or be killed.
Nothing personal, but that's what God (Allah) wants done. Read the Koran and Hadiths for further clarification and edification. -Tom

24 posted on 02/02/2014 11:32:17 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom

If they were truly following the Qur’an the Muslims would be leaving the Christians alone other than exacting a tax. However as you note there are conflicting passages in the Hadith.


25 posted on 02/02/2014 11:54:50 AM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter
If they were truly following the Qur’an the Muslims would be leaving the Christians alone other than exacting a tax. However as you note there are conflicting passages in the Hadith.

Some of these Christian and other Infidel groups have been in these countries for centuries. It is pretty obvious these subjugated Infidels are not going to convert to Islam. Time has proven that.
What the Infidels will do, is breed and swell their numbers in the midst of the Muslim community. So a final solution will have to be done.
As you stated earlier the Muslims are not worried about outsiders opinions anymore.
The Germans did it to the Jews, and they weren't doing God's work. From their point of view, the Muslims have the best reason in the world to exterminate us Infidels, and they are willing to lose their lives in the process.

This isn't about what you or I believe, it is about what they believe. They are willing to give up their lives and wealth to do God's bidding. -Tom

26 posted on 02/02/2014 12:10:22 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: elpadre

WHAT SIDE IS OBAMA?

From Obama’s Audacity of Hope: ‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’

Is Obama really Christian or a taqiyya, or false convert from Islam?

Christians are being murdered nonstop by Muslims in Nigeria, Sudan, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Tanzania, Philippines. Every five minutes, somewhere in the Muslim world, a Christian is being killed just for being a Christian. It is mind-numbing violence and slaughter of Christians in Muslim-majority countries. Sub-Saharan Africa is certainly a major site of jihad on churches, and Nigeria is especially a tragic place. In September 2011 for example, Muslims hacked to death thousands of Christians, including many children and pregnant women. A 79-year-old Christian woman had her throat slit in her home.

Did Obama ever tried to stop or at less condemned those egregious crimes against humanity? Does Obama ignore those crimes because de victims are Christians and the murderers are Islamic fanatics?


27 posted on 02/13/2014 11:56:04 AM PST by Dqban22
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