Skip to comments.Harvesting Conciliar “fruits”: half of adults polled think Harry Potter ... could be Biblical
Posted on 02/12/2014 5:46:35 PM PST by markomalley
It often seems that, these days, the odds are never in our favor.
I take time out from my furious conference preparation (on art coming up in Detroit) to present something that only confirms the great fruits of Vatican II and the magnificent benefits we have gained from decades of liberal Left domination of Catholic education, the breakdown of clear preaching, the erosion of the family, timidclerical oversight, shabby liturgical worship unworthy of the name .
First on display, this (biretta tip Pewsitter) comes from WND:
POLL: HUNGER GAMES, HARRY POTTER ARE BIBLICAL
Stunning results also reveal 1 in 3 dont know Nativity is in Scripture
A new poll conducted by the Bible Society reveals that more than half of the adults who responded believe The Hunger Games are biblical and one in three say Harry Potter could be a storyline from the sacred text.
While these statistics may appear surprising at first glance, they are symptomatic of the fact that many children indicate they have never read, seen or even heard these stories, the poll of respondents from the United Kingdom explained.
Of the parents questioned, 46 percent did not recognize that the account of Noahs Ark comes from the Bible, according to the results of the January survey of 800 children ages eight to 15 and 1,000 parents.
The survey was taken in preparation for the launch of the organizations Pass It On campaign which is intended to raise the level of knowledge about the Bible.
How about your kids? How about your kids at home and in Catholic schools?
Do they know more about Harry Potters family and story than their own forebears in the history of salvation, their own Christian family presented in the pages of Scripture and in the lives of the saints?
Next up, this is from the Cardinal Newman Society (which has a great RRS feed on the right side-bar of this blog!):
Students Tout 15 Years of V-Monologues as Play Continues on Several Catholic Campuses
At least 10 Catholic colleges and universities will be hosting productions of The Vagina Monologues or have officially recognized student groups that are performing the play in 2014, The Cardinal Newman Society has learned. Many of the institutions with connections to the play in 2014 have reportedly hosted the play in past years, and students from at least one institution are advertising 15 years of performances.
The Monologues seriously distorts human sexuality and celebrates sinful behaviors, including lesbian activity and masturbation. One scene even declares a lesbian rape of a teenage girl her salvation which raised her into a kind of heaven. The plays production on Catholic campuses has been criticized by several bishops.
While critics of the play have acknowledged that it is often used as a fundraiser to support womens shelters or AIDS research, they have cited the inappropriateness of using the play as a fundraising vehicle, especially at Catholic universities.
The Newman Society has closely monitored showings of the play on Catholic campuses for several years. In 2003, the number of campuses with performances of the play reached a high of 32.
The Society has discovered that at least 10 Catholic institutions are hosting or have recognized student groups performing the Monologues in 2014.
The College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Mass., [...] Georgetown University Womens Center in Washington, D.C., [...] DePaul University in Chicago, Ill., [...] Bellarmine University in Louisville, Ky., [... ] Saint Louis University (Mo.) [...] Fordham University (N.Y.) [...]Loyola University New Orleans (La.) [...] Loyola University Chicago (Ill.) [...] Saint Marys College of California [...] Seattle University (Wash.) [...] Santa Clara Universitys [...]
A few Jesuit schools there, no?
One theology course offered at Santa Clara during the Winter semester titled The Christian Tradition even required students to read Boston College professor Cathleen Kavenys defense entitled Be Not Afraid: The Vagina Monologues on Catholic Campuses.
Go there and see the actual descriptions of the productions at the schools listed above.
We have so much to be proud of, thanks to a couple generations of bishops and priests and Catholic educators.
Faithful dissent? Catholic school board sponsors lecture on how to oppose Church moral teachings
KITCHENER, Ontario, February 11, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) An Ontario Catholic school board sponsored a lecture last week [damage is done] focused on how Catholic schools can value faithful dissent as a way of opposing Catholic teaching on ordination, homosexuality, and contraception. [Because we need more dissent? Right?]
The Waterloo Catholic District School Board sponsored Graham McDonough, PhD, to speak at St. Jeromes University (SJU) Friday night as part of the Universitys lecture series on Catholic Experience.
Catholic schools often find themselves dealing with disagreements with Church teaching [and rather than teach they cave...] on topics such as ordination, homosexuality, and contraception as well as with complaints that schools are not properly teaching doctrine, reads a description of the lecture, titled Faithful Disagreement: an opportunity for rediscovery in Catholic education.
This lecture proposes that Catholic schools can do more to include and nurture internal disagreement as a powerful opportunity to embrace intellectual diversity, learn the value of faithful dissent and enable greater participation in the Church and the world. [Total B as in B, S as in S.]
McDonough, an assistant professor of education and an associate fellow at the Centre for Studies in Religion and Society at the University of Victoria, released a book in 2012 titled Beyond Obedience and Abandonment: Toward a Theory of Dissent in Catholic Education.
McDonough draws heavily on dissident theologians Profs. Thomas Groome and Gregory Baum. Both are laicized priests, and Baum is called by some Canadas leading dissenter since the 1960s.
What could possibly go wrong?
This is being peddled with the implicit approval of the pastors whose God-entrusted responsibility it is to guard the flock precisely from this sort of dreck.
Friends what we have here is:
Reason #20 for Summorum Pontificum.
Thank you, Benedict XVI. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
The church has lost its salt.
You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.
Such solid understanding of Catholic Theology! LOL which is really not funny at all.
“1 in 3 dont know Nativity is in Scripture”
Nativity... isn’t that some kind of white chocolate candy?
Ok, on a more serious note:
Pastors would be amazed at how little their members know. One pastor was curious as to how his people knew the Bible so he made up a test. When the results came back they were so dismal he nearly resigned.
A Bible teacher was teaching about Paul and mentioned that Paul’s name had been Saul. One member asked: “Paul was Saul? Was this before or after he tried to kill David?” Not joking. I was there.
That's not so bad, just off by a millennium or so. I had a lady, mid 50's, in church for a long time, once told me in Sunday School about how her deceased father was an angel now.
Among the questions asked in the Vatican survey are whether gay marriage is recognised in their respective countries and how priests minister to same-sex couples, including how churches can respond when gays seek a religious education or Holy Communion for their children. The survey also asks, 'How is God's mercy proclaimed' to separated couples and those who are divorced and remarried. Additional information is sought on the pastoral care of men and women who live together outside marriage. The survey also asks parishes whether they believe married men and women tend to follow church teaching barring the use of artificial contraception.
This right here is one of the prime reasons I wrote my book “Bible Stories for Grown-Ups”. Our people in the pews don’t even know what the stories of the Bible are.
“The church has lost its salt.”
Thankfully that can never happen. God allows some in the Church to commit apostasy, but the Church can’t.
Well, the Church seems to have, at least, lost its salt in the Sacrament of Baptism. Along with losing exorcisms.
Not the Church, just most parishes. We still have the old rite at my parish. Thus, the Church has it as well.
So most Catholic parishes have lost some of their salt. Correct?
If you’re silly enough to take anything written in the Tablet seriously, well, there’s not too much anybody can do for you.
“So most Catholic parishes have lost some of their salt. Correct?”
No. Most parishes don’t use the old rite. They haven’t lost their salt. They don’t use salt in their rites. There’s a difference.
Half of adults are morons
Wait... so you’re telling me there was no Pope Dumbledor?
and we can't criticize it without being called anti-Catholic right?
Any fiction can be analyzed in the light of Scripture. Of course, that means one has to read Scripture over and over again, first. Come to my house and study popular fiction. There’s plenty of That Casserole With the Beans Again.
We’ve been reading Genesis again recently. Read Genesis with an open mind and don’t become a gibbering feminist, I dare you. Do you have any idea what (deleted, redacted, oh did I say that) Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were?
And then look at what that unutterable imperialist sharper Joseph did to the peasants of Egypt!
“Thankfully that can never happen. God allows some in the Church to commit apostasy, but the Church cant”
You are right. Jesus, the Groom is coming for His bride, the church, soon and very soon!
The Tablet is not exaggerating. So who's being silly?