Posted on 02/16/2014 9:39:17 PM PST by restornu
I don’t recall any of them (OT Prophets)involved in...
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LOLFOTF you are so funny you don’t call, LOL
how could you recall, you did live back than..
...nor is there any history outside of the Scriptures, of any of their trials and tribulations with life, their weaknesses, or with the public...
...nor is there any history outside of the Scriptures, of any of their trials and tribulations with life, their weaknesses, or with the public...
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Youre never heard of Josephus ???
or Hammurabi...
Or any of the Persian historians ???
or the Greeks or Romans who lived and wrote about the Hebrews and early Jews and Israel and Christians up to 100AD ???
Is there that much of a block on reality in Mormonism ???
Sorry; but using MORMON 'scripture' to prove Mormon scripture is circular logic.
scriptures say otherwise it was spirit of the Lord that came upon Joseph Smith
Sorry; but using MORMON ‘scripture’ to prove Mormon scripture is circular logic.
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Says who... bad people could say the same thing about the Bible, but it does not make it true...
bad people could say the same thing about the Bible
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Well yes the Mormons do say nasty things about the Bible..
but we don’t need the fictitious book of Mormon to prove the Bible is true..
and the Bible proves that the book of Mormon is not true...
Oh, but let’s assume for a moment that there was a “history”...do you presume to tell me that they would have engaged in such behavior while being prophets of God? Do you presume to allege that they engaged in adulterous affairs, fraud and uttering false prophecies while prophets of God?
JS stopped doing the things he did after he claimed to be a prophet, didn’t he?
Oh wait, he didn’t. In fact, he grew even more drunk with power and further abused the innocent and ignorant folks who were seduced by mormonism.
And yet, instead of accepting the truth about JS, you decide it’s time to slander men of God in JS’s defense...sad.
Good people have quoted FACTS about Mormonism; but you don't think they're true.
Go figger.
Go figger.
Go figger.
I see your memo is still post-it noted to your monitor...
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Office of First President & Living Prophet®: February 2nd, 2014
URGENT! It's been noted there has been a DRASTIC falloff in the number of MORMONs who actually can (or will) engage in opposing ANTIs on FreeRepulic (spit!) I am forced to re-issue and old memo you all received about 3 years ago.
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The
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 71:1
... the time has verily come that it is necessary and expedient in me that you should open your mouths in proclaiming my gospel,
the things of the kingdom, expounding the mysteries thereof out of the scriptures,
according to that portion of Spirit and power which shall be given unto you, even as I will.
It’s where all starts restornu...the source, the very essence of all that is wrong with mormonism...the mere fact of the plagiarizing of King James English into a book that was supposedly written hundreds of years earlier...the false translation of the Book of Abraham...the false prophecy about a temple being built, the adultery, the fraud, the scams, using pagan talismans, etc.
Face the facts...the temple rites in LDS temples are not of God...this has been shown to you, that they were created by men.
This alone should tell you that the premise SLC puts before you that your exaltation is in jeopardy if you do not get a temple recommend and take out your “endowments”. But the “endowments” are man made tradition as you say...something you can’t tolerate and excoriate Christianity over...yet, here are the mormons doing the very thing you claim to stand against. Cognitive dissonance.
Who was responsible for those “rites” and then levying the requirement? JS...a wanna be, boy king prophet who played with “strange fire”...I do hold him directly responsible for the many who are held in the grip of mormonism.
It’s not sour grapes, it’s just a simple fact...he is responsible and so I will not grant one iota of respect to the man, what he has done, or what he represents.
Much of what you like to think is true to malign JS with is hearsay, different points of view of how to process information etc.
Nothing was plagiarized there are some passages the wording was not from KJV at all, but was more accurate than the KJV translation, and there was no way JS would have that knowledge, so how do you explain that about an unlearned farm boy?
HEARSAY, trying to make a buck on the estate sale 58 yrs later.
This tale about JS so called talismans came 58 years after the death of Emma.
Anderson noted that Bidamon waited fifty-eight years after Emma’s death to make his certification, and notes that at the time of her death he was only fifteen years old.
Durham based his comments on Wood's description for the item which was: "This piece [the Talisman] was in Joseph Smith's pocket when he was martyred at Carthage Jail."[6] However, a list of the items in Joseph's possession at the time of his death was provided to Emma following the martyrdom. On this list there was no mention made of any Talisman-like item. If there had been such an article, it ought to have been listed.
In 1984, Anderson located and published the itemized list of the contents of Joseph Smith's pockets at his death.
The list was originally published in 1885 in Iowa by James W. Woods, Smith's lawyer, who collected the prophet's personal effects after the Martyrdom.
The contents from the published 1885 printing are as follows: Received, Nauvoo, Illinois, July 2, 1844, of James W. Woods, one hundred and thirty- five dollars and fifty cents in gold and silver and receipt for shroud, one gold finger ring, one gold pen and pencil case, one penknife, one pair of tweezers, one silk and one leather purse, one small pocket wallet containing a note of John P. Green for $50, and a receipt of Heber C. Kimball for a note of hand on Ellen M. Saunders for one thousand dollars, as the property of Joseph Smith. - Emma Smith.[7]
No Talisman or item like it is listed. It could not be mistaken for a coin or even a "Masonic Jewel" as Durham first thought. Anderson described the Talisman as being “an inch-and-a-half in diameter and covered with symbols and a prayer on one side and square of sixteen Hebrew characters on the other.”[8] Significant is the fact that no associate of Joseph Smith has ever mentioned anything like this medallion. There are no interviews that ever record Emma mentioning any such item as attested to by Charles Bidamon, though he claimed she often spoke of it.
http://en.fairmormon.org/Joseph_Smith/Occultism_and_magic/Jupiter_talisman
Should you continue this story as if it is true after this knowledge has come to light, than you are engaging in falsehood.
The Book of Mormon and the Pearls of Great Price have more significant today as other events unfold in the earth.
So you folks can chose to malign a treasured book but as for me I will always be thankful for its existence.
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