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Pope Francis, with retired Pope Benedict present, creates new cardinals
cns ^ | February 23, 2014 | Cindy Wooden

Posted on 02/22/2014 11:57:28 AM PST by NYer

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To: ebb tide

So the pope could approve homo marriages, polygamy, abortion, etc. Right? He could declare there is salvation outside the Church. He could walk on water and part the Red Sea.

No, that is faith and morals. Taken straight out of the Bible. Not changing. Cardinals are something the Catholic Church came up with it. It’s a title, nothing more. The Pope can make anyone a Cardinal, it’s usually a priest, but the Pope can change that law. Why are you arguing about this? You are supposed to be Catholic. If so, try agreeing with the Pope for a change.


101 posted on 02/23/2014 8:42:18 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("No damn man kills me and lives" ~ Lt Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: NKP_Vet

No; you said the pope can do anything he wants to do. And so far, he’s been doing a lot of it.


102 posted on 02/23/2014 8:51:13 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet
The Pope can make anyone a Cardinal,

Then maybe the pope will make Rabbi Skorka and Abe Foxman cardinals.

103 posted on 02/23/2014 8:53:58 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet

“Oh I know, only protestants know scripture.”

Again, you miss my concern entirely.


104 posted on 02/23/2014 8:54:49 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: NKP_Vet
But he doesn’t have to do what they want, he does whatever he pleases.

So true for the current pope!

105 posted on 02/23/2014 8:57:21 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Got to be Catholic.


106 posted on 02/23/2014 9:01:45 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("No damn man kills me and lives" ~ Lt Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: NKP_Vet

Nope. According to you, he can do damn well whatever he wants to.


107 posted on 02/23/2014 9:26:29 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet
If so, try agreeing with the Pope for a change.

That not possible in many cases; otherwise I'd be disagreeing with the pre-conciliar popes.

108 posted on 02/23/2014 10:55:18 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

My only problem with Francis is I think he talks to much. And what he says is not always clear and that leaves him wide open to be misinterpreted. But I don’t worry in the least about him changing anything to do with moral issues that are as old as the church itself.


109 posted on 02/23/2014 11:20:21 AM PST by NKP_Vet (“From man’s sweat and God’s love, beer came into the world.” – St. Arnold of Metz)
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To: NKP_Vet

“Cardinals are something the Catholic Church came up with it. It’s a title, nothing more. “

Wow. Exactly what I wrote upthread.


110 posted on 02/23/2014 11:34:56 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide

No, I don’t. They are both very biased.


111 posted on 02/23/2014 3:52:26 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: ebb tide

When they give the wrong impression...I do. Overall, I do not trust anything they print and I look for substantiation from other, trustworthy sources...like the Vatican itself. When what they print is accurate and builds up the Church, I will say so. You must, of course, be aware that they often give the wrong impression about what the Church actually teaches.


112 posted on 02/23/2014 3:56:20 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: ebb tide

By the way, the Curt Jester checks things as well....and that blog was my primary source.


113 posted on 02/23/2014 3:57:51 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: ebb tide

Do you profess Francis to be the present, legitimate head of the Catholic Church?


114 posted on 02/23/2014 4:11:04 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SumProVita

Do you profess to be a Catholic? Because you sure don’t sound like one.


115 posted on 02/23/2014 4:12:57 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: SumProVita

Don’t you remember asking me that last night? Or were you drunk?

I’ve already given you my answer.


116 posted on 02/23/2014 4:16:02 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
Then maybe the pope will make Rabbi Skorka and Abe Foxman cardinals.

Hmmm...that would take false ecumenism to new heights!

117 posted on 02/24/2014 6:27:35 AM PST by piusv
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To: ebb tide; SumProVita
Do you profess [Francis] is the worst Pope the Holy Church has ever had?

Do you? I'm asking honestly and would appreciate a reply as such a question is nearly outrageous to consider. As some Protestants seemingly delight in reminding us, there have been Popes far worse than Francis ever could possibly be now, in anyone's wildest schismatic/heretical dream. This is just historical fact and can't be denied. And guess what, they are "pre-conciliar" Popes to boot.

So tell me seriously, do you believe Francis is the "worst Pope the Holy Church has ever had"?

118 posted on 02/24/2014 7:18:48 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven; ebb tide
As some Protestants seemingly delight in reminding us, there have been Popes far worse than Francis ever could possibly be now, in anyone's wildest schismatic/heretical dream. This is just historical fact and can't be denied. And guess what, they are "pre-conciliar" Popes to boot.

Who would these pre-Conciliar popes be?

119 posted on 02/24/2014 7:32:35 AM PST by piusv
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To: NKP_Vet; ebb tide

I think NKP’s point is that even though only men are allowed now, Francis could change that.

I can’t argue with that. Knowing Francis, he most certainly could. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. And the neo-Catholics would defend his right to do so. To heck with 2000 years of tradition! Pffft.


120 posted on 02/24/2014 7:54:49 AM PST by piusv
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