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DNA and The Book of Mormon Explained full-length video
FAIR MORMON ^ | Published on Feb 18, 2013

Posted on 02/24/2014 7:28:13 PM PST by restornu

Miraculous claims surrounding the coming forth of the Book of Mormon are an evidence of the prophetic calling of Joseph Smith. Critics intent on discrediting the Restoration point to DNA studies on indigenous American peoples in an attempt to expose Joseph, the Book of Mormon, and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as frauds. Claiming that scientific evidence excludes any possibility that Middle Eastern or ancient Jewish travelers came to the Americas in antiquity, such critics attempt to sow seeds of doubt in the minds of Latter-day Saints and those of other faiths concerning the authenticity of the Book of Mormon as an ancient religious text.

Are these studies credible? Do the data actually show what the critics claim? Do they discredit the Book of Mormon, or is there biological and other scientific evidence that supports the claims that it is indeed an ancient record of a people that once inhabited the Americas?

The Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research (FAIR) interviews scholars and scientists to answer these important questions and reveals the faith-affirming truth that not only are the critics' conclusions and methods flawed, but that there is credible scientific evidence in favor of the Book of Mormon as an ancient religious text.


TOPICS: History; Religion & Culture; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: dna; inman; lds; mormon; mormonism
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1 posted on 02/24/2014 7:28:13 PM PST by restornu
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DNA and The Book of Mormon Explained full-length video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SStDH3SCj4Q


2 posted on 02/24/2014 7:30:00 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu; greyfoxx39; Godzilla

Fair is not the best source of info. BTW, all of this has already been debunked, they use the wrong haplotypes.

Sorry resty but the BOM is still a bunch of garbage.


3 posted on 02/24/2014 7:30:39 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: restornu

Moral of the story: Some think they know a lot more than they actually know.


4 posted on 02/24/2014 7:36:59 PM PST by dixjea
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To: restornu

Montana Boy: Bones Show Ancestral Links to Europe

“...the boy, who died some 12,600 years ago, came from the Clovis culture.”

Despite general resistence, representatives of tribes in the US recently gave their blessing for DNA analysis of the remains of a Stone Age child. Research conducted on the boy’s genes indicate that Native Americans have European roots.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/dna-analysis-shows-native-americans-had-european-roots-a-954675.html


5 posted on 02/24/2014 7:37:33 PM PST by dragonblustar (Psalm 37:7)
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To: restornu

the prophetic calling of Joseph Smith.
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how did he get my number ???

What ???

Oh

well never mind then...


6 posted on 02/24/2014 7:37:50 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: reaganaut
Sorry resty but the BOM is still a bunch of garbage.

Just can't be said enough.

7 posted on 02/24/2014 7:41:17 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Crazy Cracker Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: restornu

Miraculous claims surrounding the coming forth of the Book of Mormon
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Yeah its a miracle Joey Smith didn’t have a permanent crease in his head where the peep stone in the hat pressed against his head..

another miracle would be that anyone ever was gullible enough to believe what that well known liar had to say..


8 posted on 02/24/2014 7:42:49 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: reaganaut

Reganaut,

The Bible identifies Christ as Son of God... you interpret, Jesus as just one persona of a God comprising a three-way personality disorder...?

And you criticize others who don’t follow your religious logic? Amazing.


9 posted on 02/24/2014 7:44:51 PM PST by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: restornu

Miraculous claims surrounding the coming forth of the Book of Mormon
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what FAIR didn’t stay around to list these so called “miracles “ ???


10 posted on 02/24/2014 7:44:54 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Oy Vey! “Jewish” Indian Placemarker!


11 posted on 02/24/2014 7:44:59 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Tennessee Nana

Tennessee Nana

Your ability at objectivity is officially “0”


12 posted on 02/24/2014 7:46:15 PM PST by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You are extremely uninformed borderline ignoramous. The Book of Mormon never claims that any of it’s peoples are Jewish.


13 posted on 02/24/2014 7:47:40 PM PST by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: teppe

Teppe your ability to sell me a false piece of goods is less than O


14 posted on 02/24/2014 7:47:52 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Obviously your ability to sell yourself a false piece of goods is 10000%


15 posted on 02/24/2014 7:50:28 PM PST by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: teppe

// you interpret, Jesus as just one persona of a God comprising a three-way personality disorder..//

Typical LDS characterization of the doctrine of the Trinity. That isn’t what Christian doctrine is, only one of the lies the LDS church claims that Christian doctrine of the Trinity is.

This is about truth vs. lies and Mormonism is a bunch of lies. Get out while you still can.


16 posted on 02/24/2014 7:59:49 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: teppe; aMorePerfectUnion

AMPU: Oy Vey! “Jewish” Indian Placemarker!

teppe: You are extremely uninformed borderline ignoramous. The Book of Mormon never claims that any of it’s peoples are Jewish.
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—Identifying from Whom the Lamanites Originally Descended

Thus Spake the Prophet Joseph Smith:

“When I was about 17 years old I saw another vision of angels in the night season after I had retired to bed I had not been asleep . . . [

“[A]ll at once the room was illuminated above the brightness of the sun an angel appeared before me . . .

“[H]e said unto me, ‘I am a messenger sent from God, be faithful and keep his commandments in all things.’

“[H]e told me of a sacred record which was written on plates of gold. I saw in the vision the place where they were deposited.

“[H]E SAID THE INDIANS WERE THE LITERAL DESCENDANTS OF ABRAHAM.”

(”The Papers of Joseph Smith,” Vol. 2, “Journal, 1832-1842,” edited by Dean C. Jessee, Deseret Book Company, Salt Lake City, copyright 1992, Corporation of the President, pp. 69-70),

Did Joey Smith put that in his book of Mormon ???

Yes right here in what Joey Smith called 2 Nephi 30:4,

“And then shall the remnant of our seed know concerning us, how that we came out from Jerusalem, and that THEY ARE THE DESCENDANTS OF THE JEWS.”

(Book of Mormon, 2 Nephi 30:4, )


17 posted on 02/24/2014 8:03:09 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: teppe; Tennessee Nana

//Your ability at objectivity is officially “0”//

So is yours.


18 posted on 02/24/2014 8:03:12 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: teppe; Colofornian
And Christ Himself identified himself as God (john 8:58). Now if that pisses you off, and you are disposed to interpret that as a personality disorder, you are going to have a very crappy future in front of the Great White throne.

Mormonism is a cult. It is refuted by higher criticism, archeology, common sense, and much more importantly: THE HOLY BIBLE. It's followers follow the same model as ISLAM: they both negate previous divine revelation when it doesn't fit their theological structure.

But the final death blow comes from Jesus himself. He didn't authenticate anything outside of what was already written, and what would be universally accepted by the church.

NO SALE.

19 posted on 02/24/2014 8:03:47 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: teppe; aMorePerfectUnion

//You are extremely uninformed borderline ignoramous. The Book of Mormon never claims that any of it’s peoples are Jewish.//

Back atcha, tepid. And it does say that the ancestors were Israelites. You are splitting hairs where there aren’t any.


20 posted on 02/24/2014 8:04:26 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: teppe

The LORD Jesus Christ said to Teppe “I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man or woman comes to the Father except by ME” (John 14:6)


21 posted on 02/24/2014 8:05:28 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: reaganaut

Hi sweetie..

How are you ???


22 posted on 02/24/2014 8:05:56 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: reaganaut

Give your source...


23 posted on 02/24/2014 8:07:59 PM PST by restornu
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To: teppe

Faulty reasoning. Jesus identified Himself as being part of the Godhead (trinity). Moreover He also identified himself as fully human and fully God.

That you do not understand is not God’s fault.

A leap of faith is not from here to there. It is from here.


24 posted on 02/24/2014 8:08:20 PM PST by Nifster
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To: The Iceman Cometh

did you watch this video already?


25 posted on 02/24/2014 8:09:41 PM PST by restornu
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To: Tennessee Nana

This video is 57 mins long and you been here already pushing your bias with out facts...


26 posted on 02/24/2014 8:11:25 PM PST by restornu
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To: Tennessee Nana

Again I must agree with you.


27 posted on 02/24/2014 8:11:46 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Doing great, working on the ministry and doing some writing. Just spent the week with fellow inmans Tminus and 4merliberal


28 posted on 02/24/2014 8:17:07 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: restornu; Godzilla

Do your own homework, and I pinged Zilla who is the go to guy for DNA


29 posted on 02/24/2014 8:17:43 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: c-b 1; teppe

In all honesty this is bias, because not one of your have watch this video yet but all claim to know?

This is the things the father of lies does continue disinformation and for what reason?

Because the desire for truth is not in people like this...


30 posted on 02/24/2014 8:17:49 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

do you have a spare peep stone ???

I can find a hat...


31 posted on 02/24/2014 8:19:49 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: reaganaut

never heard of it!


32 posted on 02/24/2014 8:21:41 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

why do we need to watch a video put out by followers of a false prophet when we have the real thing written in the Bible ???

Yes we know because we read the Bible..


33 posted on 02/24/2014 8:25:39 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

it shows..


34 posted on 02/24/2014 8:26:08 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: teppe

Strong Book of Mormon evidence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1QNQtV1C-U


35 posted on 02/24/2014 8:27:21 PM PST by restornu
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To: teppe

Biblical Stories in Ancient America. Evidence for The Book of Mormon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsPcW3FU99I


36 posted on 02/24/2014 8:30:25 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

Not my fault. The DNA is one of the most damning evidences against the LDS claims.


38 posted on 02/24/2014 8:34:02 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The problem is the motivation for those ‘good qualities’. They are trying to get people to convert (often by lying) and are trying to earn godhood and ‘do their part’ in earning their salvation.

However, once you leave, esp if you become a Christian, they shun you, lie and gossip about you and turn on you very quickly. My ministry is helping those who have left Mormonism for Christianity deal with those kinds of issues so I see them every single day and see the damage those ‘nice people’ do to others.


39 posted on 02/24/2014 8:36:21 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: teppe

The Popul Vuh and its Relation to The Book of Mormon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR5Sn8Ue8Qo


40 posted on 02/24/2014 8:40:03 PM PST by restornu
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41 posted on 02/24/2014 8:42:15 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: reaganaut

I miss Sandy and her Johannes comma..

:)


42 posted on 02/24/2014 8:43:03 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

http://www.godandscience.org/cults/dna.html


43 posted on 02/24/2014 8:44:22 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: restornu

http://www.mrm.org/dna


44 posted on 02/24/2014 8:44:43 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: reaganaut; Saundra Duffy

Remember ???

I think it was her...

Backed into a corner the Johannes comma would somehow appear in a thread about something unrelated..

:)


45 posted on 02/24/2014 8:45:32 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

http://signaturebooks.com/2012/09/mormon-scientist-concedes-native-american-origins/


46 posted on 02/24/2014 8:45:43 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: reaganaut; teppe

There is no DNA to compare too and if you watch the video you would know that the people of that time do not exist today so what ever they were trying to use has nothing to do with people from 600 BC. none those living there today have ancestor from that time period of any nation.

For now the whole thing is moot!


47 posted on 02/24/2014 8:46:20 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcDNuLrcggc


48 posted on 02/24/2014 8:46:33 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

probably because the Scientologists drink coffee...

:)


49 posted on 02/24/2014 8:46:48 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

http://carm.org/mormons-and-mitochondrial-dna


50 posted on 02/24/2014 8:46:57 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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