Skip to comments.Criticized by Benedict, liberation theology founder gets hero’s welcome at Vatican
Posted on 02/26/2014 3:40:12 PM PST by ebb tide
The founder of liberation theology, the Latin American-inspired Catholic theology advocating for the poor, received a heros welcome Tuesday at the Vatican as the once-criticized movement continues its rehabilitation under Pope Francis. The Rev. Gustavo Gutierrez of Peru was the surprise speaker Tuesday at a book launch featuring the head of the Vaticans orthodoxy office, Cardinal Gerhard Mueller; one of Francis top advisers, Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga; and the Vatican spokesman.
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A commie/Muslim President and a commie/Catholic Pope - wunderbar!
This can not end well.
“the Latin American-inspired Catholic theology advocating for the poor”
the writer is proficient at stating the obvious while denying the truth
Liberation theology is nothing other than the Marxist dialtectic written into the Christian message, period.
Now, I suppose we are supposed to be surprised of this Marxist hero’s welcome at the Vatican. I’m not.
The lefty Roman Catholics I know absolutely love Pope Francis.
As a Roman Catholic I continue to have my doubts....
A civil war within the Church continues to grow...
Queer, too. (both of them.)
The one Catholic I trust above all others is my mother. She always warned about Jesuits.
The Pope is not queer. Just because the media is doing a great job falsely characterizing him as a big, hippie, Commie does not mean he deserves to be slandered.
As for Obama, no idea.
“As a Roman Catholic I continue to have my doubts....”
Nothing I have read about this pope inspires any confidence at all.
As for liberation theology, I’d advise the Vatican to be cautious, there’s plenty to be “liberated” in their coffers.
But, like all commies everywhere, their own wealth is cool, it’s the other guy who’s underserving.
FWIW, the story before he was elected Pope was that Francis had a strong record in opposition to Liberation Theology. Of course, that’s just what was said about him, I don’t know it directly.
Also, the Pope doesn’t seem to have invited this guy to be an honored speaker. Gerhard Mueller did. This wouldn’t be the first time that the press pretended that “the Vatican” was interchangeable with “the Pope.”
That said, I confess I really don’t know what to make of this guy. But I am less hopeful than I was at first that he might broom out the troublemakers in the Vatican. It would take a strong and determined Pope to do that. PJP II and Benedict XVI were evidently unable to do it, although their intentions were good.
And it’s also the reason why the Evangelical churches have spread so far. Why go to a church that says you must be poor, when you can go to a church that says the Lord wants you to prosper?
POPE FRANCIS, MARXISM AND LIBERATION THEOLOGY.
Pope describes as mistaken the Marxist ideology.
From mistaken to intrinsically perverse goes a long way. A mistake that has cost more than 150 million human beings sacrificed at the altar of this evil ideology.
Pope Francis describes Marxism just as mistaken, in a dramatic contrast with the doctrine of the Church that has defined it as intrinsically perverse in the Encyclical Divini Redemptoris of Pius XI over atheistic communism published in 1937, an ideology unequivocally condemned by the Magisterium since the end of the 19th century to Benedict XVI.
That soft position of Pope Francisco vs. the Marxist penetration of The Church explains the great joy of the founders and proponents of the Marxist Liberation theology when he was chosen as the Vicar of Christ on Earth.
The Liberation Theology was condemned by Juan Pablo II in the Instruction on certain aspects of the theology of liberation, promulgated by his order by the prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the doctrine of the faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, later elected as Pope Benedict XVI.
In opening the Vatican doors to the Marxist promoters, Pope Francis is disregarding the Magisterium of the Church.
Try, venerable brethren, with care that the faithful do not be fooled. Communism is intrinsically evil, and cannot accept that they collaborate with communism, in any field, those who want to save Christian civilization from the ruin. And if some, misled the, cooperate for the establishment of communism in their own countries, they will be the first to pay the penalty of their error; and the more ancient and luminous is the civilization created by Christianity in the Nations in which Communism managed to penetrate, the greater the devastation that they will exercise the hatred of Communist atheism.(Pius XI, Divine Redemptorys)
Would be illusory and dangerous to get to forget the intimate bond that unites them radically, accept the Marxist analysis elements without recognizing its relations with ideology, entering the practice of the fight of classes and its Marxist interpretation leaving perceive the kind of totalitarian society which leads this process . (Pablo VI, Octogesima adveniens, 1971)
INSTRUCTION ON SOME ASPECTS «THEOLOGY OF LIBERATION»
Quotes from the Instruction
Thus it is not uncommon to be ideological aspects that predominate in loans that many of the theologians of liberation taken from the Marxist authors...
VIII - SUBVERTING THE MEANING OF TRUTH AND VIOLENCE
1. This totalizing conception imposes its logic and drag Theology of liberation to accept a set of positions incompatible with the Christian vision of man. In fact, the ideological core, taken from Marxism, to which it refers, exercises the function of a determinant principle. This function has been given under the qualification of scientist, i.e., necessarily true, that has been attributed to him. In this core we can distinguish various components...
2. 8. The fundamental law of the class struggle has a character of universality and globalism. Reflected in all fields of existence, religious, ethical, cultural and institutional. With regard to this law, none of these fields is self-contained. This law is the decisive element in each...
9. By granting to the theses of Marxist origin, put radically into question the nature of ethics. In fact, the transcendent character of the distinction between good and evil, principle of morality, is implicitly denied in the view of the class struggle.
Pope Francis is NOT in favor of Liberation Theology, no matter how much the media tries to make it seem that he is.
Just as the writers have planned. Please consider the SOURCE when you're reading about Pope Francis.
These kind of comments and pure calumny come from Satan and not of God. Pope Francis has spoken out repeatedly against communism, Marxism and other forms of authoritarian governments. And he has never adopted any position contrary to the Church’s teaching on homosexual conduct and so-called lifestyle. You should be ashamed. But given the depravity of your comments, shame isn’t part of your lexicon.
Ever notice most of the anti-Catholic bigots are really latent homosexuals? Just saying.....
Yes, it's simply marxism minus atheism, yet its worldly orientation tends to undermine the Christian message. Liberation "theology" is a misnomer, as it is a humanist rather than theological concept. The "preferential option for the poor" is leftist political ideology masquerading as Christian charity. Marxism, unlike capitalism, is intrinsically and therefore irreformably evil, even when furnished with an ecclesiastical veneer.
You should take after your pope: “who am I to judge?”
He wrote the intro for Mueller's book on liberation theology. How could that be construed as anything but an endorsement?
I did not know that - are you an expert on the subject?
How does one notice latent homosexuals? Just wonderin’...
More to the point, how many interactions does it take to arrive at the conclusion "most of"? Is that what they call "cruising"?
God help us. Fellow FReeper Catholic who are political conservatives else you wouldn't be on FR, please wake up and smell the coffee. You should cease and desist from calling yourselves conservative FReepers if you can't make a stand against this Marxist Pope. This needs to be put in caps:
THE ONCE-CRITICIZED MOVEMENT (Marxist Liberation Theology) CONTINUES ITS REHABILITATION UNDER POPE FRANCIS
Your comments stirs me to repost something I posted to the thread, Fascination with Francis Stirs Protestants Hearts.” It caused a bit of heat on that thread, but, sad to say with this latest news, it turns out I was spot on. This lead article confirms what many of us here have seen all along about this Pope. Now it’s out in the light of day for all to see.
In that thread, I said:
I have zero fascination for this Marxist Pope, ‘Stirs Protestant hearts?’ Give me a break!
Put a Marxist in charge of the Roman church, the Catholic FReepers cover for him at every step, they do it all the time on the RF. Whatever political conservatism they might have goes out the window it seems, it apparently doesnt mean diddly to a Catholic.
Bizarre! “Marxist” to these hateful ignoramuses is the synonym of “bad”! Did I say bizarre?
“And its also the reason why the Evangelical churches have spread so far.”
I don’t accept your rationale for why any number of Evangelical churches have spread, in the Hispanic world or anywhere else.
Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI proscribed Liberation Theology as a beachhead of Marxists into the Catholic Church. As soon as Pope Francis took power, he wide open the doors of the Church to the leaders of the Marxist Liberation Theology. QUO O VADIS, FRANCIS?