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Bishop Bans Fisher More College from offering Traditional Latin Mass to students
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Posted on 03/03/2014 5:06:09 AM PST by piusv

BREAKING & EXCLUSIVE: Bishop Bans Fisher More College from offering Traditional Latin Mass to students

Stunning letter gives no reason, simply bans the Mass said daily for last three years at school for sake of "your own soul"

Canon Law Centre: Bishop has "unlawfully restricted the rights of the faithful"

An effect of new Pontificate? First the FI, now the youth in America

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And the attack on the TLM under Francis continues.....
1 posted on 03/03/2014 5:06:09 AM PST by piusv
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To: piusv

yep. :-(


2 posted on 03/03/2014 5:17:01 AM PST by sneakers ( Quinn: "Liberty is the solution to the human condition.")
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To: piusv

This is terrible news about the true Mass where the only purpose is to worship God!


3 posted on 03/03/2014 5:20:31 AM PST by Ken522
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To: piusv

He is angry about the students keeping the school open and is trying to close it. He is under satan’s influence. This is an outrage.


4 posted on 03/03/2014 5:35:47 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: piusv

Perhaps when they sent him a spiritual bouquet that pushed him over the edge. :)

The measure taken by this bishop is no surprise, as Pope Francis has shown disdain toward pelagians and their “fashions”. The Latin Mass community is also under threat in the archdiocese governed by the brown-robed “pope of America”. Look for other bishops to start making similar moves. Also the FSSP better start looking over their shoulders.


5 posted on 03/03/2014 5:40:45 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: piusv
As a caveat, there may be more here going on than meets the eye. I note that the College also very recently cancelled its Lenten mission, featuring Fr. Shannon Collins, CPM and Fr. Sean Kopcynski, CPM, and that financially the institution is in pretty dire straights.

Having said that, with the information on the surface, this is a completely different situation than with the FI.

The situation with FI was covered by SP Article III:

Art. 3. If communities of Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life, whether of pontifical or diocesan right, wish to celebrate the conventual or community Mass in their own oratories according to the 1962 edition of the Roman Missal, they are permitted to do so. If an individual community or an entire Institute or Society wishes to have such celebrations frequently, habitually or permanently, the matter is to be decided by the Major Superiors according to the norm of law and their particular laws and statutes.

However, as far as I can tell, this Fisher-More issue is an issue of a secular community and, thus, would be covered by SP Art II/IV:

Art. 2. In Masses celebrated without a congregation, any Catholic priest of the Latin rite, whether secular or regular, may use either the Roman Missal published in 1962 by Blessed Pope John XXIII or the Roman Missal promulgated in 1970 by Pope Paul VI, and may do so on any day, with the exception of the Easter Triduum. For such a celebration with either Missal, the priest needs no permission from the Apostolic See or from his own Ordinary.

Art. 4. The celebrations of Holy Mass mentioned above in Art. 2 may be attended also by members of the lay faithful who spontaneously request to do so, with respect for the requirements of law.

Like I said, there may be other things going on that neither of us is aware of; however, it appears clear to be that some members of the faithful there should appeal this directive to Ecclesia Dei.

However, this situation is completely differently than the FI situation.

Now, mind you, if Ecclesia Dei blows them off, then the claims of conspiracy by Rorate Cæli will start to hold a lot more water.

6 posted on 03/03/2014 5:42:56 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: yldstrk

This is truly horrible. My prayers are up for the students and faculty and the future of the TLM.


7 posted on 03/03/2014 5:59:04 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: piusv

This is extremely troubling.

Regards,


8 posted on 03/03/2014 5:59:52 AM PST by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: VermiciousKnid
Someone should remind the Bishop of the two martyrs the college is named after
9 posted on 03/03/2014 6:04:52 AM PST by mware
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To: VermiciousKnid
Someone should remind the Bishop of the two martyrs the college is named after
10 posted on 03/03/2014 6:05:16 AM PST by mware
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To: markomalley
the matter is to be decided by the Major Superiors according to the norm of law and their particular laws and statutes.

In the FFI situation, the Superior General who made the decision was removed under a cloud of false accusations which were later withdrawn. At this point, "traditionalist drift" appears to have been the major crime.

Like I said, there may be other things going on that neither of us is aware of

Difficult to conceive of any other things going on which would justify this action by the bishop.

11 posted on 03/03/2014 6:08:23 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: mware

Indeed. Here is Bishop Michael Olson’s contact information:

Phone & Email:

817-560-3300 ext. 117
officeofthebishop@fwdioc.org

Mailing Address:

Most Reverend Michael F. Olson
800 West Loop 820 South
Fort Worth, TX 76108

Regards,


12 posted on 03/03/2014 6:09:07 AM PST by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: markomalley

bookmark


13 posted on 03/03/2014 6:15:15 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee)
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To: BlatherNaut; markomalley

Seriously. The bishop threatened to remove the Eucharist from the school if it didn’t comply.

This is pure evil.


14 posted on 03/03/2014 6:16:05 AM PST by piusv
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To: BlatherNaut
Difficult to conceive of any other things going on which would justify this action by the bishop.

Neither you nor I are there so we don't know.

But it would have been good had you quoted the entire sentence:

Like I said, there may be other things going on that neither of us is aware of; however, it appears clear to be that some members of the faithful there should appeal this directive to Ecclesia Dei.

And I hope the faithful at that school do exactly that.

15 posted on 03/03/2014 6:20:17 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Unfortunately as of now it doesn’t appear that they are fighting this as they have suspended mass.


16 posted on 03/03/2014 6:25:24 AM PST by piusv
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To: piusv

I note no-one has ever suggested doing that to Notre Dame, Boston College, Georgetown, etc. Can you imagine Notre Dame having to explain to parents that they are “in the Catholic tradition,” but the students have to go to off the immense campus to find a mass?


17 posted on 03/03/2014 6:35:48 AM PST by dangus
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To: piusv
Unfortunately as of now it doesn’t appear that they are fighting this as they have suspended mass.

Even one of the students could do so; the administration may be under obedience and so wouldn't be able to do so.

We'll see how it turns out. But if nobody does so, I've got to ask the question: why not?

18 posted on 03/03/2014 6:38:41 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
But it would have been good had you quoted the entire sentence: Like I said, there may be other things going on that neither of us is aware of; however, it appears clear to be that some members of the faithful there should appeal this directive to Ecclesia Dei.

I apologize for not quoting your entire sentence. The point I was attempting to make is that this action by the bishop is IMO outrageous under any circumstances. Certainly they should appeal.

19 posted on 03/03/2014 6:39:17 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: dangus

Nah, they probably offer the Eucharist to pro-abort politicians there.


20 posted on 03/03/2014 6:39:18 AM PST by piusv
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To: markomalley

It’s my understanding that ultimately the bishop can choose against the TLM. I can’t remember the specific part of SP, but in certain circumstances the bishop must approve it.


21 posted on 03/03/2014 6:42:04 AM PST by piusv
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To: piusv

“A Visit to Fisher More College”
Interview with College President, Dr. Michael King

“We operate on the motto that the parents’ 18 years of sacrifice and commitment raising their children Catholic at home should not be undone in 3 months of college.” - Dr. Michael King, President, Fisher More College

“...JV: What are some of the main characteristics that make Fisher More different from other contemporary Catholic colleges?

MK: There are many, and I think one can fairly identify both major and minor differences. Among the major differences is our simple approach.

As is made clear in our mission statement, we understand our duty is to assist families and the Church in guiding souls committed to our care toward the purpose for which they were created: to know, love, and serve God. In other words, we do not consider a college or university as a divinely ordained institution like the family and the Church.

Following from this, our first priority is to provide for the continued formation of our students in the traditional Catholic Faith, centered on the Traditional Mass. We consider it our duty to provide students with an environment and a culture in which they can grow in their faith, one that is safe for them spiritually so they can have a fruitful sacramental and prayer life during this critical period of their lives. We operate on the motto that 18 years of sacrifice and commitment at home should not be undone in 3 months of college.
We are certain that this can only be accomplished by remaining faithful to the timeless, sacred traditions that have been passed down to us through the ages and have always been true source of faith, piety, and culture....”

http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/6a1d3938e2249056d45e4cc9647770f9-164.html


22 posted on 03/03/2014 6:43:45 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: piusv
I can’t remember the specific part of SP, but in certain circumstances the bishop must approve it.

The situation is if the a group of the faithful that is too small to support such an effort in a parish request it, or if there are no clergy capable of performing it in a parish, they may approach the bishop (Art 7). The bishop is encouraged, in his solicitude, to create a personal parish (Art 10) for the purpose of providing the Sacraments in the old form (Also see UE Art 17 §2 and Art 23).

23 posted on 03/03/2014 6:55:18 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: BlatherNaut
We are certain that this can only be accomplished by remaining faithful to the timeless, sacred traditions that have been passed down to us through the ages and have always been true source of faith, piety, and culture

Dem fighting words, obviously.

24 posted on 03/03/2014 6:56:49 AM PST by piusv
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To: markomalley

Yes, that’s it. Note it says the bishop is “encouraged”, not expected to do so.


25 posted on 03/03/2014 6:58:07 AM PST by piusv
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To: piusv

I don’t agree with this. I think the Latin Mass should be offered for those who appreciate and understand it.

It cannot however be the primary tool of evangelization. You have to reach people in a language they can understand.
That being said, I don’t really see what is achieved by banning it.


26 posted on 03/03/2014 7:00:39 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: piusv

November 19, 2013

WASHINGTON—Pope Francis has named Msgr. Michael Olson, 47, a priest of the Diocese of Fort Worth, Texas and rector of Holy Trinity Seminary at the University of Dallas in Irving, Texas, as bishop of Fort Worth.


27 posted on 03/03/2014 7:00:53 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: piusv
Note it says the bishop is “encouraged”, not expected to do so.

Also note that the specific instance is if the faithful approach their priest and the priest says, "nope, can't help you out."

28 posted on 03/03/2014 7:01:08 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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You have to reach people in a language they can understand.

So for hundreds of years, the Church was wrong to have a Latin liturgy? Really, think about what you are saying here.

29 posted on 03/03/2014 7:02:18 AM PST by piusv
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To: markomalley

So, are you saying it doesn’t apply? I’m not following you.


30 posted on 03/03/2014 7:07:14 AM PST by piusv
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To: ebb tide

No surprise there.


31 posted on 03/03/2014 7:08:00 AM PST by piusv
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To: piusv

In a stunning and breathtaking letter, the Most Rev. Michael Olson, the newly-ordained bishop of the Fort Worth Diocese and the second-youngest bishop in the United States, has fully and totally banned the offering of the Traditional Latin Mass in the chapel of Fisher More College, where it has been offered for the last three years on a daily basis by chaplains all approved by his predecessor bishop according to the college. This blow comes after the students of the college raised $300,000 in about a week to keep the school open for the spring semester (see here). 

 

Rorate has exclusively obtained -- through a source who has requested anonymity -- a copy of the letter sent last week by the bishop after a personal meeting with the college's president, Michael King. Even more striking, the letter from Bishop Olson states that he's doing this "for your own soul," addressing Mr. King, apparently saying in some twisted way the offering of the Mass in the Extraordinary Form is a danger to Mr.King's soul

When asked by Rorate for a response to the letter from Bishop Olson, the school declined to comment.

 

Here is the letter from Bishop Olson to Mr. King: 


32 posted on 03/03/2014 7:08:21 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: piusv
What I'm saying is that there is a specific circumstance where the bishop has an impact in the implementation of SP: that is if the a stable group of the Faithful approach the parish pastor and request that the EF Mass be celebrated there regularly and then the parish pastor says that he can't support it (for whatever reason).

In that circumstance, the diocesan bishop is encouraged to help the Faithful out. One of the options is to erect a personal parish dedicated to the EF. If he is encouraged to erect a parish for the purpose, he can also say "no" to the request.

Having said that, no priest who is qualified to do so may be impeded from saying the Mass according to the 1962 Missal (and allowing the Faithful to be there when he does so).

33 posted on 03/03/2014 7:14:26 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

I think you’re wrong. In my diocese, the parish priest had to get permission from the bishop and it is my understanding that he could have decided “no”. In no way did the priest give the impression that he could not say “no”. It took months until he said “yes”. I think ultimately the bishop gets to decide. Can you show me exactly where it states that the bishop can not say “no”? I have got to think it at least requires very compelling reasons.


34 posted on 03/03/2014 7:19:33 AM PST by piusv
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To: Buckeye McFrog
It cannot however be the primary tool of evangelization. You have to reach people in a language they can understand.

Well, then it must have been some sort of miracle that the Spanish, French and Portuguese-speaking missionaries offering nothing but Latin Mass managed to successfully evangelize entire continents of native populations.
35 posted on 03/03/2014 7:26:21 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: Salvation

Smoking gun?


36 posted on 03/03/2014 7:29:19 AM PST by onedoug
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To: piusv
I think you’re wrong.

Read SP and UE for yourself.

Link to SP

Link to UE

There are a LOT of bishops who have done everything they can to inhibit the proper implementation of SP. Such things as conducting Latin Literacy Tests to assure that priests have a college-level translation capability before they are certified "qualified" -- and that is an explicit violation of Art 20 of UE.

There is one issue, though, that could cause a parish to run into legitimate problems. From UE:

19. The faithful who ask for the celebration of the forma extraordinaria must not in any way support or belong to groups which show themselves to be against the validity or legitimacy of the Holy Mass or the Sacraments celebrated in the forma ordinaria or against the Roman Pontiff as Supreme Pastor of the Universal Church.


37 posted on 03/03/2014 7:34:11 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: piusv
Art. 7. If a group of lay faithful, as mentioned in art. 5 õ 1, has not obtained satisfaction to their requests from the pastor, they should inform the diocesan bishop. The bishop is strongly requested to satisfy their wishes. If he cannot arrange for such celebration to take place, the matter should be referred to the Pontifical Commission "Ecclesia Dei".

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"Strongly requested" - not required "to satisfy their wishes". So who's in charge of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei"? Has Pope Francis made any personnel changes to the commission? Why would a bishop (appointed by Pope Francis) make such a draconian decision if he was not reasonably assured that he could do so with impunity?

38 posted on 03/03/2014 7:40:14 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: markomalley

Given the school’s comments in a previous post, I wouldn’t be surprised if #19 is asserted by the bishop in question. Whether the bishop was in his rights to ban it based on #19 or not, this will only cause more issues within the Church. These sorts of actions only cause more and more Catholics to question what has happened to the Church post-Vatican II and Vatican II itself.


39 posted on 03/03/2014 7:45:00 AM PST by piusv
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To: BlatherNaut

Like markomalley pointed out, it doesn’t look like that particular article relates to this situation. See the other posts between us.


40 posted on 03/03/2014 7:47:32 AM PST by piusv
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To: piusv
If the school made derogatory comments about the N.O. Mass' validity/legitimacy, then the bishop is fully within his rights to shut down the EF and, in fact, if the school operates under the Bishop's authority, to close the school down altogether. This is the first I've heard that the school made those kinds of comments (I don't follow Rorate that closely).

I don't care for the irreverence that seems to follow the N.O. in so many places. I don't care for the heretical music, the focus on the priest as being the primary actor and focus (rather than Christ), the abuses that seem to track with it hand in hand.

And I wouldn't hardly have a problem with pointing that out to students or publishing that in an official capacity (if I were on the faculty of a school).

But there is a world of difference between pointing out that the N.O. lends itself to abuses and stating that it is not valid or somehow valid but not licit...because that directly challenges the primacy of the Holy Father...and that is unacceptable and lends itself to some really, really, really bad theological conclusions.

41 posted on 03/03/2014 7:57:12 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: dangus
no-one has ever suggested doing that to Notre Dame, Boston College, Georgetown, etc. Can you imagine Notre Dame having to explain to parents that they are “in the Catholic tradition,” but the students have to go to off the immense campus to find a mass?

The freshman parents' orientation at Georgetown U so offended a relative of mine, they almost pulled their kid out. The female presenter said that drinking was absolutely not allowed in the dorms, but when it comes to sex, she scolded the parents , "This isn't Mayberry anymore!" and proceeded to explain the co-ed dorms and the practice of "sexiling" -- a student asking his or her roommate to leave their room so he or she could use the room to have sex. These are 18-year-old kids away from home for 5 minutes. They also have "Sex Positive" week and a gay-straight alliance.

Wonder how GU's alumni contributions are going -- oh, wait: they've been accepting money from the Saudis for their "Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding", so no problem.

42 posted on 03/03/2014 7:57:26 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: markomalley
Following from this, our first priority is to provide for the continued formation of our students in the traditional Catholic Faith, centered on the Traditional Mass. We consider it our duty to provide students with an environment and a culture in which they can grow in their faith, one that is safe for them spiritually so they can have a fruitful sacramental and prayer life during this critical period of their lives. We operate on the motto that 18 years of sacrifice and commitment at home should not be undone in 3 months of college.

We are certain that this can only be accomplished by remaining faithful to the timeless, sacred traditions that have been passed down to us through the ages and have always been true source of faith, piety, and culture....”

I think the above could be considered, like I said above, "fighting words". It does seem to imply at least that this is not possible without the TLM.

43 posted on 03/03/2014 8:02:55 AM PST by piusv
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To: piusv
>>>We are certain that this can only be accomplished by remaining faithful to the timeless, sacred traditions that have been passed down to us through the ages and have always been true source of faith, piety, and culture....”

I think the above could be considered, like I said above, "fighting words". It does seem to imply at least that this is not possible without the TLM.

Seems to me like they should be advocating to celebrate the Mass according to the Liturgy of St John Chrysostom, since that is far more the timeless, sacred tradition (being about 1,000 years older than the Liturgy of St Pius V).

Note: I say that as somebody who loves both the TLM and the Eastern Rite and think that both are far superior to the N.O. But to say that the E.F. Mass is truly ancient (in terms of the timeline of the Church) is laughable.

44 posted on 03/03/2014 8:17:38 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
Seems to me like they should be advocating to celebrate the Mass according to the Liturgy of St John Chrysostom, since that is far more the timeless, sacred tradition (being about 1,000 years older than the Liturgy of St Pius V).

Wouldn't that make them guilty of disputing the primacy of a canonized pope?

45 posted on 03/03/2014 8:39:19 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

“Wouldn’t that make them guilty of disputing the primacy of a canonized pope?”

Then we get into fights about popes issuing apostolic constitutions: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_p-vi_apc_19690403_missale-romanum_en.html

Unless, of course, you choose to get into some really complicated theological nastiness. For example, the liceity of the Eastern Rites and the Ambrosian Rite (as well as others like the Dominican Rite, etc.)

The point I’m getting at is when they say that the Liturgy of St Pius V is the ONLY way to achieve that, it falls flat when they simultaneously appeal to it based upon its antiquity.

Again, repeating, re-iterating: I full well understand the problems that the N.O. seems to have constantly accompanying it. So I’m not defending the N.O. as being optimal.


46 posted on 03/03/2014 8:55:13 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Salvation

That letter from the bishop reads like a cold slap in the face.

What’s the matter with him?!


47 posted on 03/03/2014 9:29:14 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: Deo volente

The Modernists are feeling emboldened by Francis.


48 posted on 03/03/2014 10:07:17 AM PST by piusv
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To: Deo volente

It surprised me too. I was thinking that all the new Bishops were in line with Pope Benedict. Makes me wonder.


49 posted on 03/03/2014 10:22:13 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: piusv

In point of fact, no permission is needed under the prevailing legislation. The clergy have the right to use the older liturgies as they please. However, given the political realities of most dioceses, a pastor would be asking to have his head handed to him if he did not at least consult his bishop. Look up Summorum Pontificum for details.


50 posted on 03/03/2014 11:11:24 AM PST by Austin Scott
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