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Fisher More Refuses to “Censor” Her Faculty: Therefore Fisher More Shall have no more Mass
Catholic Family News ^ | March 5, 2014 | Brian McCall, JD

Posted on 03/06/2014 6:12:44 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: markomalley

FYI: “Marymount University” is in Arlington, VA. That article refers to “Marymount Manhattan College” which, of course, is in Pittsburgh. Just kidding. MMC was a sattelite campus of Marymount College in Tarrytown, NY, but the Tarrytown campus was sold to Fordham University. There’s also “Loyola Marymount University,” but in America, “Marymount University” refers to the Virginia university.


21 posted on 03/07/2014 8:13:01 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

FYI, I said “Marymount” not Marymount University.

Marymount is a common name given to educational institutions founded by the Religious of the Sacred Heart of Mary. Just as Loyola is a common name for Jesuit-founded institutions. From what I’ve come to understand, most, if not all, are off the rails (I’ll take your word for it regarding the school in Ballston, though)


22 posted on 03/07/2014 8:27:26 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

How is FMC violating Ex Corde Ecclesiae?

Did the bishops, in whose dioceses that DePaul, Marymount, Georgetown, or Trinity are located, yank the Novus Ordo Mass away from those apostate universities because it was a danger to the souls of of those attending and instead only allowed them to have a weekly TLM?

That would be silly, wouldn’t it?

About as silly as yanking the TLM away from FMC and shoving the NO down it’s throat.


23 posted on 03/07/2014 12:37:19 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: markomalley
Georgetown University student group hosts ‘Sex Positive Week’ with erotic dancing instruction

Where is Donna Cardinalette Wuerl? Do you think you he'll threaten to remove the Blessed Sacrament from Georgetown's chapel?

24 posted on 03/07/2014 12:56:59 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide; sitetest
Where is Donna Cardinalette Wuerl? Do you think you he'll threaten to remove the Blessed Sacrament from Georgetown's chapel?

I have no idea what Donna will do. Maybe Sitetest has a better idea.

Of course, nobody is going to ask her. But, hypothetically, if some reporter or reporterette was to ask the question, I'd imagine that Donna would state that Georgetown was not under her control, being a Jesuit Institution.

The next question that should, then, be asked would be if Donna has contacted the Jesuit Provincial under whom Georgetown fell. Chances are, the answer would be something about not discussing privileged communications, or the like.

Pity that Bishop Olson is not the Archbishop of Washington, isn't it?

25 posted on 03/07/2014 2:23:46 PM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: ebb tide
How is FMC violating Ex Corde Ecclesiae?

§ 3. In ways appropriate to the different academic disciplines, all Catholic teachers are to be faithful to, and all other teachers are to respect, Catholic doctrine and morals in their research and teaching. In particular, Catholic theologians, aware that they fulfil a mandate received from the Church, are to be faithful to the Magisterium of the Church as the authentic interpreter of Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition(50).

Whether you or I like it or not, all of the Pontiffs after the Council have validated it. If lecturers counsel disregard of it, they are disregarding matters that must be accepted with religious submission of the will.

Did the bishops, in whose dioceses that DePaul, Marymount, Georgetown, or Trinity are located, yank the Novus Ordo Mass away from those apostate universities because it was a danger to the souls of of those attending and instead only allowed them to have a weekly TLM?

Didn't realize that Bishop Olson's diocese extended that far. Do you know when they expanded the Ft Worth diocese to include those locations?

(Note: you very validly criticize the bishops within which those heterodox schools reside. While most would be able to shield themselves behind Religious Institutes of Pontifical Right, the bishop could still turn screws on the schools...to include demanding that the Religious Institute not work within his diocese any longer...but those are criticisms of other bishops. If Olson had one of those institutions within his diocese and decided to crack down on FMC while ignoring the others, then you'd have a valid complaint. But he doesn't. And you don't)

26 posted on 03/07/2014 2:33:34 PM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
Didn't realize that Bishop Olson's diocese extended that far.

I never said it did. Why do you falsely accuse me of saying so?

§ 3. In ways appropriate to the different academic disciplines, all Catholic teachers are to be faithful to, and all other teachers are to respect, Catholic doctrine and morals in their research and teaching. In particular, Catholic theologians, aware that they fulfil a mandate received from the Church, are to be faithful to the Magisterium of the Church as the authentic interpreter of Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition(50).

Neither you, nor Bishop Olson, have proven, or even shown, where FMC has failed in the above. To this date, Olson has not given one reason for his draconian crackdown.

Disgruntled crackpots have, but Olson is silent.

27 posted on 03/07/2014 2:46:16 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: markomalley

Are you kidding? The Jesuits are untouchable now that, in addition to their black pope, they have a white pope.


28 posted on 03/07/2014 2:48:59 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: markomalley
Pity that Bishop Olson is not the Archbishop of Washington, isn't it?

I wouldn't wish Olson on any diocese. He's a petty, but not petite, man.

29 posted on 03/07/2014 2:52:35 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
Disgruntled crackpots have, but Olson is silent.

Seems to me that the disgruntled crackpots have thoroughly identified themselves.

30 posted on 03/07/2014 2:56:56 PM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: ebb tide
Are you kidding? The Jesuits are untouchable now that, in addition to their black pope, they have a white pope.

So, now you have your answer, don't you?

So when did you join the SSPV?

31 posted on 03/07/2014 2:57:35 PM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

>>So when did you join the SSPV?<<

Never did; never thought about it.

You’re posts are getting ugly now, which I’ve never seen in you before.


32 posted on 03/07/2014 3:17:54 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: markomalley

>>Seems to me that the disgruntled crackpots have thoroughly identified themselves. <<

Bingo! Mark Shea and Dr. Taylor Marshall immediately spring to mind!


33 posted on 03/07/2014 3:20:49 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: DesertRhino
Three thousand plus words here, and reads like securities trial motion hearing brief. Why do so many catholic things read this way?

Just my guess, but in this case it's probably because he's a canon lawyer.

34 posted on 03/07/2014 4:24:42 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016. / Obama=Unspeakable Audacity)
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To: ebb tide
Did the bishops, in whose dioceses that DePaul, Marymount, Georgetown, or Trinity are located, yank the Novus Ordo Mass away from those apostate universities because it was a danger to the souls of of those attending and instead only allowed them to have a weekly TLM?

No need to ask about those schools in all those distant dioceses. Since we know that Bishop Olson thinks this is the right way to respond to alleged errors, why not look around Forth Worth itself. After all, there are 89 parishes in that diocese, and I am guessing that there are more than a few among them that are thoroughly modernist and perpetuate errors from their pulpits and altars every day. That is certainly true everywhere else in the country anyway, so I have no doubt that there are at least a few rogue churches there as well. And, therefore, what I would like to know is why we haven't read any reports about this bishop protecting those people by banning the Novus Ordo in their churches and only allowing them to say the TLM? Surely the Mass is a danger to these peoples' souls too, and so they should be protected from it. So why no ban in those cases? I think that is very strange, and very, very telling.

35 posted on 03/07/2014 10:25:46 PM PST by cothrige
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