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Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen: Catholic Media's Greatest Star
Catholic Education ^ | THOMAS REEVES

Posted on 03/09/2014 1:11:05 PM PDT by NYer

When Sheen went on television in February 1952, his Life Is Worth Living programs became extremely popular, competing effectively against shows starring “Mr. Television,” Milton Berle, and singer-actor Frank Sinatra.

Fulton J. Sheen (1895-1979)

As 1999 ended, there was speculation about who had been the greatest, most popular, most significant, or most influential Catholic of the preceding 100 years. When it came to the world, Pope John Paul II and Mother Teresa scored high on virtually every list. In the United States, names such as Francis Cardinal Spellman, Dorothy Day, Thomas Merton, Al Smith, and John F. Kennedy received considerable attention. Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen received little notice.

It is my contention that Sheen was the most influential Catholic of 20th-century America. Indeed, it could be argued that his impact was far superior to others receiving more attention in polls and in the media.

In the first place, he was the most popular public speaker in the Church, and arguably the best. Millions listened to his Catholic Hour radio programs from 1928 to 1952. Millions also received printed copies of these talks. In 1949, Gladys Baker, a noted journalist, observed that Sheen was “the name priest in America.” She added, “By members of all faiths, Monsignor Sheen is conceded to be the most electric orator of our times.”

When Sheen went on television in February 1952, his Life Is Worth Living programs became extremely popular, competing effectively against shows starring “Mr. Television,” Milton Berle, and singer-actor Frank Sinatra. A television critic exclaimed, “Bishop Sheen can’t sing, can’t dance, and can’t act. All he is…is sensational.” In his first year on television, Sheen won the Emmy for Most Outstanding Television Personality, winning over media giants Lucille Ball, Arthur Godfrey, Edward R. Murrow, and Jimmy Durante. After winning, he was featured on the covers of Time, TV Guide, Colliers, and Look. The journalist James Conniff stated, “No Catholic bishop has burst on the world with such power as Sheen wields since long before the Protestant Reformation.” By early 1955, his programs were reaching 5.5 million households a week.

No record can be made of the thousands of sermons, speeches, and retreats Sheen gave over the decades, often to large audiences. When he was scheduled to preach at St. Patrick’s cathedral in New York City, 6,000 people regularly packed the church. On Easter Sunday 1941, 7,500 worshippers were jammed into the Cathedral, and 800 waited outside, hoping to get in. On Good Friday, his sermons were broadcast outdoors to the thousands standing outside St. Patrick’s. “For three hours,” the New York Times reported, “the heart of Manhattan’s most congested midtown area became a miniature St. Peter’s Square. The phenomenon is repeated for the evening service.” Many of his television shows, sermons, and speeches are still available on video and audiotape.

An intellectual, theologian, and philosopher of the first rank, Sheen was one of the Church in America’s most prolific writers. Over a period of 54 years, he was the author of 64 books. In addition, he published 65 booklets, pamphlets, and printed radio and television talks. He wrote countless magazine and newspaper articles. In the early 1950s, he was writing two regular newspaper columns, God Love You and Bishop Sheen Writes (which was syndicated in the secular press and ran for 30 years). He edited two magazines, one, Mission, for 16 years.

Sheen’s expertise included a wide variety of topics, from Aristotle, Augustine, and Thomas Aquinas to Karl Marx, Sigmund Freud, and John Dewey. His academic credentials were excellent; he was the first American to be awarded a rare postdoctorate degree from the prestigious University of Louvain. His linguistic achievements were admirable. His writing ability was also exceptional, his style being as lucid and yet consistently less pedantic than that of the great Anglican apologist, C.S. Lewis. More than a dozen of his books remain in print. Fifteen anthologies of his writings have appeared, four in the 1990s.

Servant of the people

The archbishop was one of the Church’s great missionaries. In 1979, the Jesuit magazine America called him “the greatest evangelizer in the history of the Catholic Church in the United States. He lavished personal attention on both rich and poor.” A reporter observed in 1952: “The bishop’s official date book, listing names of those he plans to see (‘I will see anybody with a spiritual problem’), regularly bulges with eight hundred to a thousand entries.” Thousands attended his convert classes. No one, of course, could count the hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, who came into the Church, wholly or in part, as a result of Sheen’s publications and media and personal appearances.

Sheen also had a passion about helping the world’s poor. As national director of the Society for the Propagation of the Faith from 1950 to 1966, he raised more money for the poor than any other American Catholic, an effort that was augmented by the donation of more than $10 million of his personal earnings. Not long before his death, he declared “My greatest love has always been the missions of the Church.”

He was decades ahead of others in his opposition to racism, raising funds and donating very large sums of personal income to help build a hospital and churches for blacks in Alabama. In the late 1920s, while Klansmen were riding through the streets of hundreds of American cities, Sheen was giving speeches stressing racial equality and brotherhood. In 1944, at a time when America’s armed forces were segregated, Sheen wrote of Christ’s “explicit command to love all men, regardless of race or class or color.” He strongly opposed anti-Semitism. “For a Catholic to be anti-Semitic,” he wrote during World War II, “is to be un-Catholic.” He had a special place in his heart for people disfigured by leprosy and disease.

Frequently outspoken, Sheen stirred controversy with strong statements on such topics as communism, socialism, the Spanish Civil War, World War II diplomacy, psychiatry, secularism, education, and the left in general. He often attacked liberal Protestantism: “Satan’s last assault was an effort to make religion worldly.” And yet Sheen defied efforts to place him on the political left or right. He was equally critical of monopolistic capitalists, irresponsible labor union leaders, and idealistic advocates of the welfare state. He eschewed all forms of earthly utopianism. Still, he often supported reform, eager to help create a world rid of inequality, insensitivity, hatred, crime, and corruption. In 1967, he fell under attack from the right by opposing the Vietnam War. He was the first American bishop to attempt to implement in a diocese the full teachings of the Second Vatican Council, producing severe criticism from conservatives.

A model for the American church

If Sheen wasn’t the holiest priest in the American Church (he harbored a few secrets, and his ambition, vanity, and luxurious lifestyle embarrassed him in his old age), there were surely few, at least among the Church’s intellectuals, who tried harder to be a model for others. Few colleagues surpassed his tenacious efforts, over such a long period, to adhere to Church teachings. His soul and mind rested on Church authority rather than the fads of his particular time and place. That trust, plus a rigorous prayer life, generated a peace and joy that influenced almost everyone who knew, met, saw, or heard Fulton J. Sheen.

Although he was a major figure in the Church by the early 1930s and lived until 1979, Sheen is primarily remembered as a man who helped set the tone of the 1950s. In April 1952, he appeared on the cover of Time magazine and was lionized as “perhaps the most famous preacher in the U.S., certainly America’s best-known Roman Catholic priest, and the newest star of U.S. television.” A spokesperson for the archdiocese of New York exclaimed, “He’s telegenic. He’s wonderful. The gestures, the timing, the voice. If he came out in a barrel and read the telephone book, they’d love him.”

The Time article provided biographical data, emphasizing the bishop’s humble background in rural and small-town Illinois. It commented on his many publications, sniffing slightly that the most popular books, such as Peace of Soul and Lift Up Your Heart, “were designed for the middle-brow reader.” It presented photographs of his most prominent converts: automobile magnate Henry Ford II, leftist writer Heywood Broun, author Clare Boothe Luce (wife of Time owner Henry Luce), former communist editor Louis Budenz, and famed violinist Fritz Kreisler. And it presented excerpts from his writings, such as: “America, it is said, is suffering from intolerance. It is not. It is suffering from tolerance: tolerance of right and wrong, truth and error, virtue and evil, Christ and chaos.... The man who can make up his mind in an orderly way, as a man might make up his bed, is called a bigot: but a man who cannot make up his mind, any more than he can make up for lost time, is called tolerant and broad minded.”

This celebration of religious certainty that characterized Sheen, and much of the 1950s in this country, has been responsible in part for his neglect at the hands of more recent historians and journalists. Especially since the upheavals of the 1960s and 1970s, it has become decidedly unfashionable in intellectual circles to talk about objective moral standards or to assert that one religion or denomination might be superior to another. Ideas have consequences: In recent years religion itself has been virtually banished from public education and rendered nearly invisible in the media (except, of course, reports on clerical malefactions).

The Catholic Church has been a major target of this animus; anti-Catholicism, often called the anti-Semitism of the intellectuals, has flourished in an age led by spiritual and moral relativists. Crisis’s own Deal W. Hudson has observed, “The Church attracts hatred because its very existence proclaims an Absolute standard to all.” A University of Michigan historian noted in 1993 that “the sexual politics of the past twenty years have kept alive — indeed, helped legitimize — the anti-Catholic bias that has long been part of academic life.”

Tolerance, diversity, multiculturalism, and reigning ideologies of the politically correct assume that one view of reality, as long as it isn’t conservative or supernatural, is as good as another. Sheen and others like him are often dismissed as mere relics of an unenlightened past that is best ignored. In American Catholic: The Saints and Sinners Who Built America’s Most Powerful Church, liberal writer Charles R. Morris uses Sheen to symbolize the “Church’s triumphal era in America,” a short-lived and backward period known principally for its “extraordinary ideological self-confidence,” Mariolatry, and “the Church’s obsessive anticommunism.”

Sheen’s staunch and well-known anticommunism stance undoubtedly contributes to his lack of appeal for many modern intellectuals. A few examples could include: Donald F. Crosby’s God, Church, and Flag: Senator Joseph R. McCarthy and the Catholic Church, 1950-1957, wherein he devotes a page to Sheen, noting that he “poured forth a gushing stream of books, articles, pamphlets, sermons, and speeches” attacking the theory and dynamics of communism and emphasizing its opposition to Roman Catholicism. David Caute, in The Great Fear: The Anti-Communist Purge Under Truman and Eisenhower, observes that Sheen “played the leading role” in courting excommunist informers into the Church. Richard Gid Powers, in Not Without Honor: The History of American Anticommunism, notes Sheen’s radio sermons attacking communism and cites an anticommunist speech he gave before the American Legion’s All-American Conference in 1950.

Still, each of these books reveals only a superficial knowledge of Sheen, largely gleaned from newspapers.

Sadly, the archbishop has been criticized by academics for abandoning his scholarly discipline and writing for the masses. C.S. Lewis was attacked for the same reason. Even the sympathetic Time story cited above contained this criticism. Sophisticated readers looking at the likes of the slight volume, Prayer Book for Our Times; the collection of columns published as Children and Parents; and These Are the Sacraments, with its large number of absurdly pompous photos of Sheen, might easily conclude that the author was merely a media personality and an intellectual lightweight.

In reply, it must be said that Sheen was essentially a missionary. He might have spent his life writing for philosophy journals. Instead, he reached out to as many people as possible, convinced that human souls were more important than scholarly disputation. Still, the intellectual level of his publications never descended very far. Anyone who reads These Are the Sacraments, as well as looks at the photographs, will discover a learned, sound, and appealing exposition of Church teaching. Children and Parents is both wise and thoughtful. It also bears pointing out that Sheen produced many volumes to raise funds for the world’s poor. Almost all the royalties from his books after 1950 went to the Society for the Propagation of the Faith, and the proceeds from his sponsored television programs were devoted to the same cause.

Piecing together his past

Until now, there has been no full-scale biography of Fulton J. Sheen. The two most widely quoted books on him, Missionary with a Mike and The Passion of Fulton Sheen, are extremely similar to each other and were written by a disgruntled priest, D.P. Noonan, who was one of the very few people Sheen ever fired. Both books contain useful insights but are sometimes misleading and unreliable. Amazingly, only a single, unpublished doctoral dissertation has been written by a historian.

Treatment of Sheen has been all too shallow. He is mentioned, for example, only once in David J. O’Brien’s American Catholics and Social Reform: The New Deal Years, and it is in a condescending sentence linked with the extremist Fr. Charles Coughlin. In William M. Halsey’s The Survival of American Innocence: Catholicism in an Era of Disillusionment, 1920-1940, Sheen is simply dismissed as “the Catholic counterpart of Norman Vince Peale and Billy Graham,” while his Thomism is rejected as “a vehicle for domination.”

One would think that Catholic scholars today might pay more attention to the good archbishop. University of Notre Dame historian Jay P. Dolan in The American Catholic Experience: A History from Colonial Times to the Present calls Sheen, in a brief paragraph, a “true Catholic hero” for his achievements in the media. But the sole source cited for his comments on Sheen is an obituary from a Rochester, New York, newspaper! Similar examples are difficult to find. This may be an example of how Catholic academics have internalized the anti-Catholicism of the mainstream intellectual culture.

College textbooks also slight Sheen. John A. Garraty’s extremely popular The American Nation doesn’t mention him. Dewey W. Gratham in his work Recent America: The United States Since 1945 cited Sheen only once. His book Peace of Soul is linked with Norman Vincent Peale’s The Power of Positive Thinking, and both are relegated to the “cult of reassurance” and the “peace of mind” religion of the postwar years.

Sheen did not make the historian’s task easy. He apparently destroyed virtually all of the letters that passed across his desk in the course of his lengthy career. In 1976, he approved the creation of a Sheen archive in the Diocese of Rochester and agreed to donate his huge personal library, collections of newspaper clippings, and other memorabilia. But after his death, Rochester authorities discovered that only a handful of letters survived. The files of the Society for the Propagation of the Faith yielded next to nothing, and the archives of the Catholic University of America, where he taught for almost a quarter century, offered little more. The Diocese of Peoria, the Archdiocese of New York, and the Diocese of Rochester, places closely identified with Sheen, possessed surprisingly little.

This attitude toward his correspondence is puzzling. He did not give many interviews, and it may be that he simply cherished his privacy. In 1946, he told reporter Kenneth Stewart that he would prefer not to have a story written about him, dismissing publicity as “artificial as rouge on the cheek. Doing the job is the important thing, even if you’re a street cleaner.” Still, he had nearly finished an autobiography when death came to call. And he had agreed to donate, at his death, the potentially explosive details of a dark secret: his private correspondence with Cardinal Spellman, with whom he had endured a decade of intense, although unpublicized, feuding. That the documents wound up elsewhere was not Sheen’s fault.

Perhaps the solution to the puzzle is simply that in the course of a very busy life filled with travel and moving personal belongings from residence to residence, he lacked the inclination to carry about an enormous number of letters. How enormous? In 1946 alone, he was writing between 150 and 200 letters a day. In the early 1950s, according to Sheen, the television show was generating between 15,000 and 25,000 letters per day, and he tried to answer as many as his schedule allowed.

It may be that he never preserved his correspondence. Matthew Paratore, a friend who knew him in the 1960s and 1970s, noted that Sheen was not at all interested in his past. He did not act like an old man and was not given to reminiscence. He wanted at all times to be current — to read the latest books and articles, to be youthful and relevant. In any case, Sheen letters and documents are to be found in a wide assortment of other manuscript collections. Scores of people who knew him have been willing, often eager, to speak for the record and his relatives have been extremely cooperative. They preserve an abundance of photographs and documents, along with their recollections.

An enduring treasure

The Sheen story is about a remarkable man whose spiritual intensity was the primary force that propelled him throughout his life. His life in the Church spans one of the most exciting periods in the venerable institution’s history, from an era characterized by growth, discipline, evangelism, self-confidence, and exclusivity, to the post-Vatican II period known for its change, dissent, disillusionment, ecumenism, and openness to the modern world.

Because of Sheen’s wide interests, his story encompasses virtually every major political, social, and cultural development of the 1920s through the 1970s. Fulton J. Sheen’s brilliance, knowledge, acuity, devotion, and incredible energy compel the biographer to reflect on the history of the nation as well as the individual.

In recent years, steps have been taken to beatify the archbishop. On the 20th anniversary of Sheen’s death, John Cardinal O’Connor of New York formally initiated the lengthy process. The Church will do well to give the cause serious scrutiny. Saint or not, here was an American Catholic in whom we can all take pride, a man who made — and continues to make — an enormous difference in the lives of millions.

Works by Fulton J. Sheen

God and Intelligence, 1925 Philosophy of Religion, 1948
Religion Without God, 1928 Peace of Soul, 1949

The Life of All Living, 1929 Rev. Ed. 1979
Lift Up Your Heart, 1950
The Divine Romance, 1930 Three to Get Married, 1951

Old Errors and New Labels, 1931
The World’s First Love, 1952
Moods and Truths, 1932 Life Is Worth Living, Vol. 1, 1953
Way of the Cross, 1932 Life Is Worth Living, Vol. 2, 1954
Seven Last Words, 1933 The Life of Christ, 1954
Hymn of the Conquered, 1933 Way to Happiness, 1954

The Eternal Galilean, 1934
Way to Inner Peace, 1954
Philosophy of Science, 1934 God Loves You, 1955
The Mystical Body of Christ, 1935 Thinking Life Through, 1955
Calvary and the Mass, 1936 Thoughts for Daily Living, 1955
The Moral Universe, 1936 Life Is Worth Living, Vol. 3, 1955
The Cross and the Beatitudes, 1937 Life Is Worth Living, Vol. 4, 1956
The Cross and the Crisis, 1938 Life Is Worth Living, Vol. 5, 1957
Liberty, Equality and Fraternity, 1938 Life of Christ, 1958; Rev. Ed. 1977
The Rainbow of Sorrow, 1938 This Is The Mass, 1958; Rev. Ed. 1965
Victory over Vice, 1939 This Is Rome, 1960
Whence Come Wars, 1940 Go to Heaven, 1960
The Seven Virtues, 1940 This Is the Holy Land, 1961
For God and Country, 1941 These Are the Sacraments, 1962
A Declaration of Dependence, 1941 The Priest Is Not His Own, 1963
God and War and Peace, 1942 Missions and the World Crisis, 1964
The Divine Verdict, 1943 The Power of Love, 1965
The Armor of God, 1943 Walk with God, 1965
Philosophies at War, 1943 Christmas Inspirations, 1966
Seven Words to the Cross, 1944 Footprints in a Darkened Forest, 1966
Seven Pillars of Peace, 1944 Guide to Contentment, 1967
Love One Another, 1944 Easter Inspirations, 1967
Seven Words of Jesus and Mary, 1945 Those Mysterious Priests, 1974
Preface to Religion, 1946 Life Is Worth Living, First and Second Series Abridged,

Characters of the Passion, 1946
1978 Treasure in Clay, 1980

Jesus, Son of Mary, 1947
Communism and the Conscience of the West, 1948

TOPICS: Catholic; History; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: fultonsheen; sheen

1 posted on 03/09/2014 1:11:05 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

2 posted on 03/09/2014 1:11:42 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

A prophetic statement, for sure.

3 posted on 03/09/2014 1:14:19 PM PDT by tioga
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To: NYer
In 1967, he fell under attack from the right by opposing the Vietnam War. He was the first American bishop to attempt to implement in a diocese the full teachings of the Second Vatican Council, producing severe criticism from conservatives.

Seems like he moved left as he got older.

4 posted on 03/09/2014 1:18:37 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: NYer
I remember as a child watching Archbishop Sheen every week with my mother and brother. A show like his wouldn't be done on mainstream tv today, thanks to the godless people who control Hollywood and the media.
5 posted on 03/09/2014 1:19:36 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy; tioga
Many of us here grew up watching Bishop Sheen on television. EWTN still airs re-runs of his program Life is Worth Living. You can also listen to many of those programs at this link: Archbishop Fulton Sheen's Radio Catechism
6 posted on 03/09/2014 1:26:34 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

His broadcasts did a great deal of good For many of us.

7 posted on 03/09/2014 1:28:20 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (")
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People today have no idea how popular Bishop Sheen’s TV program was. He was watched by both Catholics and protestants. My fundamentalist protestant parents and grandparents wouldn’t miss a show. I recall that my Grandmother in particular was a big fan.

8 posted on 03/09/2014 1:35:03 PM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: NYer
“Few Americans hate the Catholic Church, but millions hate what they think is the Catholic Church”. —Bishop Fulton Sheen
9 posted on 03/09/2014 1:37:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Another favorite of mine.

THE FIRST WORD OF JESUS in the Gospel was “come”; the last word of Jesus was “go.” Ven. Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen

10 posted on 03/09/2014 1:42:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Thank you. I have watched some of the shows on EWTN. They are timeless.

11 posted on 03/09/2014 1:52:41 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: NYer

Great Article.

12 posted on 03/09/2014 1:58:28 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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Bishop Sheen videos online..
13 posted on 03/09/2014 2:05:50 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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He was brilliant. As a college student, I happened to work in the (now long defunct) Schraffts across the street from the old pre-fire St Agnes Church, where he used to preach. They had loudspeakers set up in the street so people who couldn’t get into the church could hear him.

14 posted on 03/09/2014 2:11:27 PM PDT by livius
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To: faithhopecharity
Me and my family were Protestant, but we always enjoyed Archbishop Sheen's programs.
15 posted on 03/09/2014 2:14:40 PM PDT by quadrant (1o)
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To: NYer

I loved to watch Bishop Fulton J. Sheen and his “Life is Worth Living” TV program. I learned a lot from this great teacher . . . and I’m not a Catholic. I have never found another that could teach morality and faith like he could.

16 posted on 03/09/2014 2:15:47 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: NYer

I think the last Bishop Sheen thread on here had the “What’s My Line?” episode he was on... and there was a Freeper that stated he was confirmed by him...

I was raised Protestant, but have always enjoyed watching reruns of his “Life is Worth Living” series.

17 posted on 03/09/2014 2:57:59 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: NYer
Life of Christ
18 posted on 03/09/2014 3:03:24 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

One of his masterpieces! I have quoted from it on different threads.

19 posted on 03/09/2014 3:20:37 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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20 posted on 03/09/2014 3:38:32 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: livius
I lived for several years (5) in the area of the old and new St. Agnes! I was a little too young for Cardinal Sheen's tv show but how I loved the sermons at St. Agnes. A very intellectual community in an area of mostly, let's face it, commuters. I was there the day that beautiful, if modest, church burned down.
21 posted on 03/09/2014 3:42:55 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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Terrible! The old church was sort of a creaky monstrosity (literally, it creaked) with horrible statuary, but it was what it was, and Sheen did a wonderful job there. I don’t remember anything about his programs because I was just a tot when he went off the air.

I wasn’t there when the church burned but I was horrified I read about it the next day and I went down to see the ruins.

They did a great job on rebuilding it, but I no longer live in NY so I only go there once in a while when I’m in town.

That said, I do think Sheen should be canonized. He and Spellman didn’t get along very well, and Spellman assigned him to Rochester as a punishment. He rose to the challenge, although unfortunately he did some PC things that I think were mainly to prove what a good soldier he was (condemning the Vietnam war, trying to give away diocesan property to some black group, etc.). He was there for somewhat less than 3 years before his death.

However, the unfortunate thing was that this set the diocese on a bad course, which its subsequent bishops only fulfilled. But that was surely not Sheen’s intention.

The new bishop sounds good, and I hope he’ll be able to recover the diocese.

22 posted on 03/09/2014 4:08:18 PM PDT by livius
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Salvation

Bishop Sheen is correct: There are elements of truth in every religion. And there is nothing man alone can do to convert people to the Catholic Church. We can only present the absolute truth of her teachings and leave the rest up to the Holy Spirit. As Salvation pointed out: “Few Americans hate the Catholic Church, but millions hate what they think is the Catholic Church”. —Bishop Fulton Sheen

23 posted on 03/09/2014 4:08:20 PM PDT by verga (Poor spiritual health is often manifested with poor physical health.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It is the greatest book I have ever read...a treasure to be enjoyed time and again.

24 posted on 03/09/2014 7:08:05 PM PDT by LisaFab
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To: NYer

What an awesome quotation!

25 posted on 03/09/2014 7:32:28 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: NYer

Here’s another good quotation by Bishop Sheen:

“Why can’t the modern mind see there is nothing new in Communism/Socialism? It is a groan of despair, not the revolution that starts a new age. It is the logical development of a civilization which for the last 400 years has been forgetting God. I’m beginning to believe there are only two classes of people: those who believe and those who want to believe. The new era into which we are entering is what might be called the religious phase of human history. But do not misunderstand: by religious we do not mean that men will turn to God, but rather that the indifference to the absolute which characterized the liberal phase of civilization will be succeeded by a passion for an absolute. From now on the struggle will be not for colonies and national rights, but for the souls of men . . . The conflict of the future is between the absolute who is the God-man and the absolute which is the man-God “ - Fulton J. Sheen, Apr. 14, 1952.

26 posted on 03/09/2014 7:37:06 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Fiji Hill

Sheen was never a man of the left. He was Catholic and a very orthodox Catholic. He opposed the Vietnam War because the Vietnam War did not meet Catholic Just War principles. He tried to implement full teachings of the Second Vatican Council because what was exactly what he was supposed to do.

27 posted on 03/09/2014 10:23:56 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("I got a good Christin' raisin', an 8th grade education, ain't no need ya'll treatin' me this way")
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To: livius

St. Agnes was always a highly intellectual church. The sermons alone were well worth attendance. I liked the old church with it’s statuary. I believe I contributed some money to replace them. Of course, then we had the scandal of Father Clark which sort of soured my love for St. Agnes...

28 posted on 03/10/2014 4:43:49 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I always reread This book. One of the greatest ever written on Christ. Awesome.

29 posted on 03/10/2014 9:13:09 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: NKP_Vet

And to undermine the war effort when we had forces committed. Is that exactly what he was supposed to do too?

There’s a word for that.

30 posted on 03/10/2014 9:19:29 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

He tried to end a war that should never have been started in the first place. The Vietnam War was started, and by that statement I meant started by LBJ who expanded the US presence to make himself richer and the war profiteers that he gave big, fat government contracts to because they helped him in his elections for years. When the war started LBJ was worth about a million dollars. When it ended he was worth 10 times that much. He and his old lady were Flying Tigers Airlines biggest shareholders. Flying Tigers flew the majority of GIs to and from Vietnam.

31 posted on 03/10/2014 9:54:39 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("I got a good Christin' raisin', an 8th grade education, ain't no need ya'll treatin' me this way")
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To: johngrace; LisaFab; NYer
32 posted on 03/10/2014 11:34:59 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: NKP_Vet

I flew back and forth on United.

And it’s personal with me having been in the thick of combat there several times, and knowing that our military was capable of kicking the living crap out of the NVA, and that we didn’t largely ‘cause of guys like Cronkite, Kerry and Sheen.

I’d had always liked the good Bishop. But Ho Chi Minh and his bunch were entrenched hard core commies which Sheen had always rallied against. To borrow a phrase from “12 O’clock High”, “Seems like we got us a talking Bishop.”

33 posted on 03/10/2014 4:43:33 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

You saw what sustained bombing of Hanoi could do during Operation Linebacker. If we had started the bombing of Hanoi in 1965 and turned it into a parking lot the war would have ended 10 years earlier. Politicians didn’t want the war to end. Like I said LBJ made a fortune off the war. I also flew back and forth on United, but Flying Tiger was used extensively, and ole LBJ and Lady Bird were major stock holders. As they were major stock holders in Brown & Root. And although Sheen was a critic of the war he didn’t go on TV every night and end his newscast by saying we couldn’t win the war. That was traitor Cronkite. And that lying dog Kerry should have been brought up on treason charges for saying US soldiers were committing war crimes and that he had “personally” witnessed and participated in these so-called war crimes. He was a lying SOB and was allowed to lie to Congress without any repercusions whatsover. Most of the Kerry collaborators that were part of these so-called Winter Soldier hearings were never in the military and if they were never sat foot in Vietnam. Now the traitor is Sec of State. What a crock.

34 posted on 03/10/2014 6:16:47 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("I got a good Christin' raisin', an 8th grade education, ain't no need ya'll treatin' me this way")
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