Skip to comments.Supposed ‘Christian’ Dad Claims Gay Son is No Sinner
Posted on 03/16/2014 3:03:11 PM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Chris has a gay son. He neglected to mention that when I met him at a business event the week before last, when we talked a little politics, when he invited me to join him and his buds for their weekly golf game.
All was amicable on the golf course. As it turned out, two of the guys were fellow conservatives. And two others happened to be members of my church.
But things got twisted when our two foursomes sat down for post-round libations and conversation. Thats because Chris, a social liberal, an Obama-loving Democrat, insisted on talking politics.
And particularly about homosexual rights.
He made the pseudo-scientific claim that homosexuality was an immutable trait, like race or gender. And the church-going Presbyterian claimed there is no Biblical basis for declaring homosexuality a sin.
So I challenged him on both claims. And my fellow conservatives, my fellow church members backed me.
Having lost the debate he started, my golf host stood up and angrily stalked out of the clubhouse, leaving the other seven of us sitting there. Thats when one of the guys confided to me that Chris has a gay son.
His was the typical reaction by social liberals who have a family member or friend or business associate or even acquaintance who is gay.
The social libs not only delude themselves that homosexuality is perfectly normal, not only deceive themselves that homosexuality is perfectly acceptable to God, they also insist that those of us who are social conservatives, who are Bible-believing Christ followers, agree with them.
Otherwise, they slander us as homophobes.
But the word of God declares, Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Indeed, those of us who oppose homosexuality on Biblical grounds are very much like Lot, who lived in the ancient city of Sodom, who was visited by two angels of the Lord, whose home was surrounded by the men of the city who wanted to have to have their way, sexually, with his visitors.
Please, my brethren, Lot pleaded, do not do so wickedly! See now, I have two daughters who have not known a man; please, let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you wish.
Lots gay neighbors were offended. He keeps acting as a judge, they murmured among themselves.
They deluded themselves that evil was good, that darkness was light. Just like Chris, who hosted me for golf, who insisted his gay son is normal; that his sons sexual preference for men was okay by God.
Well, Ive never met Chris boy. But I think I actually love him more than his dad does. Because I dont want him to befall the fate of the homosexuals of Sodom, on whom God rained brimstone and fire. They all died in their unrepentant sin and will spend eternity separated from God.
Indeed, even if I accepted the dubious, politically-motivated science that there is a supposed gay gene, that homosexuality is a supposed immutable human trait, I would continue to believe homosexuality a sin.
And to those attracted to men, like Chris son, I would urge them to crucify the flesh with its passions and lusts; to present their bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God. And I would encourage that they pray that God lead them not into temptation, but deliver them from their desire for strange flesh.
Those of us who are social conservatives, who are Christ followers, are not homophobes. We do not hate gays.
We speak the truth to them in love that homosexuality was and is and always will be a sin. And that the Bible warns that homosexuals shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
We also encourage them that the Lord desires that none would perish, but that all should come to repentance. And that if those who are gay confess their sins rather than denying that homosexuality in a sin in the eyes of God He is faithful and just to forgive them and cleanse them of all unrighteousness.
Attraction between men and women is natural, but that doesn't mean that cohabitation or "the hookup culture" aren't sinful.
Chris is no Christian. In fact, he’s the antithesis of Christian.
True homophobes are spineless and weak minded individuals who support the homosexual agenda from fear of suffering reprisals if they don’t.
Sad that this man’s son was indoctrinated to be a homo.
Bet the kid went to pulbik skool.
i’ve lost people as friends because they have gay relatives and they did the same thing this guy did.
“Chris has a gay son. He neglected to mention that when I met him at a business event the week before last...”
How does one trust a businessman after he neglects to mention such facts upon meeting him?
My in-laws are very much like this b/c of their gay son. He’s a good guy, but I’ll never bow to their “it’s all good” whim so they can feel better about themselves.
what is sad is they don’t love him enough to be honest with him to save his soul.
it’s like we’ll feed you and tell you good things in this life, but we don’t care about you enough to make sure your future in eternity is with Christ.
They will suffer blame for his loss as well.
People can struggle with homosexuality and still be a follower of Christ. But they have to recognize that there struggle with it is a struggle with SIN.
I sometimes have trouble with temper....sinful explosions of anger, as opposed to explosions of righteous anger. I am working, by the grace of God, to stop these behaviors.
So this fellow who thinks sodomy is cool with God is dead wrong.
I hope you’re being sarcastic.
Not to bust his bubble but the “immutable” characteristic of human flesh is a sin.
So, that dog don’t hunt, dad.
You're absolutely right, but I'm sure you also know that such people see that kind of honesty as "hate." They'd rather deny any possible eternal consequences (which they say they don't believe will happen because he's a good person) in order to spare his feelings in this life. Sad.
yup, had the venom tossed at me.
The real problem is accepting that people who engage in homosexual acts are a different sort of human being. Left to their own devises. human being act out sexually in a myriad different ways. Men have had sex with everything from the family pooch to sex toys. Do we have to accept that having sex with an ewe is something genetically determined?
I think you need to tackle the issue with intellectual honesty. You cannot defeat the emotional argument of someone with a personal relation to the issue, unless you are very well versed in the subject, in modern science as well as classical theology and philosophy of law and ethics.
I think the main problem is this belief that sodomy is not a sin like adultery and theft. People largely do still find adultery to be wrong. Adulterers are shamed in most circles. But the environment we’re in right now speaks of ‘homosexuals’ as an exalted class who are actually detached from the acts they perform. I have absolute sympathy for someone who has a child be brainwashed into thinking same-sex attraction is immutable and unchanging (contrary to most scholarship on the subject). When its your flesh and blood, tangled in emotional confusion, I can see how fathers are swayed, but you have to point out that homosexuality does not make people happy. Its happy for the rich queers in Hollywood who get their T.V. shows, or the couples pumped with millions of dollars to overturn state laws, but who is the average homosexual? He’s likely to be alcoholic, on drugs, being physically abused if in a relationship, contemplating suicide, suffering from other psychological maladies. It is not a fun life. It’s a life without purpose in terms of continuing genetic code.
What would I do if my son told me he was feeling these things? That’s a question often posed by libs (although the chances as a percentage are very remote). I would go through scripture with him, show him God’s plan for human sexuality and wellbeing. I would share with him the statistics and facts surrounding the lifestyle and what it means. I would share with him the fact that many more people than are actually homosexual go through a phase of homosexuality which fades in time. I would make clear to him that I cannot and never would affirm sodomy or any illicit sexual activities, because of my sincere belief in God’s law. I could not attend any sham marriage or allow his ‘partners’ into my house.
But I would preface this entirely with the fact that he would always be welcome. That I love him no matter what he does. I’d love him if he were a junkie, a drunk, a convict, even a murderer. Because God has also told me I should love even my enemies, how could I hate my son? Ultimately, in a free society, he will make his choices. I can only offer my advice, and that is that sodomy is not healthy, moral, or sensible.
Kind’a like some dude who proclaims, “I am not gay, but my boyfriend is.” Whatever. This planet makes very very little sense any longer.
I feel sorry for the guy. How hard would it be to have a child that you know for sure if they don’t change their ways they are probably bound for hell. IT would be easy to buy into the Liberal BS that being gay is not a choice to sooth your troubled soul. Having smooth words spoken to you does not change the truth and will not save his son. Confronting reality and the truth about yourself is how you find true peace in God!
uhhh... I’m sure you didn’t intend to open this can of worms, but what is your definition of sodomy relative to heterosexual couples (i.e. man and wife)?
And I’m not trying to be a wise guy. But the definition varies.
And that is the worst thing that could ever happen to someone, in all of creation. God will NEVER think they have suffered enough, to be let out of Hell. What a scary thought, but no one needs to go there.