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1 posted on 03/18/2014 2:14:03 AM PDT by markomalley
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Msgr Pope ping


2 posted on 03/18/2014 2:14:23 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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Ping!


3 posted on 03/18/2014 3:46:23 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: markomalley

I need Jesus; however, I don’t need the corrupt institution that the church has become.


4 posted on 03/18/2014 4:58:34 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Shoot cops that shoot dogs.)
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To: markomalley

You don’t need to join the fan club to love the music.


5 posted on 03/18/2014 5:03:16 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: markomalley

Where two are gathered is called a marriage and when three or more are gathered is called a family, not a church, and Jesus is there in there midst.

Jesus said, “Abide in me, and I in you.”

It is all about the Spirit of Christ abiding in you, and has nothing to with rules, dogma, sacraments, buildings, fonts, holy water, altars, pews, priests, confessionals, catechisms, statues and statutes, rosary beads, crosses, incense, and chalices. That is all noise and distraction.

People would well to just humbly seek the Holy Spirit everyday and avoid all other gobbledeegook.


8 posted on 03/18/2014 5:41:53 AM PDT by Boanarges
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To: markomalley

God Bless Msgr. Pope!


10 posted on 03/18/2014 5:43:41 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: markomalley

The story of C.S. Lewis comes to mind whenever I hear this question. Lewis was always questioning everything, and at some point in his questioning (as described in his book “Surprised by Joy”) he came to the knowledge of the existence of God. And - given that there is a God - He was worthy of our worship. He therefore went to church simply to worship God - but he really did not like it. It took about a year, but eventually he found (was found by) Jesus and the rest - as they say - is history.

If you believe in God - then He is worthy of our worship. Period!


15 posted on 03/18/2014 6:54:28 AM PDT by impactplayer
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To: markomalley
Msgr. Charles Pope

Everyone's their own pope?

Looks like this guy's ahead in the race!

21 posted on 03/18/2014 8:27:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: markomalley
Who Needs the Church? You might as well ask, “Who needs Jesus?”

Or, one can just ASK Jesus!!


 
 
 

Micah 6:8

He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?

To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.


John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


 
1 John 3:21-23

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him.

 And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.


James 1:27 

Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

 

22 posted on 03/18/2014 8:28:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: markomalley
When you start out with a lie, the whole mess becomes a lie...

II. To those who say, “I can have Jesus without the Church,” I say “no can do.” For the Church is the body of Christ and it pertains to the head of a living Body to be found with his body, not apart from it.

Mar_16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Jesus has not come down from heaven since he ascended...You guys just mock Jesus when you tell these false tales...

23 posted on 03/18/2014 8:35:24 AM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: markomalley

One goes to church in order to practice loving your neighbor as Jesus commanded. One can love his neighbors elsewhere, of course, but where else will you find a more challenging group of neighbors to love?

Remember he also said that loving those who love you back doesn’t do all that much for your spiritual growth... It’s loving your enemies that is really important. If you attend church long enough, you’ll have plenty of great opportunities to love your enemies; and also give other people a few yourself.


31 posted on 03/18/2014 3:57:26 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: markomalley
I. To those who reject that anything special is to be found in the Church that cannot be found elsewhere...

I would note that believers even back to the beginning apparently disagreed with you.

II. To those who say, “I can have Jesus without the Church”...

I would say Paul (under the influence of the Holy Spirit) apparently disagreed with you.

III. To those who say, “I can read my Bible alone”...and IV. To those who say “I can watch Church on TV”...

I would say that neither of those are provided for in the Bible, not least because III simply wasn’t a realistic option for at minimum three-quarters of Church history and IV wasn’t a realistic option up until the last fifty years or so. Even radio’s only about a century old. Streaming on a home computer? Twenty years, tops. Streaming on your mobile phone? Ten. Turn off the tube, turn off the radio, shut down the computer, leave your freaking phone in the car and go to church. If I can manage that, you can manage that.

V. To those who say, “I like Jesus but I can’t stand the Church, with all those hypocrites”...”

I would say that if you think you’re better than they are, either you are, in which case you’re a remarkable human being, or you’re kidding yourself. I’m betting on the latter.

VI. To those who say “It’s the institution of the Church I object to, not the Body of Christ”...

I would say that you’re trying to make a distinction that the Bible itself never did. From the start of Jesus’ ministry on, the Church always has been, not some spiritualized thing, but, for better or worse, those guys over there, in the Temple courts, in the upper room, in Jerusalem, throughout Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.

And

VII. To those who say that the Church is irrelevant, outdated, and arrogant because it does not reflect the modern age or most of its members...

I would say that (a) since human nature has changed remarkably little since the Fall, let alone the time of the Gospels and Acts, the Church’s mission to be a contradiction to that sinful nature is therefore as up to date and relevant as it was then; and (b) news flash, kids: It’s called the Kingdom of God, not the Democracy of God.

38 posted on 03/18/2014 8:12:18 PM PDT by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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To: markomalley
Points I to VII refer merely to "the Church," which is presumably the body of Christ.

The conclusion is a non sequitur:

"Therefore, the Catholic Church . . ."

Where in the Bible does it equate the Body of Christ with the Catholic Church?

43 posted on 03/18/2014 8:38:33 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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