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Steven D. Greydanus Reviews ‘Noah’(National Catholic Register)
http://www.ncregister.com ^ | March 21, 2014 | Steven D. Greydanus

Posted on 03/21/2014 10:51:24 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

Darren Aronofsky’s Noah pays its source material a rare compliment: It takes Genesis seriously as a landmark of world literature and ancient moral reflection, and a worthy source of artistic inspiration in our day.

It is not a “Bible movie” in the usual sense, with all the story beats predetermined by the text, and actors in ancient Near Eastern couture hitting their marks and saying all the expected things. It is something more vital, surprising and confounding: a work of art and imagination that makes this most familiar of tales strange and new: at times illuminating the text, at times stretching it to the breaking point, at times inviting cross-examination and critique.

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Steven D. Greydanus is the Register’s film critic and creator of Decent Films. He is studying for the permanent diaconate for the Archdiocese of Newark, New Jersey.
1 posted on 03/21/2014 10:51:24 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Waiting for personal reviews from Freepers.


2 posted on 03/21/2014 10:57:58 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: NKP_Vet

Thanks for posting. I’ll go see it.


3 posted on 03/21/2014 11:00:47 AM PDT by marron
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To: NKP_Vet

I am flexible enough to be happy with good, appropriate dialogue that is not taken directly from the Bible. If the writer/director gave Noah lines to help convey the Genesis story, or even to put other parts of the Bible in context, I would have no problem with that. However, if they change the meaning of the story, I have a huge problem with the script. Even after reading the review, I’m still unsure of this movie (which I think was the author’s intent).


4 posted on 03/21/2014 11:01:54 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: NKP_Vet

I haven’t seen it. But I would be careful about believing this review. The National Catholic Register is known among orthodox Catholics as the National Catholic Fishwrap.

It’s pretty much the New York Times in drag.


5 posted on 03/21/2014 11:06:41 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Pollster1

If I heard right the movie at no time mentions God by name. Kind of hard to relay the biblical meaning without naming the author/creator.


6 posted on 03/21/2014 11:19:22 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative
If I heard right the movie at no time mentions God by name.

That is kind of hard to believe. Why would Noah have built the Ark in the first place?
Was he the first 'Climate Scientist' and determined that mankind was burning too many fossil fuels (or maybe they weren't fossils at the time -- maybe they were just burning too many dinosaurs on the BBQ pit), and that the polar caps would soon melt (all at once)?
I will pass on the movie -- but I'll keep an eye on the reviews here...

7 posted on 03/21/2014 11:28:42 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Cicero

” The National Catholic Register is known among orthodox Catholics as the National Catholic Fishwrap.”

I think you mean the National Catholic Reporter, aka National Catholic Distorter. I wasn’t aware the REgister had any issues with orthodoxy.


8 posted on 03/21/2014 11:52:48 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Bitter clinger & creepy-ass cracker)
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To: Cicero

You are mixing up the National Catholic Register with the National Catholic Reporter, which is a leftist site.
National Catholic Register is owned by EWTN, founded by the very orthodox Mother Angelica.


9 posted on 03/21/2014 12:01:19 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant" - John Henry Cardinal Newman)
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To: NKP_Vet

I haven’t seen the movie, but as for myths of climate change back is the days of ancient Sumer (or, Sumeria):

Some Sumerologists (how ‘bout that word?) argue that Sumer poisoned its soil by continuous irrigation with brackish water. Thus, the land between the Tigris and the Euphrates that HAD BEEN able to support wheat became calcified and unable to support agriculture of any kind.

(Some fold over-population onto this. That is, the Sumerians attempted to grow too much.)

I’ll speak to this as an economist: it is not reasonable for farmers who own the land to kill their own land. Farmers love the land. It is precious. They are the natural naturalists among us. Only, they’re practical people. Not ideologues. They love the land. Not worship it. Think about a hindu and a cow versus a milk farmer and a cow.

So, if those ancient farmers owned the land, they would have charged increasing prices, reflecting the alternative of trucking produce in from further and further distances; instead of over-working the land. As for soil conservation, just because those farmers were born a long time ago doesn’t mean they were stupid. So-called primitive farmers knew about fertilizer and about crop rotation.

As to what might explain the exhaustion of the land:

1.Communist farming. Communist-ownership of resources tends to lead to short-term exploitation and exhaustion. Communists have no natural incentive to conserve the value of land. If they dissipate the value of land, somebody else suffers. But, a private landowner has a personal stake in maintaining the value of land. They WILL preserve the land.

2.Climate change. Yes, climate change. Volcanoes and such disrupting the normal course of things, perhaps long enough for collapse of civilization (a dark ages) or for barbarians to conquer. Think of the Europeans. They fell into a dark ages, we think, because of a massive volcanic eruption combined with low crop yields, weakened population, and spread of disease.

3.Conquest (independent of #2).

INDEED, as Idb Kaldhun was the first to hypothesize, the normal course of civilization is one of growth, corruption and decline.

We know that after some kind of event, which just might have been the flood, the first civilization in that place was wiped out and a new civilization arose in its place. The Bible tells us about the Tower of Babel following the flood. And, the Tower of Babel civilization collapsed. I think the archeological record supports not one but a series of ancient civilizations in that part of the world.


10 posted on 03/21/2014 12:03:20 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: NKP_Vet

“in Our image”

Refers to mankind’s spiritual nature, NOT our physical nature.


11 posted on 03/21/2014 12:03:49 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: All
< creative reworking of Scripture and other ancient Jewish and rabbinic writings

Recently, I am not a good Christian by any stretch of the imagination. Still, this is a non starter for me. You do not re-work, rewrite, or whatever. Wanna tell a Bible story, tell a Bible story. Don't write a "creative" work and call it a Bible story.

12 posted on 03/21/2014 12:08:35 PM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Turbo Pig

Plus when you do a movie based on a Bible story, for all purposes, you are giving a sermon. If a movie is done on a Bible story, for goodness sakes, be faithful to the Bible.


13 posted on 03/21/2014 12:29:55 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Cicero; NKP_Vet
....I would be careful about believing this review. The National Catholic Register is known among orthodox Catholics as the National Catholic Fishwrap. It’s pretty much the New York Times in drag.

That would be the National Catholic Reporter. This review was found in the National Catholic Register, which IIRC is owned by EWTN. It's easy to confuse the two names - I've made the same mistake myself on more than one occasion.

14 posted on 03/21/2014 12:40:01 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: NKP_Vet

Author’s website:

http://www.decentfilms.com/


15 posted on 03/21/2014 1:02:55 PM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: Redmen4ever
So-called primitive farmers knew about fertilizer and about crop rotation.

You are correct. So-called primitive soldiers and farmers also knew about plowing salt into fields. There was a well-documented symbolic ritual of salting a conquered enemy's fields to symbolize absolute power over the enemy, and there are less specific reports of actual destruction through salting. I don't believe any real farmer (communists excluded) could fail to know the effect of salting a field or irrigating with salt water on crop yields, which is why the symbolism of salting a field "I have the power to destroy your land permanently, and you cannot stop me" was so effective in communicating the need to follow surrender terms.

16 posted on 03/21/2014 1:18:28 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Reviews won’t help. Everyone can smell the stultifying environmentalist revisionist history that is this movie. And what’s worse, the tracking is in.

Tracking is a type of polling that predicts box office success/failure by measuring audience awareness of a film and the intent to go see it. The tracking says no one is going to see “Noah.”

The trailer’s been out for months. The first tracking numbers were dismal. So they recut the trailer. They showcase the actors as themselves in the new trailers, doing interviews about how awesome the movie is. Um, their own movie.

I just saw the new trailer two weeks ago, and the untrammeled self-righteouness made the audience squirm and snicker. Emma Watson and Jennifer Connelly say I should go see it?! Well, why didn’t you say so?! All righty, then!

Oh, and the tracking hasn’t improved.

Even the director does a “talking head” in the new trailer, telling us how “important” this story is. Um, Darren — you’re not Spielberg. Nobody knows who you are. Or cares.

Big money down says “Noah” is DOA.


17 posted on 03/21/2014 1:21:39 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Guenevere

That’s gonna be a while for me. I won’t be paying for it. I’ll have to wait on Netflix.


18 posted on 03/21/2014 1:43:14 PM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Blue Ink

“Um, Darren — you’re not Spielberg”.

So you like Spielberg liberal take in every movie he’s ever made?


19 posted on 03/21/2014 1:52:39 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant" - John Henry Cardinal Newman)
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To: NKP_Vet

“So you like Spielberg liberal take in every movie he’s ever made?”

Nope. But everybody knows who Spielberg is, his oeuvre, and what he looks like. And they’ll go see a movie with his name on it. The same was true of Hitchcock. Ditto M. Night Shyamalan for a minute, but he debased his currency with too many bad movies, so the jury is out if his name will sell his next film.

My point is nobody except Hollywood insiders and movie geeks know who Darren Aronofsky is. He doesn’t sell a film, so why put him in the trailer? It’s desperation time.


20 posted on 03/21/2014 2:22:04 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Gaffer

do you get netflix for free?


21 posted on 03/21/2014 2:25:49 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Blue Ink

Did anyone know who Mark Burnet and Roma Downey were, other than TV actors or producers. Protestants ate their movie “Son of God” up. It’s made over a 50 million dollars, and all it was was a copy and paste of the TV mini-series. People like Joel Osteen and Rick Warren bought out whole theaters and gave the tickets away so people could go see it.


22 posted on 03/21/2014 2:26:05 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant" - John Henry Cardinal Newman)
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To: NKP_Vet

No, I don’t think anyone outside of Hollywood knows who Burnett is, and Downey’s fan base from her “Touched by an Angel” days is not big enough by itself to make a hit movie. But “Son of God” didn’t have to make a fortune at the box office because, as you say, it was a cut and paste job. Almost every ticket sold so far ($50 million) is profit.

“Noah” is a different story. The original budget was $130 million. Since then, there have been reshoots and re-editing, plus new publicity campaigns. It cost around $180 million to get “Noah” in the theaters. That means it needs to make $400 million at the box office to get into black ink.

The tracking (and the audiences I’ve been watching the trailers with) say that figure is out of reach. “Noah” will be a write-down like last year’s “Lone Ranger.”


23 posted on 03/21/2014 3:00:52 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: NKP_Vet

Roma Downey is a Roman Catholic, and the movie also seems to have been doing well with the audience she aimed it at, as well as with Protestant Christians.

“”Our friends at Saint Benedict Press/TAN will be releasing a coffee table book to coincide with the release of Roma Downey’s and Mark Burnett’s film Son of God which will be in theaters at the end of the month. The Son of God: The Life of Jesus Christ in Pictures seems aimed at a Catholic audience and includes a foreword by Roma Downey. “”


24 posted on 03/21/2014 4:14:23 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Cicero

Haven’t you got the wrong newspaper there.

I always thought the National Catholic REPORTER was the Fishwrap and not truly Catholic in its approach to reporting.


25 posted on 03/21/2014 5:34:03 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Turbo Pig

Especially with an environmental emphasis which I have heard in intertwined with the Bible story.


26 posted on 03/21/2014 5:36:20 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Evidently so.


27 posted on 03/21/2014 5:53:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ansel12

Roma Downey is a nominal Catholic at best. The vast majority of the producers of the movie were protestant and the movie was geared towards protestants. There was hardly a mention of the Holy Eucharist in the movie. Anything that is promoted by Joel Osteen, Rick Warren and Oprah Windfry is not looking for a Catholic audience.


28 posted on 03/21/2014 7:07:24 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant" - John Henry Cardinal Newman)
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To: NKP_Vet

Is Oprah Winfrey really part of it? There`s a women that makes my blood boil.


29 posted on 03/21/2014 7:09:17 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2016 OR BUST)
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To: NKP_Vet

I don’t think you are the one who decides who is Catholic or not.

According to the Knight’s of Columbus, she was “”Raised Catholic, the Irish actress was educated by religious sisters. Her brother is a priest.””

Continuing with the Knights of Columbus
“The prominence of the character of Mary in the film will resonate with Catholic audiences. In fact, Son of God has received notable endorsements from prominent Catholics.

“It’s a joy to watch this film bring alive the pages of the Gospel,” said Cardinal Donald W. Wuerl, archbishop of Washington, D.C.

To prepare viewers for the film’s release, the Archdiocese of Washington has created a series of seven online catechetical videos linked to scenes in the movie. The videos complement the Son of God Reflection and Discussion Guide, written by Msgr. J. Brian Bransfield, associate general secretary of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.”

“Likewise, Archbishop José Gomez of Los Angeles has said that the film is important “because it gives us the opportunity to realize God’s presence in our own lives, and that we are children of God. The film is extraordinary for my ministry.”

Burnett is particularly enthusiastic about the support from the Knights of Columbus, noting that many councils have pre-purchased theater tickets for parishes.”

“Downey is grateful that Catholic leaders can appreciate the vision behind the film. The project, she said, is “tied in with everything our new pope is speaking about — this new evangelization — and using all the new means we have to reach people with the message of Christ.”


30 posted on 03/21/2014 7:15:17 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Roma Downey is anything but a devout Catholic. She’s been married three times, never getting an annulment for any previous marriage. Her last marriage was held at her home in Hollywood and she was married by her co-star Della Reese.
Her and her protestant husband plugged this movie for protestants. Citing Wuerl is a laugh. He’s the most liberal bishop in the United States. Catholics had nothing to with producing the movie and Catholics were definitely not the targeted audience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGyd-XERnIU


31 posted on 03/21/2014 8:25:48 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant" - John Henry Cardinal Newman)
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To: ansel12

It appears that you have judged them all and are telling us your decision, is what I read, you must be something awesome to behold among those of the Catholic faith.
Cardinals, fellow Catholics, the Archdiocese of Washington, Archbishop José Gomez, even the Knights of Columbus are casually dismissed, swept aside.

“While evangelical Christians typically lead the charge in supporting faith-based movies, “Son of God” is a rare movie that has garnered the support of the Catholic Church, the film’s promoters said. Cardinal Donald Wuerl commissioned discussion guides and videos to be made for Catholic churches and schools, and Archbishop Thomas Wenski of Miami is doing a theater take-over for thousands of Catholics in Miami.”

“A TIMELESS GIFT.”
“Son of God is a timeless gift of cinema that calls upon people of every faith to stop and reflect on the eternal impact of Jesus Christ, and global impact of Christianity. With its rich production and timely release, Son of God is a wonderful ally in the New Evangelization. I encourage every Catholic to see this film, particularly on opening weekend.”
—Tom Peterson, Founder and President, Catholics Come Home, Inc.

“BRINGS THE BIBLE TO LIFE.”
“It brings to life the Bible in a visibly beautiful way. It is a wonderful tool for the new evangelization. I’d encourage you to go see the film, and also to take a friend with you.”
—Lisa Hendey, Author and Founder of Catholicmom.com

“EXPERIENCE JESUS IN A NEW WAY.”
“Unlike any film of the past decade, this Biblical epic brings Christ to life in dazzling ways. From the powerful acting, to the stunning visual effects, to the moving orchestral score of Hans Zimmer, you’ll experience the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus in new and illuminating ways.”
—Brandon Vogt, Fr. Robert Barron’s Word on Fire Ministries

“BROUGHT LIFE TO THE SCRIPTURES.”
“As a Catholic in viewing the movie I was touched by so many scenes that brought to life what I already experienced interiorly through the Scriptures. However, I was particularly touched by the portrayal of the last supper. For me as a Catholic, it was extremely important that this episode be portrayed in its fullness. I am grateful for all who have worked on this movie.”
—Richard C Hanifen, Bishop Emeritus of Colorado Springs

““SON OF GOD WILL SPEAK TO YOUR HEART AND NOURISH YOUR SOUL.”
“Whether you have known Christ for many years, or you are looking to meet him for the first time, ‘Son of God’ is a movie that will speak to your heart and nourish your soul. This is a film that does not simply tell you about Christ, but puts you in the midst of his life, allowing you to see firsthand his public ministry, his love for humanity, and the death he suffered that we might have life eternal.”
—Carl Anderson, Knights of Columbus”

“Inspiring account of Christ.”
“I was impressed with the inspiration, quality and accuracy of the production. It is my prayerful hope that people of all faith traditions will go see this film and discuss and reflect upon the inspiring account of the life, love and sacrifice of Christ. As Catholics approach Ash Wednesday and the Lenten season, prayerful reflection regarding the life and sacrifices of Christ is of central importance. Viewing this inspiring film is a wonderful way to center our reflection as we enter this contemplative and holy period.”
—Bishop Kevin Vann, Diocese of Orange County, California

“Fantastic.”
“Son of God is fantastic. I really encourage you to go to your local theater and see it because it really brings the person of Jesus Christ so alive. It makes his humanness comes out in such a beautiful way and also the fact that he is the Son of God and how that was revealed to the people of his day and is still being revealed to us today. This is a way to re-connect with the person of Jesus. I hope you come to the theater and bring someone with you. It will be a great treat for yourself and a great way to begin the Lenten season.”
—Bishop David Ricken, Diocese of Green Bay

“Gripping and challenging.”
“Son of God is gripping and challenging. Powerful and gentle.”
—Bishop William F. Murphy, Diocese of Rockville Centre
“Energizes our faith.”
“It is my sincerest hope that this movie reminds all who watch of the love that Jesus Christ has for all of us, energizes our faith and leads us all to a deeper relationship with the Lord and once again remind us He is the Son of God.”
—Archbishop Jerome E. Listecki, Diocese of Milwaukee

“Remarkable.”
“It is a remarkable film, and I can for see many ways in which it could be used for our works of evangelization in our own time. Many people, especially our young people, are drawn to the visual in their lives, and this film is a superb use of modern filmmaking to capture the imaginations and the hearts of all.”
—His Eminence, Cardinal Roger M. Mahoney, Archbishop Emeritus of Los Angeles
“Powerful and beautiful”

“In SON OF GOD, through a cinematic recreation of events, we get to witness the sacrifices Jesus endured for our sins. The scenes of the movie, particularly of Our Lord’s Passion, bear a striking resemblance to the Stations of the Cross, and can be used as a way to meditate and reflect on His self-giving loving sacrifice for us during this season of Lent.”
—Archbishop Joseph Kurtz, Archdiocese of Louisville, Kentucky

“ENGAGING AND COMPELLING.”
“The movie, Son of God, based on The Bible, the made-for-TV series, is an engaging and compelling presentation of the story of Jesus, the Son of God among us. It is a joy to watch this film bring alive the pages of the Gospel and help us see what those who lived at the time of Jesus experienced. Personally, I would recommend to individuals, but particularly to families this wonderful story of the Son of God in order to be inspired all over again with the story of God’s love for us.”
—Cardinal Wuerl, Archbishop of Washington, DC

“EXTRAORDINARY.”
“Each one of us is a son or daughter of God. It is a wonderful, awesome reality. The movie Son of God is a very important movie because it gives us the opportunity to realize God’s presence in our own lives, and that we are children of God. The film is extraordinary for my ministry.”
—Archbishop Jose Gomez, Archbishop of Los Angeles


32 posted on 03/21/2014 8:57:38 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Roma Downey is anything but a devout Catholic. She’s been married three times, never getting an annulment for any previous marriage. Her last marriage was held at her home in Hollywood and she was married by her co-star Della Reese.
Her and her protestant husband plugged this movie for protestants. Citing Wuerl is a laugh. He’s the most liberal bishop in the United States. Catholics had nothing to with producing the movie and Catholics were definitely not the targeted audience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGyd-XERnIU


33 posted on 03/21/2014 9:06:10 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant" - John Henry Cardinal Newman)
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To: NKP_Vet

LOL, very revealing.


34 posted on 03/21/2014 9:09:37 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Your favorite liberal protestants love the movie.

http://thelasthiker.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/the-son-of-god-movie-is-not-what-we-think-do-you-know-the-voice-of-your-master/


35 posted on 03/21/2014 9:22:09 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant" - John Henry Cardinal Newman)
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To: Cicero

You mean the National Catholic REPORTER. This is the National Catholic Register.


36 posted on 03/22/2014 6:31:55 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Redmen4ever

It is my understanding that Mesopotamian agriculture was able to support a large population until the Mongol invasions of the Middle Ages, when a canal system capable of flushing the fields was destroyed.


37 posted on 03/22/2014 9:33:19 AM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: NKP_Vet

I think it ironic that the film casts Peter as THE leader of the Church.


38 posted on 03/22/2014 9:44:18 AM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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