"It's a miracle!"
.... The Church decided not to rebury Pope John XXIII, instead putting him on display for pilgrims. More than 25,000 people visit St. Peter’s Basilica every day, and many faithful still believe the incorrupt state of his body is a miracle.
"It's a miracle!"
I don’t understand...
I assume The 12 Apostles have long turned to dust.
I am not aware of evidence to the contrary.
Certainly, if any were Saints, these were
This seems like a varient of Necromancy
King Saul got in trouble for this...
Sorry...but this is just weird. All of it.
This is about as elaborate as mummification in the days of ancient Egypt.
A long time ago, when I was in high school (Spain) we went on field trip to a monastery. We were told ahead of the trip that we would see the body of the founder of the monastery who had died sometime in the Middle Ages, and that the body was “miraculously preserved”. I don’t remember many details, other than I was very excited at the idea of seeing a body preserved for over 1000 years... It was a big disappointment, it looked just like the Egyptian mummies when they remove the bandages: small, dry, black. It was hard to recognize it as a real body, let alone one miraculously preserved...
So, Alex Murphy, what do you believe?
Since when?
Kewel...
The catholics are one wacky tribe.
The Vatican is cool; since it can do what ever is warranted- “by the blood of Jesus, and his mommy,” to justify every known act of lower human nature in the supposed chair priests of Peter. This improbable throne is unknown to God, Son and Holy Spirit. Hey, get holy, get right and stop lying to yourselves.
An idiot wrote this.
There is no "Catholic belief" of incorruptibility. It's a miracle that is sometimes observed in the bodies of people of great sanctity. (The Orthodox have observed the same miracle in some cases, BTW.)
Many very great saints were not incorrupt after death. St. Therese of Liseux even laughed at the idea when someone suggested to her during her life that her body might be incorrupt after death (it wasn't).
So incorruption is hardly a sine qua non of sanctity. If achieved by means that can be explained either by nature or chemistry, it's not a sign of sanctity, either.
At some point, idiocy like this in the press passes beyond the stage of sweetly innocent ignorance into an organized, deliberate effort to paint Catholics as dangerous freaks. It begins to remind one of some of the anti-Semitic nonsense that circulated around Europe around the turn of the last century.
Just another “lying wonder” of popery. Anyone who believes these ridiculous claims is under strong delusion.
“Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
—2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
Well, lookie there.
I think they got Jesus mixed up with Michael Jackson. :-P
I hope they put up plenty of signs reading
NO SMOKING OR OPEN FLAMES.
This is either a Breaking Bad episode or one creepy episode of Martha Stewart.
Meanwhile, Genesis is mythology because “stuff like that just doesn’t happen.”
I thought we were all made righteous, holy if you will, in God's eyes when we believe Christ died for our sins.
Rent Free.
Vatican officials indicated that the procedure involved the injection of a formaldehyde-based fluid, which falls short of a full embalming process.
Dr. Giovanni Arcudi, the head of forensic medicine at Rome's Tor Vergata University, confirmed that he had been summoned to the Vatican after the pope's death Saturday night to oversee the body's temporary preservation -- but said he had been sworn to secrecy about the details....
Dr. Gennaro Goglia, who was among those who prepared John XXIII's body for burial in 1963, was pleased upon the exhumation to see how well his work had held up.
So was the Vatican, which awarded him a medal.
Now in his 80s, Goglia recalled with reverence his abrupt summons to the papal apartment, where he worked late into the night, attended by prayerful clerics. He saved for posterity the scalpel he used. ------------------------------
THE INCORRUPTIBLES By Heather Pringle Discover Magazine, Vol. 22 No. 6, June 2001;http://www.nhne.com/misc/incorruptibles.html: Over the last 15 years, however, a new view of the Incorruptibles has begun to emerge. At the Vatican's request, Italian pathologists, chemists, and radiologists have been poring over the bodies of the ancient men and women interred in church reliquaries. Charged with gleaning new information about the lives of the saints and assisting in the conservation of sacred remains, they have also brought science to the altars of Europe's cathedrals. Already, they have examined more than two dozen saints and beati, shedding light on the mystery of their preservation. While some saints were clearly mummified by their devout followers, others were protected from decay by environmental conditions, raising new questions about incorruptibility. "What is a miracle?" asks Ezio Fulcheri, a pathologist at the University of Genoa and one of the leading researchers on the Incorruptibles. "It's something unexplainable, a special event that may occur in different ways." The causes may seem mysterious "but don't exclude [rare] natural processes that are different from the normal course of things."
The 20th-century Catholic Church had not hesitated in calling on science for help in preserving a future saint. That sparked Fulcheri to wonder whether it had made similar appeals in ages past...
Fulcheri came across his first clues when Nolli called on his help once again, this time with an official examination of an important 13th-century Tuscan saint, Margaret of Cortona. ...
As Fulcheri gently lifted the hem of her dress up over her legs, all those assembled began to murmur. Several long incisions streaked along her thighs; other, deeper cuts ran along her abdomen and chest. Clearly made after death, they had been sewn shut with a whipstitch in coarse black thread. Saint Margaret had been artificially mummified. -
It goes on and it quite interesting,.