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Homosexuality promoted through Catholic Charities [vanity]

Posted on 03/25/2014 7:32:08 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

Something I was reminded of when I heard about World Vision deciding to hire those in "gay marriages" is how Catholic Charities has long promoted homosexuality. I know this because when I was living as a lesbian 15 to 20 years ago, I went to Catholic Charities several times for counsleing, and I found that the counseling was purely secular. When I went with a "partner," our lifestyle was embraced by the counselor. When I went to a couple other counselors myself later on, I was beginning to have doubts about this life, but one counselor even tried to encourage me to accept homosexuality. She said she had many homosexual friends, and these gay friends affectionately called their straight friends "breeders," but beyond that difference all relationships are the same.

It's troubled me for a long time that the Catholic Church raises money for Catholic Charities, and it goes for psychological counseling, which only makes one conform to the ways of the world.


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1 posted on 03/25/2014 7:32:08 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On

A disturbing trend in such charities. Thank God you have been delivered from the lifestyle. Of course, according to liberals, you don’t exist.


2 posted on 03/25/2014 7:41:33 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Faith Presses On

Interesting. Especially seeing as how Catholic Charities folded up its tents rather than be complicit in the adoption of children by homosexuals.

As a confessed former homosexual it seems you would have a keen insight into the machinations of homosexuals to infiltrate organizations and pervert them to their own ends.

Furthermore I’m curious as to how you extrapolate your own personal experience to the entire organization and contrast it with another organization who made a public pronouncement of its policy.


3 posted on 03/25/2014 7:42:54 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Faith Presses On

They also back illegal immigration - aiding and abetting.


4 posted on 03/25/2014 7:53:10 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: JPX2011

Much of the reason there are Somalians in places like Maine & Minnesota is Catholic Charities flying them here rather than helping them there


5 posted on 03/25/2014 8:05:39 PM PDT by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: Faith Presses On

Catholic Charities is not Catholic.They said so when asked.


6 posted on 03/25/2014 8:13:03 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Insigne123

Sure it’s what they do. Whether it’s people from Eastern Europe, Vietnam, or Somalians today. It’s a work of mercy. Now you and I have a shared concern about the influx of muslims into the United States.

The question is who is designating these people as refugees?


7 posted on 03/25/2014 8:18:13 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: fatima

Illinois Catholic Charities gave away their adoption agency to a “Christian” organization that arranges homosexual adoptions.


8 posted on 03/25/2014 8:45:33 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: fatima

Someone said that about Cardinal Dolan.../s


9 posted on 03/25/2014 8:55:52 PM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: Faith Presses On

Was the counselor a Catholic priest? If not, this is a non-story. The person that worked at the charity was as a not a devout Catholic anymore than you were. Just wondering why you posted the story.


10 posted on 03/25/2014 8:57:33 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant" - John Henry Cardinal Newman)
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To: Faith Presses On; Religion Moderator

No source for this story. Is it a vanity?


11 posted on 03/25/2014 9:03:54 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Faith Presses On

Have an agenda much?
Try not to be so transparent.


12 posted on 03/25/2014 9:07:11 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: Faith Presses On
Catholic Charities,like Lutheran services, etc, receive govt money to carry out certain activities.....they have to do the govt's bidding in most respects...

that's what you get when getting grant money is more important than principles.

13 posted on 03/25/2014 9:11:53 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Faith Presses On

So are you Catholic Bashing here?


14 posted on 03/25/2014 9:14:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Apparently that’s what this post is — Catholic bashing of the worst kind.


15 posted on 03/25/2014 9:17:41 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Faith Presses On
Can you say this about all charities?


16 posted on 03/25/2014 9:18:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: fatima

I just did a search and went to many sites. Everything I found showed it to be under Catholic guidance. Some of the sites were by local churches. The sites stated help is given to people of all faiths. I do not know what their clothes are called since I am SB but pictures showed priests as leaders. That says Catholic to me.


17 posted on 03/25/2014 9:21:30 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Faith Presses On
That could be e case for her particular experience, but it Is not e case for our diocese. It will depend on the bishop. If the bishop is not orthodox, then the story such as this can arise. But I would bet that they are the exception and not the rule.

And I think it is very unfair to Catholic Charities as an organization to label the entire organization non-Catholic based on you personal, anecdotal story. By that analysis, we could argue that all the apostles were bad because Jesus picked one that would betray him.

The bottom line, is not to label the entire institution a failure just because you has a bad experience. I have had great experiences with them both with adoption and pro-life work. I am sorry your experience was otherwise.

Human institutions will always have their bad apples. But there are many wonderful Catholics and other non-Catholic Christians and even non-Christians who contribute to and benefit from Catholic Charities.

18 posted on 03/25/2014 9:28:01 PM PDT by CWW (Pray for God's Protection!)
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To: Salvation; Faith Presses On
So are you Catholic Bashing here?

It's "Catholic bashing" now to talk about a personal experience and the question it brought to your mind??? Mighty touchy aren't we?

Dear Faith Presses On, it is a shame that, not only did you reveal your own spiritual struggles and the questions it prompted you to ask about the kind of "service" you received from a so-called Catholic organization, but you also got accused by Free Republic's own FRoman Catholic Brigade of intentionally doing so just so you could "bash" them. I'm sorry you were treated that way by some who claim to be the BEST Christians that exist in the world. I don't think it is out of the ordinary to expect a religiously named organization to abide by the tenets that religion professes. It sounds like you were not served well and, instead, encouraged to continue in a sinful lifestyle that would NOT bring you closer to knowing God. You had every right to expect better.

19 posted on 03/25/2014 9:30:59 PM PDT by boatbums (Simul justis et peccator.)
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To: MamaB

Call them.They issued a statement a few years ago saying they are not Catholic.One of their heads was a homo escort outside an abortion chamber.Are you calling me a liar.


20 posted on 03/25/2014 9:33:23 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: boatbums; Faith Presses On

“As a man thinketh, so he is.”


21 posted on 03/25/2014 9:40:33 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: boatbums

Bump


22 posted on 03/25/2014 9:48:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: fatima

Got a source?


23 posted on 03/25/2014 9:54:55 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Faith Presses On

I was shocked and saddened to see an Orthodox Christian charity corrupted by making an honorary spokesman out of a major abortion advocate. Unbelievable.

Did they get enough angry mail that they learned their lesson, or was that just the start of the corruption?

Meanwhile, corporate america is now a major part of pushing leftist causes.


24 posted on 03/25/2014 9:57:22 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: JPX2011

Looking at their webpage, I’d have to guess that Fatima is right.


25 posted on 03/25/2014 10:02:18 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: fatima

Then explain why every site I went to says it is a Cathlic organization? Even the CatholicCharities.com site says so. Did they lie?


26 posted on 03/25/2014 10:06:21 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Faith Presses On

http://www.city-journal.org/html/10_1_how_catholic_charities.html


27 posted on 03/25/2014 10:11:23 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

I’m sorry I need some help here:

From their website:

4. Catholic Charities agencies are authorized to exercise their ministry by the diocesan bishop. Whether founded by a diocese, parish, religious congregation, or lay activists, Catholic charitable works and institutions have their formal Catholic identity in relationship to the Church and the diocesan bishop.

The bishop is charged in Church teaching and canon law with responsibility for the apostolate within diocesan confines. However organized in terms of canon and civil law, Catholic Charities have responsibilities to operate consistently with the teachings and values of the Church. While there is great organizational variety, the local diocesan bishop ordinarily is positioned within the civil law structure—even of a separately incorporated Charities—to allow him to exercise his canonical responsibilities for the apostolate.

That doesn’t jive with a renunciation of their Catholic identity. I can’t speak to the homo/abortion thing.


28 posted on 03/25/2014 10:12:41 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Faith Presses On

http://ncronline.org/news/politics/american-life-league-chastises-catholic-charities-usa-affiliation


29 posted on 03/25/2014 10:13:11 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Technical Editor

Do you think that maybe her intent was just to share something unexpected she experienced that mystified her? I could relay something that happened in my old church with a Baptist preacher, doesn’t mean I’m putting them all down.


30 posted on 03/25/2014 11:42:21 PM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: Salvation
“As a man thinketh, so he is.”

So, because you thinketh you are being bashed, you are?

31 posted on 03/25/2014 11:48:10 PM PDT by boatbums (Simul justis et peccator.)
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To: fatima
Are you calling me a liar. (?),

"Maybe you are, maybe you aren't. I don't know you."

32 posted on 03/26/2014 3:02:53 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Faith Presses On; Viennacon; JPX2011; TigerClaws; Insigne123; fatima; stars & stripes forever; ...
I find your story absolutely believable. Catholic Charities )in many places) and Catholic Relief Services are little more than government social service agencies.

(All the data below is self-reported data from Charity Navigator)

Note that Catholic Relief Services gets over 60% of their funding from government sources

Take a look at some of these local Catholic Charities' funding sources:

Catholic Charities Atlanta:

New Orleans:

East Bay (Oakland, etc):

Spokane:

And the winner (so far as I've seen), San Francisco:

Now, don't get me wrong, there are a few local diocesan Catholic Charities that do not take government funding. But they are the exception rather than the rule.

And keep in mind that many of the local Catholic Charities (to include DC, NYC, and Boston) don't even participate in Charity Navigator...so I shudder to think how much of their funding comes from the government.

The trouble is that when the government is so deeply embedded in the funding stream for these organizations, this is, of course, going to impact how they view the world. If you look at the political positions taken by CRS or Catholic Charities, they always oppose any kind of brakes being put on by Congress to bring spending under control. And, considering where they get their money, of course that would be the case.

The other thing with government funding is that a stipulation provided is that they have to provide services (including, in your case, counseling services) without regard to the religion of the person to whom they provide the service and with no religious content provided to that client. So, again, looking at your situation, rather than receiving the spiritual direction you needed, you got what was essentially secular psychological counseling.

This is not an apology for Catholic Charities. It is a condemnation. These agencies have made the foundational mistake of yoking themselves to unbelievers and being dragged down the road of perdition where they are being led by their secular sugar daddies.

There are a few examples where the Church has reigned in Catholic Charities. In Southern Illinois, faced with a rebellion on the part of the employees, the bishops cut them off. In Boston and DC (to the bishops' credit and my surprise), they stopped performing adoption work altogether. But those are the exception and only happened because Sugar Daddy (a/k/a the government) pushed a little too hard too fast.

I absolutely refuse to give one red cent to Catholic Charities USA, Catholic Relief Services, and my local diocesan Catholic Charities. The reason: they are little more than government social service agencies and, thank you very much, I already pay enough in taxes. My money will go to something else that is not so dependent. Like, for example, the Little Sisters of the Poor...who take NO government money for their important mission.

I would encourage my fellow Catholic FReepers to think hard before supporting these quasi-government agencies through second collections or mail-based fundraising drives.

33 posted on 03/26/2014 3:38:33 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: JPX2011; Faith Presses On; Black Agnes
This is human corruption: and you'll notice that corruption always happens when people are straying from the Faith and Morals of the Catholic Church.

This is as true of people ostensibly "in the Church" as of people "outside of the Church. Yes, there are people inside: wolves in sheep's clothing, and even worse, more damnable, wolves in Shepherds' clothing!

This nation of ours would be a far better, cleaner, more saneand more decent place if Cathoilics practiced their faith to the full. Everyone should pray for Catholics to be better Catholics.

As for these pro-homosexuality counselors, the whistle has to be blown on them. They need to be out of any position of influence unless and until they profess the teachings of Our Lord in their professional work.

34 posted on 03/26/2014 4:58:00 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Woe to those who call good evil, and evil good; call darkness light, and light, darkness.)
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To: boatbums

Methinks if someone has went to the Salvation Army and was treated the exact same way the story would not have posted. Another day, another Catholic-bashing on FR.


35 posted on 03/26/2014 6:25:52 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant" - John Henry Cardinal Newman)
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To: JPX2011

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/12/04/Pope-Benedict-Catholic-Charities-Must-Uphold-Church-Teachings
In what some Catholics are calling a “surprise move,” Pope Benedict XVI issued an apostolic letter directing Catholic charities that they must act in complete compliance with Catholic teachings.
Cardinal Robert Sarah, head of the Pontifical Council that oversees the Church’s charities, had earlier warned of a “silent apostasy” within Catholic charities when he informed Caritas:
Today, dear friends, the tragedy of modern mankind is not lacking clothing and housing. The most tragic hunger and the most terrible anguish is not lack of food. It’s much more about the absence of God and the lack of true love, the love that was revealed to us on the Cross.
http://www.massnews.com/2002_editions/03_Mar/22002pp.htm
The Director of Counseling Services at Catholic Charities in Dorchester, a facility that counsels pregnant women, volunteers his Saturdays escorting women into Planned Parenthood’s abortion clinic in Boston.

The counselor is Howard M. Brown, a Licensed Independent Clinical Social Worker, who has been assisting Planned Parenthood in the Boston area as a volunteer for the last ten years, and in other states before that.

Neither the Archdiocese of Boston nor Catholic Charities of Greater Boston expressed concern over Brown’s abortion activities when contacted by MassNews. But ordinary people in the street say the situation is unacceptable and Brown should be fired.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/676140/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/634870/posts?page=11
Shockingly, March admitted that Catholic Charities were fully aware of Brown’s activities, but she said, “Catholic Charities’ hiring policies are more like a company’s hiring policies than, say, of the Archdiocese. We’re the social service agency of the Archdiocese, but we don’t discriminate based on religion, race, sexual orientation, or any of those types of things. Because we take federal money and that sort of thing, we have to adhere to separate hiring and firing regulations.”


36 posted on 03/26/2014 6:35:32 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: boatbums; Faith Presses On; Salvation; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; caww; ...
Dear Faith Presses On, it is a shame that, not only did you reveal your own spiritual struggles and the questions it prompted you to ask about the kind of "service" you received from a so-called Catholic organization, but you also got accused by Free Republic's own FRoman Catholic Brigade of intentionally doing so just so you could "bash" them. I'm sorry you were treated that way by some who claim to be the BEST Christians that exist in the world.

It is absolutely appalling and reprehensible.

There is no wrong that the Catholic church can commit that some Catholics will not defend.

And then the Catholics beg people to come back and 8cross the Tiber*.

Unbelievable.

Those who can see clearly can see that there's a world of difference between what Catholic church *official* policy is and what is actually practiced in the real world at the grass roots level. The disconnect is tremendous and FRoman Catholics only end up trying to defend an ideal that does not exist.

In doing so, they show their unwillingness to admit the truth about the corruption and error in their church, which does not practice what it preaches.

Hypocrisy abounds within Catholicism.

It's too bad that Catholics don't spend more time trying to fix their own problems than attacking those who point them out as *haters* and *anti-Catholic bashers*.

If they cleaned house, there would be nothing left for others to point out their hypocrisy.

Praise God that you were delivered from that lifestyle and you have found God. He is good.

37 posted on 03/26/2014 7:09:27 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Salvation; MamaB; fatima
Can you say this about all charities?

Can you say this about all Christian charities?

Catholic Charities—and the same could be said about the Association of Jewish Family and Children's Agencies or the Lutheran Services in America—has become over the last three decades an arm of the welfare state, with 65 percent of its $2.3 billion annual budget now flowing from government sources and little that is explicitly religious, or even values-laden, about most of the services its 1,400 member agencies and 46,000 paid employees provide. - How Catholic Charities Lost Its Soul ; https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=7587

38 posted on 03/26/2014 8:09:25 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

daniel1212 Thanks for the link.


39 posted on 03/26/2014 8:37:33 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: markomalley
In Boston and DC (to the bishops' credit and my surprise), they stopped performing adoption work altogether. But those are the exception and only happened because Sugar Daddy (a/k/a the government) pushed a little too hard too fast.

In Massachusetts, they facilitated thirteen adoptions by homosexual couples before they were exposed. They ceased facilitating adoptions because compliance with Church teaching conflicts with state licensing requirements. Putting up a legal fight would have put a damper on corporate and private donations (the St. Paddy's Day parade sponsorship withdrawals serve as a recent example of the financial punishment that goes with the territory).

I absolutely refuse to give one red cent to Catholic Charities USA, Catholic Relief Services, and my local diocesan Catholic Charities. The reason: they are little more than government social service agencies and, thank you very much, I already pay enough in taxes. My money will go to something else that is not so dependent. Like, for example, the Little Sisters of the Poor...who take NO government money for their important mission.

I couldn't agree more. Support authentically Catholic ministries, those that serve the Church without compromising Her teachings.

40 posted on 03/26/2014 8:38:10 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: markomalley

“I would encourage my fellow Catholic FReepers to think hard before supporting these quasi-government agencies through second collections or mail-based fundraising drives. “
Amen,Throw the envelope out.We do a little non-profit homeless interfaith group and a few small Catholic groups that are local.


41 posted on 03/26/2014 8:41:43 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: markomalley
Thanks for the information. Wow, amazing what happens when an organization takes secular government dollars. They become like them!

Then on another thread we have a Protestant/Evangelical relief agency voluntarily hiring same sex “couples” because some of their supporters (read donors) don't “condemn” such practices (read sin). So the spirit of anti-christ abounds everywhere and knows no church or denominational boundaries.

The only “good news” story from that piece was the overwhelming rebukes from prominent Protestant and Evangelical pastors and theologians.

42 posted on 03/26/2014 8:48:53 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: Faith Presses On

This is really no surprise. There are many Catholics like Nancy Pelosi and her ilk, that undermine real Catholic teaching. Happens all the time.


43 posted on 03/26/2014 8:48:54 AM PDT by tioga
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To: BlatherNaut

Thanks BlatherNaut,I didn’t know that about the adoptions.


44 posted on 03/26/2014 8:54:56 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Faith Presses On

I never heard of Catholic Charities doing counseling. You should have gone to a Church if you needed counseling about your lesbianism. In any case, I would hope that any Catholic would embrace you and try to help you with whatever struggles you are having, with sexuality or otherwise.

A real Catholic priest would help you but not encourage the behavior associated with your sexual attraction (unless, perhaps, it was a temporary measure to talk you off the ledge, as it were)


45 posted on 03/26/2014 9:20:53 AM PDT by MikeyB806
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To: Faith Presses On
I'd be interested in your route OUT of the lifestyle; but let me be content, for now, with showing folks what the BIBLE has to say about it:

Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 
 
 
 
 
 


The Health Risks of gay sex.


46 posted on 03/26/2014 10:30:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Technical Editor
Apparently that’s what this post is — Catholic bashing of the worst kind.

Then let me be the one to bash in a gentler manner...



Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

47 posted on 03/26/2014 10:33:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CWW
Human institutions will always have their bad apples.

Evidently.

But it makes me wonder... Who votes these bad apples into power?

48 posted on 03/26/2014 10:34:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NKP_Vet
Methinks if someone has went to the Salvation Army and was treated the exact same way the story would not have posted. Another day, another Catholic-bashing on FR.

Meknows that making up strawmen are some peoples favorite pastime.

Another thread; another excusing of Catholic bad behavior.

49 posted on 03/26/2014 10:37:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

So the resident Catholic basher weighs in. Where’s your partner in bashing? No names necessary.


50 posted on 03/26/2014 10:43:56 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant" - John Henry Cardinal Newman)
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