Skip to comments.The Church of England will mount no more resistance to gay marriage among churchgoers
Posted on 03/29/2014 3:05:22 AM PDT by markomalley
The Archbishop of Canterbury has signalled that the Church of England will mount no more resistance to gay marriage among churchgoers.
Gay marriage will be legalised from Saturday with dozens of ceremonies planned around the country for one minute past midnight. This passing of the legislation caused deep rifts within the church.
I think the church has reacted by fully accepting that its the law, and should react on Saturday by continuing to demonstrate in word and action, the love of Christ for every human being. Justin Welby told the Guardian.
His comments mark a shift in tone, if not substance, from a letter from the bishops last month that attempted to forbid the clergy from marrying same-sex partners, and which led to a furious backlash from supporters. At least seven clergy couples are preparing to marry in defiance of their bishops, though none are known to be planning a public ceremony.
Comment: The capitulation of the Church of England to the onward march of homosexualism marks the point at which it can no longer maintain a claim to be any part of the Church of Jesus Christ. It discloses a new reason if there were none already why the Church of England is a heresy, which, from now on, no one can continue to belong to and, at the same time, call himself a faithful Christian.
Yet there is no point in anyone leaving the Church of England unless he were convinced that Jesus Christ, in founding His Church, gave her the gift of infallibility in teaching and believing the truth. Once he forms that judgement, he has to make up his mind whether Christs Church is the Roman Catholic or the Eastern Orthodox.
M Donnelly: Thank you Michael
What part of abomination is so misunderstood ?
Oh .... rejected ... I see.
How can the love of Jesus Christ for every human being be demonstrated when the church shows that He died for nothing and embrace the actions of those who choose to walk apart from His salvation.
Haha...they said “mount”.
A pathetic shell of its former self.
The Anglican Church left Christianity long ago. This is just more proof.
The last church standing in opposition to evil, is the real church. Too bad, so many hearts are hardened and given up to reprobate mind that they cannot and will no see the truth before it is too late for them.
Have you listened to The Vision by the late David Wilkerson? The Lord showed him a vision in the early 70s. He addressed a college group and told them it was for their generation. That was my generation. EVERYTHING he prophesized has or is coming to pass.
DAVID WILKERSONS THE VISION PART 1
DAVID WILKERSONS THE VISION PART 2
DAVID WILKERSONS THE VISION PART 3
DAVID WILKERSONS THE VISION PART 4
The Church of Non Christian Queers - formerly known as Church of England.
Because some people in government are now hostile to marriage as God defined it, in order to protect godly marriage we must remove the power of the State to define and regulate marriage. Then anyone will be perfectly free to enter into whatever relationship they want. However, they will not be able to call upon the police power of the state to force me to recognize a “marriage” that I know is theologically illegitimate and morally repugnant.
If we remove government from marriage and return it to the private sphere where it came from, lesbians can still marry each other, but they won’t be able to use government to force me to sell them wedding cake or artfully photograph their “marriage”. They will be free to do as they please without being able to coerce anyone else about their private affair.
But this was never really about marriage. For homosexuals it was social engineering and payback. They could bust marriage as God defined it, they could rub Christianity’s nose in it, they could punish people who objected and they could force anyone who was too vocal to shut up. But what they really want is approval, and it just galls them that a lot of people will never give it to them.
As for the Church of England, this is just another mile down the same road away from what God says to what society wants.
Maybe I am misunderstanding him here, but is he suggesting that both choices are equal? That both choices represent choosing Christ's True Church?
On the flip side, Jesus died for them too. He also hung out with those who needed the most help because they were among the most abominable. He is the Judge and we are not. We shouldn't have these folks in any leadership positions, but they should be welcome in the Church in the hopes of allowing them to develop their relationship with Christ that they too can enjoy salvation.
He was sure spot on— an epedemic of homosexuality, churches joining together with secular organizations, porn getting into homes electronically, a recession with no end, environmentalists worried the world is worrying the world is warming up so they ruin the economy, and drug use getting spread to teens everywhere! This guy totally knew human nature!
“I think the church has reacted by fully accepting that its the law...”
The law specifically bars the CoE from participating in ‘gay marriages,’ at least to my understanding. Everyone else can do them or not. Or at least that was my understanding when the law was passed.
I thought he might have been saying whichever one does not capitulate would be the true church.....does the UK have many Eastern Orthodox churches? I don’t think they have all that many Roman Catholic churches.
Not saying that is your stand, but your words sound that way.
An accepted by the church, married queer ... is still a practicing, unrepentant queer and he/she/it is an abomination.
,,, whilst they collectively busy themselves mounting other things.
We could look at this in a positive light and ask how many more will swim the Tiber.
Lambeth to C of E: Close your eyes and think of England.
But he doesn’t say that. It looks like he’s saying that a person has two choices.
Hey dude, did he say “mount”?
Everyone needs to repent and try to change. It's just not our job to make them do it. All we can do is carry the Word and witness to the best of our abilities. How many Christians have actually changed their inner self? We try to do better, but most of us still have most of our original faults and have to go back and repent again and again. We shouldn't foster their lifestyle but we also shouldn't condemn them for it.
I think we get so hung up on the fact that God called the sodomites an abomination that we forget that the wages of ALL sin is death. But for the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross, we would all be as condemned as the sodomites.
You do not allow Molech in with HIS rules and laws just because you 'love' him.
The C of E ceased being a church of Jesus Christ decades ago.
I never said we should allow Molech and HIS laws to prevail. What are the family rules and laws? Jesus gave us the two Great Commandments, by which the Law is fulfilled. How do you reach those that need saving if you keep them out of the presence of those who claim Christ as Savior. We (mortal humans) don't make the rules and laws - we try, mostly unsuccessfully, to follow them while carrying the message of the Good News.
I've heard members of churches claim that, since they've been saved, they no longer do anything sinful - I think they are deluding themselves and losing out because of it. If you believe you don't commit sins, the wages of which under the Old Covenant are death, on a daily basis, you are deluding yourself - only one Man ever walked the Earth with the ability to go through a sin-free day. The rest of us are redeemed and saved by His Blood and nothing else. In Jeremiah, God told us of the New Covenant to come and He stated that He would forgive us our wickedness and recognize our sins no more. He didn't say we would be forgiven and stop committing sinful acts. Is it our job to judge and condemn others?
It seems that many religious folks seem to think they are somehow elite, much as the Pharisees considered themselves to be and we know how Jesus felt about them.Where do you draw the line and by what authority? Paul understood that to reach sectors of societies, he had to become much like them and, in that guise/costume he could relate to them and they to him. Jonah tried to flee Nineveh because he considered them to be beyond redemption and refused to witness to them because he didn't want them to be saved - God had other plans. How do we ensure we aren't being our own Jonahs?
Please take this in the way it is intended - to foster serious thought/conversation/debate that might help enlighten both of us, and not as any sort of attack at the personal or religious level.
The Church of England was never a church of Jesus Christ.
Then, I guess all of its past adherents are hell bound?
The article is based on accepting queers' marriages and doesn't really address the fact that queers are an abomination to God
I never said Molech's laws should prevail, I said they should not come in.
If you would feel comfortable with two guys in front of you, leaning their heads together as your priest or pastor ministers on a Sunday morning, trying to keep your kids from laughing ... you have no problem with a newly paroled child rapist babysitting your 10 year old daughter.
I'm not very good at discussing what God has already determined
If they are not invincibly ignorant of the fact that salvation comes from Christ through his only Church, the Catholic Church, then they are definitely skating on thin ice.
The Roman church is a cult. There is no salvation through it.
I guess you’re not invincibly ignorant.
**The Church of England will mount no more resistance to gay marriage among churchgoers**
Then the churchgoers will have to mount the resistance and leave the Church of England.
It all comes from being the “established” church.
Separation of church and state isn’t just to protect the state.
- what has the U.K. authorized for homosexuals: marriage or civil partnership?
- will the Church of England officiate homosexual marriages, or only certain priests who wish to defy their bishops?
- what does "mount no more resistance to marriage among churchgoers" by the CofE mean, accepting congregants "married" elsewhere, or officiating themselves?
Everyone is spinning so hard that it is hard to divine what they are saying.
Without any guidance from those better informed, that is my take.
decades ? Why not centuries ? It became the Church of England as a result of the lust of King Henry VIII. The rest is natural decline.
I agree, stories like this usually seem to be less than clear. I think the UK ‘gay marriage’ law itself prohibits the CoE from conducting them. Everyone else can do them or not.
No, I’m not.