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San Francisco Archbishop: Those Dissenting from Church Teachings Shouldn’t Receive Communion
LifeSite News ^ | 3/31/14 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 04/01/2014 6:13:09 AM PDT by marshmallow

SAN FRANCISCO, CA, March 31, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Speaking with LifeSiteNews about the matter of worthiness to receive Holy Communion last week, Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone said that Church teaching on the matter “has been very clear and consistent from literally the very beginning."

The Church's teaching goes "all the way back to St. Paul who writes in 1 Corinthians that anyone who does not receive the Eucharist worthily, that is if they are in a state of sin, blasphemes the body and blood of the Lord," the archbishop explained.

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1 posted on 04/01/2014 6:13:09 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Those that dissent from teachings don’t usually ask for communion anyway. Because they don’t go to church.


2 posted on 04/01/2014 6:14:44 AM PDT by albie
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So, what’s the archbishop going to do about it?


3 posted on 04/01/2014 6:18:29 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: albie

Those that dissent from teachings don’t usually ask for communion anyway. Because they don’t go to church.


Maybe your right, but then again, there’s probably many who were raised with Gods truth and there hearts are not completely hardened. They know they are wrong, but maybe feel they can’t control themselves like the world tells them. They need help and seeing they will be disconnected from God may make them stop and think about what they are doing. Maybe get help.


4 posted on 04/01/2014 6:19:39 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: sitetest

Let’s give the archbishop credit for even SAYING this. It’s a start.


5 posted on 04/01/2014 6:21:53 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: albie
Those that dissent from teachings don’t usually ask for communion anyway. Because they don’t go to church.

I think this is directed towards politicians like Nancy Pelosi, who make a big public deal of being Catholic, while at the same time never missing a chance to defecate on Church teachings.


6 posted on 04/01/2014 6:22:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: albie

Nancy Pelosi goes and receives. She even received in Rome. There are tons more like her in Congress and elsewhere. It causes confusion and distorts the teachings of the Church. I wish she would be excommunicated, or at least publically banned by every bishop in our country.


7 posted on 04/01/2014 6:24:38 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: marshmallow

then a whole lot of people in frisco will be going without


8 posted on 04/01/2014 6:25:05 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: marshmallow

The cool thing about Christian churches is that if you disagree with the teachings of one sect, you can stop going to their meetings and attend somewhere else, or start your own.


9 posted on 04/01/2014 6:25:23 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: albie

Those that dissent from teachings don’t usually ask for communion anyway. Because they don’t go to church.


I think there is a lot of truth to that statement. Also, my wife and I take communion at home after meals, as was done in the upper room.

One of the amazing things about Christianity is that its foundational teaching can be taught through something as simple as the symbol of communion. It’s pretty hard to screw it up.


10 posted on 04/01/2014 6:27:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: albie
Dear albie,

Would that that were true.

There are many prominent Catholic politicians who attend Mass and receive the Blessed Sacrament who embrace doctrines and teachings far from the Church's.

Many Catholic politicians openly and publicly dissent on the Church's teachings on abortion, other sanctity of life issues, the homosexual agenda, etc., who ostentatiously proclaim their Catholicity, and who insist on receiving the sacrament.

In the archbishop's own archdiocese is the example of Nazi Pelosi, the venomous baby-hating pro-abort moral horror who has stated that abortion is sacred ground, who nonetheless claims to be a Mass-going, faithful Catholic.

Apart from prominent folks like Pelosi or Biden, many ordinary Catholics who are at Mass in the pews, week in and week out, disregard the Church's teachings on a range of issues, including artificial contraception, abortion, homosexuality, etc.


sitetest

11 posted on 04/01/2014 6:27:55 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: utahagen
Dear utahagen,

Nope. Sorry. No credit at all.

The fact is, most bishops have been mouthing these lines for a couple of decades, now. Nearly none have done the hard thing and ban from receiving those who give public scandal by publicly embracing baby-killing.


sitetest

12 posted on 04/01/2014 6:30:52 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: marshmallow

God has given us free will to sin. The bishop has done his job. If the “faithful” wish to receive the Eucharist despite this affirmation of his, they do so in direct disobedience and further condemn themselves.

He doesn’t have to be the cop and stop the person, but to counsel the person and the choice to free will mortally sin is always theirs. While he doesn’t want Christ desecrated, he also has to allow us free will to love - or offend - God.

It is a tricky line between knowing a sinner ought not receive and being ignorant of whether a sinner can receive. He cannot see in their hearts - it is a matter of the own person’s free will to love or offend God.

He’s just reminding folks - when you’re on your knees and then walking up....you can turn around or receive - God’s mercy extends there to the venial sinners, but not this day for the mortal sinner - seek confession first - change your heart. There’s always that “lump” in the throat moment where you again examine “I am a sinner, and He allows me via His Mercy, but have I gravely offended Him?” That’s what the bishop is counting on.


13 posted on 04/01/2014 6:42:46 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Linda Frances

.....Maybe even do REPENTENCE.


14 posted on 04/01/2014 6:47:09 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It

Even if it is to confess to God first, then to a priest.


15 posted on 04/01/2014 6:49:26 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: albie

They come on Baptisms, First Communions, Easter and Christmas. Many go every Sunday who don’t accept Church teaching, some are priests and nuns.


16 posted on 04/01/2014 7:01:43 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Phillyred

....But you have to have HOPE that the seeds of renewed faith are being planted.


17 posted on 04/01/2014 7:05:55 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: marshmallow

BTTT


18 posted on 04/01/2014 7:06:03 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: albie

A lot of politicians go to church as a show for the unwashed.Even the low info types would notice Pelosi being turned away from communion.


19 posted on 04/01/2014 7:25:18 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Joe Boucher

That’s the goal in my opinion.


20 posted on 04/01/2014 7:49:06 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: cuban leaf

What you say is true, leaf, but they will always be Catholic, because the marks of their Baptisms and Confirmations do no disappear from their souls. They will have to answer for their actions.


21 posted on 04/01/2014 7:50:32 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

My wife is ex-Catholic. But she is a Christian so the teachings of Catholicism that are unique to that organization really mean absolutely nothing to her or her salvation. It’s not her church.


22 posted on 04/01/2014 7:52:17 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: marshmallow
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The leader of San Francisco’s 444,000 Catholics noted that those who would dissent “from a defined Church teaching” and those who would violate the moral teaching of the Church in a serious way, “are not properly disposed to receive Holy Communion.”

“As St. Paul teaches, if they dare to approach knowing that they are in such a state of sin, they bring condemnation upon themselves,” he said. “This is not a harsh judgment of the Church, but our understanding of the Eucharist is that it is not simply a way of welcoming people, a way of affirming people.”

He concluded by noting that the sacrament of penance is there for all Catholics who find themselves in such situations so they can “confess their sins and receive sacramental absolution to be restored to a state of grace so they can worthily receive Holy Communion.”

 

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23 posted on 04/01/2014 7:52:40 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow

I met and talked for about 30 minutes to this Archbishop waiting for a plane to London. What a handsome, holy man who KNOWS he has his work cut out for him in SF!! PRAY FOR HIM!!


24 posted on 04/01/2014 8:17:32 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: sitetest
So, what’s the archbishop going to do about it?

Indeed. They've been talking the talk for years.

25 posted on 04/01/2014 8:23:56 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Biggirl

.....Maybe even do REPENTENCE.


Amen to that! God can open eyes and change hearts. Look at Saul before he was Paul.


26 posted on 04/01/2014 8:24:59 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Salvation

They will have to answer for their actions?

Really, says who? Dispensing guilt is a hallmark of Catholicism. So happy to have left that religious sect.


27 posted on 04/01/2014 9:25:51 AM PDT by Boanarges
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To: Boanarges

Your sins are your responsibility.

Christ died for them. Why don’t you believe you are responsible for your own sins?

OSAS is a false doctrine.


28 posted on 04/01/2014 9:27:39 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Boanarges

You need to read some of the NDE stories. They tell about going to heaven, seeing their entire life flas in front of them and then being sent back because it was not their time to die.

You WILL see your sin of denial at the moment of your death according to them.

I recommend a book by Dr. Jeffrey Long, Evidence of the Afterlife: The Science of Near Death Experiences.

In it he tells the medical side of each situation and then the person’s viewpoint as they die momentarily. A good read for any scientist.


29 posted on 04/01/2014 9:33:01 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: cuban leaf

She will come back to the church.


30 posted on 04/01/2014 9:34:46 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
She will come back to the church.

I disagree, and I have one of these:


31 posted on 04/01/2014 9:42:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: All
Speaking with LifeSiteNews about the matter of worthiness to receive Holy Communion last week, Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone said that Church teaching on the matter “has been very clear and consistent from literally the very beginning." The Church's teaching goes "all the way back to St. Paul who writes in 1 Corinthians that anyone who does not receive the Eucharist worthily, that is if they are in a state of sin, blasphemes the body and blood of the Lord," the archbishop explained.


"Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence" receiving Communion from San Francisco Archbishop George Niederauer
Holy Redeemer Parish, October 7, 2007

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32 posted on 04/01/2014 10:01:50 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

FYI, Niederauer is no longer the Bishop there.


33 posted on 04/01/2014 10:04:58 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: All
FYI, Niederauer is no longer the Bishop there.

That Niederauer was ever an archbishop, and that he continued to be one even one day more, let alone five years more until reaching voluntary/mandatory retirement age, puts the lie to the current archbishop's statement that "Church teaching on the matter “has been very clear and consistent from literally the very beginning."

34 posted on 04/01/2014 10:12:18 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Salvation

Probably not a good idea to read NDE stories and draw spiritual conclusions - it’s a dangerous path to go down. Prolly not a good idea either to look to Dr. Jeffrey’s book for “Evidence of the Afterlife.” God’s Word, the Holy Bible, is the one and final word on the afterlife for the believer.


35 posted on 04/01/2014 10:54:13 AM PDT by Boanarges
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To: Boanarges

What do you think about the upcoming movie based on a true story and remember now, the father is a Christian minister and this is a Christian family we are talking about and one little child’s journey to Heaven called which will come out this month, just in time for Easter called “Heaven Is For Real” ? Even the children’s book does confirms by this one child’s experience what the Bible teaches about Heaven. Got to remember Jesus’s position about little children.


36 posted on 04/01/2014 12:12:04 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Boanarges

Besides, that book that I mentioned is the best one IMHO about NDE’s.


37 posted on 04/01/2014 12:13:26 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Alex Murphy

There is a much more conservative bishop.


38 posted on 04/01/2014 12:14:25 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

I think it will be a good movie. Let’s hope it is Christ-centered and the sweet name of JESUS is mentioned often, because we all know “Heaven Is For Real” for only those who know The Way, The Truth, and The Life.


39 posted on 04/01/2014 12:39:52 PM PDT by Boanarges
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To: Biggirl

I was confused for a second, about you mentioning a book about NDE’s because only “SALVATION” mentioned a book. I see now that the same person goes by two different handles on Free Republic - SALVATION & BIGGIRL. Got it.


40 posted on 04/01/2014 12:45:59 PM PDT by Boanarges
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To: Boanarges

Your loss


41 posted on 04/01/2014 3:43:56 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Boanarges; Salvation

When speaking about another Freeper, be sure to ping him/her.


42 posted on 04/01/2014 6:55:59 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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