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Nearly 1,000 attend Charlotte Catholic meeting on nunís speech
charlotte observer ^ | Tim Funk

Posted on 04/03/2014 8:37:12 AM PDT by Morgana

Nearly 1,000 parents gathered at Charlotte Catholic High School on Wednesday night to air complaints about a recent speech to students by a nun who made what many considered inflammatory comments about gays and lesbians, divorce and single parenthood.

So many parents lined up to speak that the meeting with high school officials, the school’s chaplain and the Diocese of Charlotte’s vicar of education lasted more than an hour longer than scheduled.

Though the gathering was closed to the media, texts and tweets from parents inside the school gym cast the meeting as often heated, with emotions running high on both sides.

Diocese spokesman David Hains acknowledged after the meeting that the Rev. Matthew Kauth, the school’s chaplain, apologized to the parents for a March 21 speech by Sister Jane Dominic Laurel that was not the one he expected her to give.

Hains also said the high school committed to developing new policies that would better scrutinize visiting speakers in the future. He said the school also wants to do a better job of communicating with parents ahead of time when such speeches will deal with sensitive subjects such as sexuality.

“Parents should have been better informed,” Hains said.

During her speech, Laurel quoted studies that said gays and lesbians are not born with same-sex attractions, and that children in single-parent homes have a greater chance of becoming homosexual, Hains and others said.

Susan Traynor of Matthews, whose son is a sophomore, said he is usually pretty quiet when she picks him up from Charlotte Catholic High.

But on the day Laurel spoke to the assembly, she said, he spoke right up when he got in the car.

(Excerpt) Read more at charlotteobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Moral Issues
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A nun speaks the truth on Catholic teaching and the whole school looses their minds?
1 posted on 04/03/2014 8:37:12 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: milford421; Chode; NYer; Salvation; GeronL

First of all milford421 thanks for the heads up on this one...

“There are students in this school who are openly gay and some who are not out yet. Obviously, they felt bullied.””

Openly gay and at a Catholic school? Seriously? This is a Catholic school. Do this at publik Skool if you choose. Someone please make Sister Jane the new principal of this school they need good leadership.


2 posted on 04/03/2014 8:42:26 AM PDT by Morgana (Wagglebee please come home we miss you!)
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To: Morgana

They send their kids to Catholic school, then get upset when a nun gives a speech citing Catholic orthodoxy.

Stupid parents. God save the sane.


3 posted on 04/03/2014 8:43:50 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Morgana
When I saw the headline I just assumed the majority of the 1000 attendees showed up to give their 'attaboys' (or 'atta-nun') regarding the nun who choose the speak the truth rather than spew politically correct lies.
From scanning the posted part of the article, it sounds like Charlotte is populated by a bunch of zombies who reject God and common sense and instead seek to ingratiate themselves with the mores of Hollywood and the Media.
4 posted on 04/03/2014 8:44:28 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Morgana

If parents of students at a Catholic school have a problem with Catholic teaching on divorce, gay marriage and shacking up, then they need to take their students out of the schools.

As a side issue, what this points out is that the the Catholic school system’s promotional effort to get as many kids into Catholic schools as possible as a revenue base is coming back to bite them in the arse. Unless you make crystal clear that the school is Catholic and will teach Catholic doctrine, the schools are going to get this type of protest from more secular parents who just wanted their kids in the school to get a better education.


5 posted on 04/03/2014 8:44:54 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

We are involved in our local Lutheran school. There are a number of parents who object to standard teaching, and have demanded the school stop teaching religion in order to be inclusive.

So far, they have held the line. But it is only a matter of time I’m afraid. The lure of lucre is often stronger than the Word of God.


6 posted on 04/03/2014 8:48:45 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Morgana
Rev. Matthew Kauth, the school’s chaplain, apologized to the parents for a March 21 speech by Sister Jane Dominic Laurel

Add this to the list of mistakes. He needed to support the good sister, not throw here under the bus.

7 posted on 04/03/2014 8:48:49 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Morgana

I had my eyes opened when I spoke with some of the mothers of my daughter’s friends when she was in high school 7 years ago at an all-girl Catholic HS and not a single one was opposed to abortion. I was pretty shocked.


8 posted on 04/03/2014 8:49:13 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: Morgana

I think this is an indication that the school was never clear in the beginning about such views. I feel for this poor nun and hope she isn’t tossed under the bus by the Nancy Pelosi type Catholics.

This isn’t only a Catholic problem. To many churches and religious schools are mute or close to silence when it comes to social issues because they want to maintain the numbers or people attending.


9 posted on 04/03/2014 8:50:00 AM PDT by dragonblustar ( Psalm 103, Psalm 37:7, Ephesians 6:12)
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To: Morgana

This gets me too.

A Catholic high school invites a nun to speak. The nun espouses traditional values of the Catholic church on issues, including hot button issues involving sexuality.

A nun speaking at a Catholic high school espousing the church doctrine is somehow controversial???

We really do live in a politically correct world don’t we??

How Catholic are these parents, if they decide they need to have a protest meeting on the subject of a nun speaking to issues of their shared faith???


10 posted on 04/03/2014 8:50:32 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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To: Morgana

Looks like only half the school lost their minds.


11 posted on 04/03/2014 8:51:52 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Morgana

If this was SOP for the Left they probably bussed in a lot of these so-called “parents”


12 posted on 04/03/2014 8:52:12 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Morgana

These are nancy pelosi’s kind of catholics... God’s truth is offensive to them...

This is one nun who does need a ‘bus’ to go around in and speak some truth to this flock..

Doubt she is a lobbying type wth poliical $$$ behind her like those other nuns with their secular humanist bus that were heroes to some...


13 posted on 04/03/2014 8:53:30 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: onedoug

Take the kids out and put them in public school.


14 posted on 04/03/2014 8:56:47 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Morgana

“Before being ordered off the high school property, some Charlotte Catholic High School alumni and parents of former students passed out wristbands critical of the nun’s remarks on gays and lesbians. The wristbands read “We are all God’s children.”

And here is what the Apostle John wrote:

“He came into his own creation, and his own people would not accept him. Yet wherever men did accept him he gave them the power to BECOME sons of God. These were the men who truly believed in him, and their birth depended not on the course of nature nor on any impulse or plan of man, but on God.”

We are not “all God’s children”. On the contrary:

“To you, who were spiritually dead all the time that you drifted along on the stream of this world’s ideas of living, and obeyed its unseen ruler (who is still operating in those who do not respond to the truth of God), to you Christ has given life! We all lived like that in the past, and followed the impulses and imaginations of our evil nature, being in fact under the wrath of God by nature, like everyone else.”

It is a shame to see a Catholic school reject orthodox teaching. The proper response to the complaints should have been:

“I tell you not to associate with any professing Christian who is known to be an impure man or a swindler, an idolater, a man with a foul tongue, a drunkard or a thief. My instruction is: “Don’t even eat with such a man.” Those outside the church it is not my business to judge, but surely it is your business to judge those who are inside the church—God alone can judge those who are outside. It is your plain duty to ‘put away from yourselves that wicked person’.”


15 posted on 04/03/2014 8:57:02 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: Morgana

Sister Jane Dominic Laurel told the truth.

Why can’t people handle that?


16 posted on 04/03/2014 8:58:16 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Morgana

There are ways to present Catholic teaching on the family, and there are ways. My parents were among the first of the 1960s divorce wave.

When I went to pre-Cana counselling with my husband to be, the priest said that children of divorce were a very bad bet - did not offer guidance for the children of divorce to examine the damage done to them and watch out for the pitfalls, just said we were bad news. And yet I was determined because of my parents’ divorce NEVER to divorce, and married a Catholic man and joined the Church in large part because of its teachings on divorce. (Almost 32 years married now.)

The lay defenders of the family when I was growing up were far more hurtful than that priest was.


17 posted on 04/03/2014 9:02:27 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Morgana

If the school has any integrity at all, they’ll expel every student who has an objection.


18 posted on 04/03/2014 9:05:35 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Morgana
A nun speaks the truth on Catholic teaching and the whole school looses their minds?

The words of Jesus being spoken to children in a Catholic school?

I'm outraged. /s

19 posted on 04/03/2014 9:08:19 AM PDT by oldbrowser (Is Obama being blackmailed?)
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To: Salvation
"Sister Jane Dominic Laurel told the truth."

I saw a story about this nun on another site a week or two ago, and - if she was properly quoted - I'm not sure all of her claims about gays are accurate. I don't know if there is any foundation for her linking of divorce and masturbation with homosexuality, since the former is very common and the latter is almost universal among adolescents.

But even if she did not make dubious claims, the very fact that she opposed homosexuality would have caused controversy. Here in Seattle, gays are more welcome in Catholic churches than are traditional Catholics, many of whom have gone over to a conservative Eastern rite parish, or even to the schismatic ultra-traditional groups.
20 posted on 04/03/2014 9:10:15 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Morgana
"“You asked us to trust you. You betrayed our trust,” one parent told the gathering, according to a text to the Observer."

So the were trusting the school to wink and not rather than clearly stating Catholic Doctrine?

Time to change administration at the school and tell the parents Catholic Doctrine will be routinely spelled out and if they don't like it they can move their kids out of the school.

21 posted on 04/03/2014 9:14:45 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Morgana

“Nearly 1,000 parents”?

All parents of students from this school? I find that hard to believe.

“Diocese spokesman David Hains acknowledged after the meeting that the Rev. Matthew Kauth, the school’s chaplain, apologized to the parents for a March 21 speech by Sister Jane Dominic Laurel that was not the one he expected her to give.”

Typical of the church of today that rarely stands up for what’s right.


22 posted on 04/03/2014 9:15:37 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: Dilbert San Diego

How Catholic are these parents, if they decide they need to have a protest meeting on the subject of a nun speaking to issues of their shared faith???

__________________________

Not very....which is why recent popes have been calling for a New Evangelization...aimed first at those who call themselves “Catholic,” but do not live with Jesus as their Lord.


23 posted on 04/03/2014 9:17:24 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Of course those items pertain to divorce. A devout marriage would not contain them.

The Real Presence: The Eucharist: Foundation of the Christian Family [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]

24 posted on 04/03/2014 9:24:51 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I think those Catholics need to stay in their own parish and pray and work to right the wrong.

There is a great book — a person just loaned me a copy about rebuilding a Catholic Parish. Sounds like this needs to happen here.

“Rebuilt” is the name of the book.....don’t have the author locked into my brain yet.


25 posted on 04/03/2014 9:27:25 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Morgana
I'm sure somebody somewhere has said something very wise regarding the dangers of knowledge without morality.
26 posted on 04/03/2014 9:27:50 AM PDT by oldbrowser (Is Obama being blackmailed?)
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To: Steve_Seattle

27 posted on 04/03/2014 9:29:28 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: oldbrowser

I had a friend who said something similar at a Catholic School — and, unfortunately, lost her job over it.


28 posted on 04/03/2014 9:30:47 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Morgana

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Catholic_High_School
It looks like they have 350 students per class, grades 9 to 12.

That would be 1400 students. Am I to believe that for 1400 students there would be 1,000 Catholic parents showing up to protest in favor of homosexuality? It’s gotta be a bunch of people from off-site showing up.


29 posted on 04/03/2014 9:31:17 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: onedoug

They send their kids to Catholic school, then get upset when a nun gives a speech citing Catholic orthodoxy.

...don’t blame them...they’re only doing what their church has instructed them to do since the 1960’s, when everyone from the Holy See to the lowest bishop couldn’t turn tail fast enough on the Church and her Deposit of Faith in favor of appeasing modernism...

...just read the National Catholic reporter, and on any issue read the comments...most would like to see the RCC disappear, and adopt some generic Church of Christ moniker...


30 posted on 04/03/2014 9:31:33 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Steve_Seattle

or even to the schismatic ultra-traditional groups.

...and, pray tell, what ‘schismatic ultra traditional groups’ would those be...


31 posted on 04/03/2014 9:35:14 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: redgolum

Is the Lutheran school affiliated with the Missouri Synod? or the ELCA? The Missouri Synod does a pretty good job of upholding orthodoxy, with the ELCA went down the tubes years ago.


32 posted on 04/03/2014 9:39:33 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: Salvation

It’s unfortunate to see a school sell it’s high ideals for popularity and tuition revenues.


33 posted on 04/03/2014 9:43:55 AM PDT by oldbrowser (Is Obama being blackmailed?)
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To: IrishBrigade
"...and, pray tell, what ‘schismatic ultra traditional groups’ would those be."

The one I'm thinking of is The Society of St. Pius X. I think there are two or three similar groups, but not necessarily in my area.
34 posted on 04/03/2014 10:14:41 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Morgana

Unfortunately these parents have confused a parochial school with a private one. Perhaps they should enroll their children in the later if they want secular values taught.

Shame on that parochial school for not making it perfectly clear from the day they recruited the students that they will teach Christian values.


35 posted on 04/03/2014 10:15:54 AM PDT by freemama
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To: IrishBrigade
just read the National Catholic reporter, and on any issue read the comments.

The National Catholic Reporter is a notorious leftwing and heretical rag, and has been repeatedly told by the bishops of Kansas City (where they are) to drop the word "Catholic" from their name.

36 posted on 04/03/2014 10:22:13 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Salvation

37 posted on 04/03/2014 10:56:27 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: Morgana

reiterating Catholic doctrine at a Catholic school is not anywhere close to bullying


38 posted on 04/03/2014 11:06:53 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Morgana

the school caved to the homo-fascism


39 posted on 04/03/2014 11:08:18 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Morgana

They are thinking of changing the name to Sts. Sodom and Gomorrah Catholic High School.


40 posted on 04/03/2014 11:22:20 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Exactly. The Catholic Establishments support of illegal aliens is going to bite them on the as* too.


41 posted on 04/03/2014 12:04:57 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: utahagen
LCMS.

We are holding our own, but there is A LOT of pressure coming in.

The school has been a ministry outreach for our parish. It has been the source of many families coming in, and quite a few adult baptisms. However some of the families are upset that it is, well, and LCMS school that believes and teaches LCMS things. Many are actual members of the church.

In short, they love the education, and are nervous that the theology is “Driving paying students away”. Never mind we have to expand the facility to keep up with demand.

42 posted on 04/03/2014 1:05:40 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Salvation

They can (and do).

I have a number of friends that keep saying that the church as a whole is fighting the wrong battle. What they mean is that there are reasons we ended up with the homosexual movement taking out cultural institutions. Sex in whatever situation had become something that is viewed as strictly recreational, and with no strings attached (including self sex for lack of a better term).

Once you stop view the act of procreation for what it is, you have a very hard time drawing the line at one form of sexual gratification or another.


43 posted on 04/03/2014 1:10:29 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Salvation; IrishBrigade

If this school represents the state of the Church in general, along with this Pope who, through his personal philosophy, successively breaks the Tenth, Ninth and Eighth Commandments as a matter of routine, then it seems to me more and more difficult as to how indeed the Church will ever recover.


44 posted on 04/03/2014 1:58:55 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Morgana
needs your Mother Superior pic...
45 posted on 04/03/2014 2:43:51 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: onedoug

The Pope stands behind Traditional Marriage. Where did you get this information?


46 posted on 04/03/2014 6:34:32 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; onedoug

No, he doesn’t.

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/04/ncr-report-from-argentina-bergoglio-did.html


47 posted on 04/03/2014 7:46:57 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: onedoug

Pope says marriage between man, woman is image of God

Catholic Church opposed to gay marriage

(ANSA) - Vatican City, April 2 - Pope Francis told around 45,000 faithful in St Peter’s Square that marriage between a man and a woman was a image of God’s love during his general audience on Wednesday. “When a man and a woman celebrate the sacrament of marriage, God is reflected in them,” the Argentine pontiff said. “He imposes His features in them and the indelible character of His love. “The image of God is the married couple - not just the man, not just the women, but both...
and this is very beautiful”.
Francis has made openings to gay people since being elected the head of the world’s 1.2 billion Catholics last year, saying on one occassion “who am I?” to judge homosexuals who seek God. But the fact he stressed the importance of marriage between a man and woman pn Wednesday is likely to be interpreted as a reiteration of the Church’s opposition to the legalisation of gay marriage in some parts of the world

http://www.lagazzettadelmezzogiorno.it/english/pope-says-marriage-between-man-woman-is-image-of-god-no706782/


48 posted on 04/03/2014 8:07:39 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Salvation, Just let me say that I respect what you stand for. I studied Catholicism in my youth and wish nothing but the best for The Church.

It distresses me to point out that by his socialist leanings with respect to income redistribution - which regardless how you dress it up is what it is - the Pope is actually encouraging covetousness by encouraging the divisiveness that can only come from socialism, and communism. Whereas free markets are successively to capitalism, unencumbered by this type of academic soft-soapiness. Moreover, they retain that degree of humanity and social utility as to be measured, IMHO, as far superior to whatever the Pope is pushing.

If I’m wrong in this I’m open to correction.

This violation would be bad enough in and of itself, but it would inevitably lead - and demonstrably has led - to circumstances which by their consequence violate the Ninth Commandment also, which is not to bear false witness.

This in turn cavalcades into what I believe is also The Pope’s violation of the Eighth Commandment which precludes outright theft.

Sorry to seem so harsh, but I see definite problems for Catholicism - and Christianity in general, as this Pope’s influence ripples seismically across the Christian landscape.

Combined with this general loosening of Catholic standards that I mentioned earlier, can you actually see it another way?

God, I wish it were so.

What do you think I’m missing?


49 posted on 04/03/2014 10:50:55 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

what you are missing is that the pope’s remarks are often taken out of context. His remarks against capitalism wasn’t about the honest hard working businessmen in the USA, but about crony capitalism is, alas, true in places like Argentina (and here in the Philippines) where only those connected with the “big families” can succeed in business. That doesn’t make him a socialist.

And a lot of his other remarks are taken out of context also. The divorce discussion is a problem: but not if you realize a lot of “catholics” who divorce aren’t really practicing Catholics. Often they are lax and just want to have a fancy wedding in church to please their family, not to honor God with their vows.

So should a person stay with someone who doesn’t believe that marriage includes fidelity and lasts forever?


50 posted on 04/05/2014 4:29:01 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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