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The Silencing of Sister Jane
the-american-catholic.com ^ | April 6, 2014 | Donald R. McClarey

Posted on 04/06/2014 7:12:41 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

Sister Jane Dominic Laurel was tossed under the bus so frequently last week that I hope she will be able to get the tread marks out of her habit. A vibrant teacher of Catholic orthodoxy on sexual morality based on Pope John Paul II’s Theology of the Body, she had given lectures around the country with no controversy until she gave a presentation at the hilariously misnamed Catholic High School in Charlotte, North Carolina, and some parents and their spoiled brats decided to stage a massive hissy fit.

The diocese of Charlotte wasted no time in cowardly apologizing for the presentation of Sister Jane. Go here to read all about it.

Now, her own order and Aquinas College are sending her under the bus:

From Sister Mary Sarah, O.P., President of Aquinas College:

The events around the recent talk by Sister Jane Dominic Laurel, O.P. in Charlotte, NC have produced a great deal of speculation from many sides. Among the commentators, there are few who were actually present to hear the talk, which was not recorded.

(Excerpt) Read more at the-american-catholic.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; sisterjane
Cowardly and spineless come to mind.
1 posted on 04/06/2014 7:12:41 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Link.

http://the-american-catholic.com/2014/04/06/the-silencing-of-sister-jane/


2 posted on 04/06/2014 7:14:08 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet

Disgusting.She was saying what the church leaders should have been saying all along.


3 posted on 04/06/2014 7:15:27 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: NKP_Vet

What a loss.

Sister Jane did no wrong — she only told the truth. Her source — John Paul II’s “Theology of the Body.”

Prayers for her.


4 posted on 04/06/2014 7:21:11 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NKP_Vet

Nothing new here. Prophets and those speaking the truth are usually not well received and are tormented. However a culture built on decadence will crumble. Eventually Sister Jane will be remembered and honored by the faithful remnant that will reconstruct.


5 posted on 04/06/2014 7:24:22 AM PDT by allendale
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To: Farmer Dean

What, did she say something about marriage is only between a man and a wonan and offended the homos?

You know the day is coming when we find out that a large percentage of the children adopted by the homo population have been sexually abused and they confirm that pedophelia is heavily rampant in the homosexal lifestyle.


6 posted on 04/06/2014 7:25:06 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: NKP_Vet

The idea of teaching Catholic doctrine at a Catholic school is not encouraged by the diocese of Charlotte and they backed the students??


7 posted on 04/06/2014 7:25:21 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: NKP_Vet

The school needed to apologize for the presentation - sexuality instruction should all be PRE-APPROVED by the parents. The sister should also have changed her presentation when/if she realized that parental consent was not granted.

I could care less if she gave teaching authentic to the Magesterium. I don’t discuss Just War theology with my 3 year old and many parents don’t want sexuality discussed without their consent. Premature sexualization is EVIL - and for some of the more conservative members of that high school this was premature.


8 posted on 04/06/2014 7:29:12 AM PDT by impimp
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To: SkyDancer
This is insulting to the Catholic faith. Those that persecute Sister Jane are in grave error.

I watched her presentation and found her arguments sound and filled with correct Catholic doctrine.

These insipid creatures that attack her show their complete lack of understanding of church theology.

How are you?

9 posted on 04/06/2014 7:32:25 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Northern Yankee

Oh Hi! Just fine. Got in late now waiting for Skype to the parents before they head out.


10 posted on 04/06/2014 7:33:44 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Prayers for Sister Jane....


11 posted on 04/06/2014 7:36:31 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: impimp
The school needed to apologize for the presentation - sexuality instruction should all be PRE-APPROVED by the parents.

She wasn't talking about specific homosexual sexual practices, as in Massachusetts public high schools. She was addressing the evil of homosexuality itself, and its association with other social pathologies.

She was speaking to a high school audience at a Catholic school. It would be no different from speaking about the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah, or about adultery and divorce.

The parents were objecting to the criticism of homosexuality per se.

12 posted on 04/06/2014 7:39:26 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Salvation

Matthew 10:36

‘And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household’


13 posted on 04/06/2014 7:39:59 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: Northern Yankee
I watched her presentation

Do you have a link?

14 posted on 04/06/2014 7:40:07 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: NKP_Vet

Sister Jane is practicing caritas in veritate.
God bless her!


15 posted on 04/06/2014 7:53:06 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I know the grounds that those particular parents opposed the presentation. I am saying that me, as a conservative parent, would not want any discussion of homosexuality in any context in the classroom without my permission. This leads to premature sexualization of children not ready for marriage.


16 posted on 04/06/2014 8:10:18 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Northern Yankee

I am conservative and I oppose what she did. No parental pre-approval was given here. Any talk related to sexuality should have preapproval.


17 posted on 04/06/2014 8:14:02 AM PDT by impimp
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To: NKP_Vet

Dear Sister Mary Sarah, O.P., President of Aquinas College,

Perhaps you would consider allowing Sister Jane Dominic Laurel, O.P. to transfer to a CATHOLIC ORDER, since you refuse to live up to the name?!


18 posted on 04/06/2014 8:17:27 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: impimp
would not want any discussion of homosexuality in any context in the classroom without my permission.

At a Catholic high school, when a sister is explaining why it is intrinsically evil? Would you object to her explaining the reason for the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah?

19 posted on 04/06/2014 8:21:52 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: impimp

This was a Catholic high school and the talk was part of a series billed as talks on JPII’s Theology of the Body, about marriage and sexuality. Everybody knew perfectly well what it was about, and in fact, one of the sections is on social attitudes and Catholic teaching, which is exactly what she was discussing.


20 posted on 04/06/2014 8:26:03 AM PDT by livius
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

This seems to be the presentation that she gives:

http://www.newmanconnection.com/institute/courses/rich-gift-of-love/the-rich-gift-of-love-part-i


21 posted on 04/06/2014 8:26:29 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
Thanks for that link.

No, we wouldn't want this mad woman providing instruction in Catholic high schools. Sheesh.

On the plus side, maybe this controversy will drive traffic to her site. I wouldn't have been listening to her presentation otherwise. I'll have my teenage kids listen to it, too. It's a great resource.

22 posted on 04/06/2014 8:48:54 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: NKP_Vet

“All the people whom the Holy Spirit chooses to tell the truth to the people of God suffer persecution.” -Pope Francis, Mass homily, Friday, April 4, 2014


23 posted on 04/06/2014 8:54:10 AM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: NKP_Vet

Weasels in habits are still weasels.


24 posted on 04/06/2014 8:56:49 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: NKP_Vet

The attempt to separate two academic disciplines (anthropology and sociology) from being scrutinized by the faith and morals taught by the Catholic Church worries me. There is nothing that explores and/or attempts to explain human behavior, human relationships, cultures, and societies that falls outside the purview of Catholic teaching.

This is because the concern of the Church is not with making sure an opinion passes peer review, it is with Truth. Our Truth is found not in any certain school of thought or politics or ideology. It is found in the person Jesus Christ and it is against His teachings that all truth must be measured against and held accountable to.

Sister Jane, did not go outside her area of expertise. She did have valid studies and papers that supported what she had said. But even if there had not been any scholarly articles agreeing with what she said she had every right and authority to speak the unpleasant truth about human behavior and relationship, especially those formed that go against Catholic teaching.

Pray for Sister Jane and pray for the cowards who forget the fight is not to be loved by the world but to share Glory with Christ, Our Lord, for all eternity.


25 posted on 04/06/2014 9:07:01 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: lastchance
Sister Jane, did not go outside her area of expertise.

The more I think about this, the more I suspect that this was the best excuse that the president of the college could come up with.

26 posted on 04/06/2014 9:19:42 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: NKP_Vet
A vibrant teacher of Catholic orthodoxy on sexual morality based on Pope John Paul II’s Theology of the Body

JPII's "theology of the body" is not orthodox.

27 posted on 04/06/2014 9:25:22 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Farmer Dean

Being thrown under the bus..... instead of getting a bus and some gas money like those famous ‘nuns on the bus’ lobbying heroines....


28 posted on 04/06/2014 9:40:20 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: NKP_Vet
“I came to cast fire on the earth, and would that it were already kindled! I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how great is my distress until it is accomplished! Do you think that I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division. For from now on in one house there will be five divided, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”

Luke 12:49-53

Bring the fire, Sister!

29 posted on 04/06/2014 10:23:54 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: NKP_Vet

Sounds like the Diocese of Mozilla.


30 posted on 04/06/2014 10:42:04 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: delchiante

**instead of getting a bus and some gas money like those famous ‘nuns on the bus’ lobbying heroines....**

Shouldn’t that read ?
instead of getting a bus and some gas money like those famous ‘nuns on the bus’ lobbying dissenters....


31 posted on 04/06/2014 10:55:00 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: livius

http://catholiceducation.org/articles/sexuality/se0027.html

This talk was very inappropriate. I would withdraw my kids from this school.

Please read the attached document so you can more fully discover what the church really teaches about sex education.


32 posted on 04/06/2014 10:56:11 AM PDT by impimp
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Let the confused parents take their kids out and enroll them in the fine public schools who will teach them the “tolerance” they want them taught. Were they just interested in the superior acedemics and favorable school ratings and not interested in a Catholic education. Or running from problems found in public schools, such as bullying, immorality, drugs, shootings, etc.


33 posted on 04/06/2014 11:18:53 AM PDT by Boowhoknew (racist attackers claim punishment too severe)
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To: impimp

She should be given a medal for actually having the spine to tell the truth about the evils of sodomy. The HIGH SCHOOL students at the Catholic High School are quite familiar with the evils of sodomy and perverted sex acts that are contrary to God’s law. If the liberal, democrat parents don’t want their children to hear the Catholic truth, then they have no business calling themselves Catholic and they need to pull their almost grown little democrat children out of the school. End of story.


34 posted on 04/06/2014 11:34:44 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

The Aquinas College president initially send the Catholic School a letter of support for the sister in question and said she was a great teacher on the subject of homosexuality and the Catholic Church. Only after the heat came from the little cafeteria catholic Obama supporters did the second letter come out criticizing the presentation. The spineless president of the Aquinas College then threw the good sister under the bus. In otherwords she chose the almighty dollar over the Word of God. This cowardly administrator should be ashamed to call herself Catholic. She should be fired and Sister Jane Dominic given the job as president of Aquinas College.


35 posted on 04/06/2014 11:44:10 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: impimp

Believe me, I know it perfectly well. There was nothing “inappropriate” about her talk. I’m not a big Theology of the Body fan, but it is perfectly legitimate and taught about in many places. In any case, they weren’t objecting to that.

They were objecting to the fact that she used studies to back up her assertions that God’s plan was a healthier way for man to live - children of stable male-female marriages were happier, did better in school, etc. If you’re trying to convince kids that their choices have an effect in the real world, you have to give them something solid.

Many of both the parents and the students supported her and her message, but they were shouted down at the meeting by the liberal shock-troops.


36 posted on 04/06/2014 11:45:24 AM PDT by livius
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I’ll see if I can hunt it down.


37 posted on 04/06/2014 12:31:13 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: livius

I am a Catholic and I have very conservative views. It is obvious that I will continue to prefer the Catholic homeschooling I give my kids to the education given at this institution.

Surely you can recognize as legitimate the opposition to this nun’s talk from the right side of the political spectrum?


38 posted on 04/06/2014 12:38:53 PM PDT by impimp
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To: Salvation

Same thing ... lobbyists can be both... unless they are deemed to be on the wrong side of the media’s view of the world or oppose the wrong politicians...

Those nuns played the parts of lobbyists better then some...that’s why they got a bus and gas money...
groveling to their real god- government- lobbyng to have that god do more so that god of government gets the glory..

Told me a lot about their faith


39 posted on 04/06/2014 12:50:17 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: NKP_Vet
She should be fired and Sister Jane Dominic given the job as president of Aquinas College.

I hope the local bishop is on the phone with the college president. Even if he is, he has little control over the board. Since lay boards took over Catholic schools in the sixties (Land of Lakes Conference), it's been pretty much all downhill.

40 posted on 04/06/2014 12:55:45 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: impimp

At the risk of being facetious, are you sure that you shouldn’t change the spacing of your name to I M Pimp?


41 posted on 04/06/2014 1:00:24 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Pachebel --- The original one-hit wonder.)
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To: livius; St_Thomas_Aquinas; impimp; NKP_Vet
This seems to be the presentation that she gives:

I've been listening to a few of the presentations at the link (thank you), and it appears that the one that is "offensive" is Masculinity & Femininity: Difference & Gift Part IV where she talks about the controversy in question.

If this was the same talk she gave at the school in question, then it is patently obvious that these folks need to get a life. There was absolutely nothing controversial in that particular talk.

42 posted on 04/06/2014 1:52:52 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: impimp
It's not the more conservative parents, students, or teachers at that high school that were complaining. Did you read their statement? (Found in other articles online: author of anti-Sr. Jane statement was Emma Winters). These are people who demand that the homosexual condition is to be affirmed and embraced, that active homosexual conduct is a human right, that the Church ought not to teach against homosexual behavior, contraception, divorce, abortion, or any aspect of the spiritual and social disintegration surrounding sexual immorality.

So your hypothesis is incorrect in the light of the arguments made by the anti-Sister-Jane petition (which you can still google, I think, using the search words "Emma Winters" and "Charlotte Catholic High School").

43 posted on 04/06/2014 3:48:45 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mater et Magistra.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
I found it.

Go to American Catholic website and write in: "Tell it like it is Sister Jane."

Along with the article You'll see the video presented by Sister Jane. It's on Vimeo so you'll have to go to that site.

Enjoy!

44 posted on 04/06/2014 4:39:19 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: NKP_Vet

This is nothing new. Jesus said it would happen - even in His own church.

We are getting to the point where Jeremiah was just before Jerusalem’s fall (ref. Jeremiah Ch 36) - where the king burned the God-breathed scroll of Jeremiah’s words - as each piece was read to him he would cut it out and throw it in the fire. Our current “king” symbolically burns God’s words every time he opens his arugula hole.


45 posted on 04/06/2014 7:18:00 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

Update.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jenniferfitz/2014/03/students-angry-at-catholic-school-for-teaching-catholic-faith/


46 posted on 04/06/2014 7:35:19 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I understand it is those on the left who were offended. My point is that people on the right can be offended too, as the “latency period”, which serves to delay when sex topics should be introduced, was violated by the sister.


47 posted on 04/06/2014 7:52:23 PM PDT by impimp
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To: NKP_Vet

Sister can say whatever she wants.

So can the idiot parents and administrators and progressive Pollyannas who are students at the school.

God will separate the wheat from the chaff.


48 posted on 04/07/2014 5:54:05 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: impimp

My point is that people on the right can be offended too, as the “latency period”, which serves to delay when sex topics should be introduced, was violated by the sister.

...you know, April Fool’s Day was a while back...


49 posted on 04/08/2014 10:38:27 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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