Posted on 04/18/2014 10:26:17 PM PDT by GonzoII
But you do agree that the Sacrament of Penance is mentioned in the Bible?
But you do agree that the Sacrament of Penance is mentioned in the Bible?
John 20:21-23
21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
I can see that the verses above could be just what you say they are, that is confessing sins to a priest, but I can also see that it could mean nothing more than those sins against the apostles themselves.
And I also do not see any commandment for me to confess my sins to a priest, even if I could find a priest with that much time on his hands.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3146216/posts?page=34#34
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3146216/posts?page=36#36
The Scripture from the New Testament is quoted in those two links.
Why don’t you believe the Bible?
When I started going back to confession, I started with what I considered at the time my mortal sins, going way back. After I confessed, and in the weeks after, I remember other sins and so when I went back I confessed them. Last time I went, Father T was in a hurray because there was a long line and he told me that for sins earlier than my last confession I could maybe try therapy since his absolution was (pun intended) absolute. Earlier this year I had what I considered to be two biggies and knew I couldn’t make it to confession for about two weeks. I went through what I had done wrong, was profoundly sorry, did what I could to fix it and said my act of contrition. When I left confession a couple of weeks later, I realized that I had totally forgotten to tell the priest so I think that those were already forgiven. The dynamics of it are totally controlled by the Holy Spirit.
“No Catholic has ever confessed every single sin. It’s impossible to even recognize all of our sins of commission, let alone omission, so what of all those unconfessed sins”.
This shows your total ignorance of a Catholic Mass.
Not at all, it his shallow apologetic’s that I don’t appreciate. I could careless about his “church” habits. I do not like him trying to speak for “non-catholics” we don’t all believe as he previously did.
Since you’re not Catholic and you don’t have a sacrament of confession why does it bother you?
The dynamics of it are totally controlled by the Holy Spirit.>>>>
Yes ,Paul also said something like that
1 cor 12
3Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
Why don’t you believe the Bible?
But if you want to go this route do you still believe the Priest should be called Father? if so why don`t you believe the Bible?
Do you believe the Sabbath is on the first day of the week?
then why don`t you believe the Bible?
It bothers me because many people are being led astray from the simplicity of the gospel of Christ. Many catholics live in fear of not being in a state of grace, they believe merit earns them favor with God. My concern is based in love.
You have not studied church history except superficially. If you had there is no way
You could have made that statement.
You’re arguing with a “Tar Baby.”
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>> “Could he have established a priesthood to mediate his forgiveness in the New Testament?” <<
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No.
There is one mediator between God and man...
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Matt 9:6-8 Authority to forgive
Matt 9:6-8 - But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins’—he then said to the paralytic—‘Stand up, take your bed and go to your home.’ And he stood up and went to his home. When the crowds saw it, they were filled with awe, and they glorified God, who had given such authority to human beings. (NRSV)
APOLOGETIC: This verse says that not only was authority to heal given to men, but also the authority to forgive sins. “Human beings” is used in the plural. If this only referred to Jesus, it would have read, “who had given such authority to a Human Being.” Many of the followers of Jesus understood that He had given this special power to men, and many of His followers today understand the same thing.
of course it is...and the scripture is quite clear...
” Otherwise, not even interested in reading their posts.” You responded to posts, you didn’t or don’t read? Hilarity ensues. Make a confession, to Al-anon.
Pelosi is a great washer of feet. The symbolism lost, is not without merit. Pelosi is a Catholic by deed, and ritual of nothing meaningful, to the lost. Who votes for the lost?
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