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Ever wondered what happened between Good Friday and Resurrection Sunday? Where did Jesus go?
http://peterpilt.org/2012/04/07/ever-wondered-happened-between-good-friday-and-resurrection-sunday-where-did-jesus-go-and-what-did-he-accomplish/ ^ | 04/07/2012 | Peter Pilt

Posted on 04/20/2014 7:28:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

So I am writing this on Easter Saturday. We celebrated the death of Jesus yesterday at our Good Friday services and on Sunday we will celebrate his resurrection . So what happened between Friday and Sunday? Ever Wondered.

Well here is what I see in scripture happened. First a little context.

Recently I was preaching on types of Christ and I came across this scripture and it troubled me

Matt 12:40

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

So Jesus said that Jonah was a type of Jesus.

Most people know the story of Jonah. He was a Minor Prophet in the Old Testament that was told by God to go and preach repentance to the people of Nineveh. Jonah doesn’t want to and so he goes in the opposite direction on a boat. Ultimately he is in a major storm and gets thrown overboard by the crew and is swallowed by a whale.

Some commentators believe that Jonah actually died in the whale. Check out this verse

Jonah 2:6

To the roots of the mountains I sank down;

the earth beneath barred me in forever.

But you brought my life up from the pit,

O LORD my God.

So after three days he got vomited up on the shore and he goes and preaches to Nineveh and Nineveh repents.

Go forward about 6 or 700 years, Jesus says “As Jonah was in the belly of the whale, so must I be in the belly of the whale 3 days and 3 nights.”

What happened when Jesus died?

He went to the belly of the earth, but what did he do?

He died on the cross, disappeared for three days and then he comes back.

Where did He go and what did He do?

The bible doesn’t say a real lot about what He did do. But it gives us some clues that we can draw conclusions from.

Acts 2:31

31he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption.

Peter is preaching and he talks about Jesus and he said that when Jesus died his soul wasn’t left in Hades. But he was resurrected. So we know, that when Jesus died on the cross, he went to a place called Hades.

Ephesians 4:7 & 8

7But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift. 8Therefore He says:
“When He ascended on high,
He led captivity captive,
And gave gifts to men.”[a]

9(Now this, “He ascended”–what does it mean but that He also first[b] descended into the lower parts of the earth?

So we know

No 1- He went into Hades

No 2 -He descended into the lower parts of the Earth.

1 Peter 3:18-19

18For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us[a] to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison,

But I don’t believe that you can have a second chance once you die. Thus a problem with the idea that Jesus went down there and preached to the spirits in prison.

I have done some research and want to bring some thoughts to you and bring some clarity to this scripture.

In the English language, there is one word for hell and that is, hell.

In the bible there is 3 words for hell. And only one of them is hell as we understand the term.

The first one is Sheol.Which is used only in the Old Testament.

The second one is Hades.Which is used only in the New Testament.

They are the same place. Just a different language.

Sheol and Hades is a temporary place where people go once they have departed this life. This was pre resurrection of Jesus.

Ps 139:8

If I go up to the heavens, you are there;

if I make my bed in the sheol, you are there

Job 7:9

As a cloud vanishes and is gone,

so he who goes down to sheol does not return.

Hades is defined in the Strong’s Greek Dictionary, as the place of departed souls.

Matt 16:18

And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

The 3rd hell is a place called Gehenna. It is the ultimate hell. It is the place in Revelations 20 and 21 how at the end of time, when all the judgement has happened, it actually says death and Hades will be cast into Gehenna. Into the lake of fire. Remember that – Hades is thrown into Gehanna.

Our concept of hell, fire and brimstone etc, that is Gehenna.

At the moment Gehenna is empty.Because the judgement of the end of time hasn’t happened yet. It is Hades that we actually deal with right now.

The bible refers to Hades as always being down. In Isaiah it says that therefore the grave enlarges its appetite. It means that Hades can expand to fit more people.

Rev 5:3

But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it.

Hades had 2 compartments. It had a compartment where those with no faith in God would go to after they died. And there would be a tormenting. The other compartment is a place they used to call Paradise. Where people were kept in comfort, awaiting the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Here is a scripture that supports this idea.

Luke 16:19-24

19“There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. 20But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, 21desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell[a] from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24“Then he cried and said, “Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

Jesus is on the cross and there is a thief who says, “remember me when you come into your kingdom. Jesus says “This day, you will be with me in Paradise.”

Luke 23:39-43

39 Then one of the criminals who were hanged blasphemed Him, saying, “If You are the Christ, save Yourself and us.”

40 But the other, answering, rebuked him, saying, “Do you not even fear God, seeing you are under the same condemnation? 41 And we indeed justly, for we receive the due reward of our deeds; but this Man has done nothing wrong.” 42 Then he said to Jesus, “Lord,remember me when You come into Your kingdom.”

43 And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”

He was going to the Paradise side of Hades. For a particular purpose.

What happened when He went there?

He went and collected all the righteous souls and took them to heaven. When Noah and Abraham died, they went to Paradise. But when you and I die, the bible says Absent from the body, but present with the Lord. When we go from this life to the next, we go straight to Heaven. We live post resurrection.

The system changed once the resurrection of Jesus happened.

Matt 27:51-53

At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split.

The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life.

They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus’ resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people.

Notice that all the saints, the people who died with a faith in God, rose from their grave, POST JESUS’ RESURRECTION.

Now, if you find yourself in Hades, you are in all sorts of trouble. It means you have died without a faith in Jesus Christ. Those people are awaiting the judgement that Revelation talks about.

So what about the scripture that says that Jesus went down and preached to the spirits in prison?

1 Peter 3:18-19

18For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us[a] to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison,

Preached = to make a declaration – according to the Greek definition of the word that is used here.

In 1 Peter 3:18, I believe that Jesus was down there declaring stuff to the devil.

Jesus went down there, emptied the paradise section of Hades, took those guys up to heaven post resurrection and He started to declare some things to the devil.

There is a scripture in Ecclesiastes that says that “Wisdom is found in the house of mourning.” What wisdom?

1. Death is inevitable. Everyone is going to die. People think that if they don’t talk or think about death, somehow they will escape it. You cannot escape death. It is there. You will die.

2. Jesus has provided a way of escape. Every single one of us is going to die. He died so that you and I would be prepared for the inevitable.

3. Death can come as a surprise.I wonder how many people go, “Wow. I’m dead!”

Jesus is our escape plan. He was sent here to earth for us to escape Hades and Gehenna so we would got to an eternity with God. We have got to think through our salvation plan. We’ve got to think that death is inevitable.

Enjoy life, enjoy the ride, but be prepared for any surprises that may come your way.

To me, my eternal salvation is too big a deal to risk waiting until I’m older.

Jesus is our escape plan. He is our Noah’s Ark. Our substitutionary lamb.


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1 posted on 04/20/2014 7:28:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

He went to Cabo for the holiday weekend!


2 posted on 04/20/2014 7:32:52 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SeekAndFind
He died on the cross, disappeared for three days and then he comes back.
He died on Friday and arose on Sunday, so he only disappeared for one day, not three.
3 posted on 04/20/2014 7:35:01 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hallelujah and Amen.


4 posted on 04/20/2014 7:35:01 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind

A very good post. Thank you for it.

But truthfully, I never wondered from childhood, when I was taught the Apostles’ Creed:

“... was crucified, died and was buried; he descended into hell; on the third day he rose again from the dead;...”

“Resurrexi, et adhuc tecum sum, alleluia!”
—Introit, Easter Sunday (Missale Romanum).

Happy Easter to all.


5 posted on 04/20/2014 7:36:09 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: oh8eleven

He arose on the THIRD DAY: Friday = No. 1, Saturday = No.2, Sunday = No.3.


6 posted on 04/20/2014 7:38:20 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for posting this. ‘Pod.


7 posted on 04/20/2014 7:43:41 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: paterfamilias

Totally bogus answer. If we know where he was Friday and Sunday, how can he be “disappeared” for three days?


8 posted on 04/20/2014 7:45:55 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind
We celebrated the death of Jesus yesterday at our Good Friday services and on Sunday

How then did he lay in the grave 3 days and 3 nights?

9 posted on 04/20/2014 7:52:33 AM PDT by fso301
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To: SeekAndFind

Excellent, thanks for posting.


10 posted on 04/20/2014 7:55:00 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: oh8eleven

let’s not revisit Gen 1. and length of day
He died about 3P on Fri. The Jewish day ends about 6P. That is day one Jesus is dead - not a complete day but a day anyway for which we account. He is dead complete Sat past its sunset. Sometime prior to sunrise Sunday Jesus rose. That is third day - not a complete day but a day for which we must account.


11 posted on 04/20/2014 7:56:52 AM PDT by snoopy 'n linus
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To: snoopy 'n linus
Sorry, does not compute. He was visible on Friday; He was not visible on Saturday; He was visible on Sunday. Therefore, He disappeared for one day, not three.
12 posted on 04/20/2014 8:13:10 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shopping at WalMart?


13 posted on 04/20/2014 8:18:18 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cleveland, which is kind of like hell. Lake Erie caught fire once, so it already has a “lake of fire”. And Cedar Point, which could be considered a place of torment if you have motion sickness.

CC


14 posted on 04/20/2014 8:30:01 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: SeekAndFind
Good summary of the event...Anyone who takes the time to study the scriptures will come to the same conclusion...

That the church would rise up and the gates of Hades could not prevail against it. It was the announcement of the beginning of the Church age –

I am opposed to the idea that this is a reference to Satan having power over the church...I believe this is a reference to Paradise, where OT saints went to await the Lord...

Those saints were captives in hell...Jesus went down and ripped the gates from the hinges and all were released as Jesus led them out of there...

I believe those are the gates that would no longer prevail against the church...Instead of being stuck in the ground, Christians now head straight up in the direction of the North Star to ever be with the Lord in heaven...

And with the gates lying on the ground this eliminates any idea of a purgatory...

The Catholics use that verse to claim Satan will have no power over their religion and that their religion because of that verse is infallible...

And as we know, Jesus spent 3 nights there...Huge crowd...

15 posted on 04/20/2014 8:35:16 AM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: fso301; oh8eleven; snoopy 'n linus; SeekAndFind
From the original post (and from the KJV):

For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. - Matthew 12:40 KJV.

Three days and three nights.

According to traditional timeline...

Friday 3:00 PM - Jesus dies.
Friday sundown - Those preparing tomb and Jesus body stop due to end of day on Shabbat, stone seals tomb.

So Friday 3:00 PM to sundown equal 1 day?

Friday sundown to Saturday sunrise - 1 night (no dispute).
Saturday sunrise to Saturday sundown - 1 day (no dispute). Nothing done to Jesus's body or tomb due to Shabbat.
Saturday sundown to Sunday sunrise - 1 night (no dispute)
Sunday sunrise - Jesus rises, tomb preparers arrive at empty tomb. Some disciples meet the risen Jesus.

First thing Sunday morning equals 1 day? And we're still missing 1 night.


Note here I never dispute the Resurrection of Jesus Christ; I indeed believe that happened. It's just that the traditional timeline of the Resurrection, the one that was used to justify Sunday as the "Sabbath", doesn't add up to me.


16 posted on 04/20/2014 8:39:45 AM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: angryoldfatman

From my older research Jesus was crucified and died on Thursday, the year of the Jewish Holy High Sabbath of Passover, not our Sabbath. He arose on the first day of the week...so Thurs, Fri, and Sat nights explain the three days and three nights....I’ll check back and see if I can find the actual year it was thought to happen as those Holy Sabbaths change by year, and that one was on a Thursday.


17 posted on 04/20/2014 8:44:54 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: SeekAndFind

A really helpful post which I enjoyed very much. I agree with all of it and hope that everyone whosoever reads it (just like accepting Jesus’ birth at Christmastime) will just go with it, placing all their trust and dependency for daily living in Jesus the Jewish Messiah as Lord (The Overlord) of all Creation, and follow after Him in every way we can, remembering He is loving and forgiving to everyone who believes in him. And that is you and I.

He is alive and ready to return here when The Father gives the go-ahead.

It’s an unbearable deal for all humanity so very full of sin!


18 posted on 04/20/2014 9:07:31 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

...unbeaTable deal...


19 posted on 04/20/2014 9:10:50 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: angryoldfatman

Does not add up to me why He who created iron and wood and Man would allow the creature to Nail the creator to a Cross.


20 posted on 04/20/2014 9:14:07 AM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: oh8eleven; fso301

I heard by a teacher that in Jesus’ culture the word “day” did not mean 24 hours, it could be used to mean any amount of time, just as we say yesterday but it was in the afternoon of yesterday. I work at a place that has online updating and we cannot say that the file will be updated in 3 days, we have to say 72 hours because the system counts minutes. The customer would assume that the “day” started at 12:01 am when the third day for him could in fact be 4:00 pm if the starting point was 4:00 pm.

Also, this reminds me of the parable of the workman’s wages where those hired in the morning had agreed to work for a wage, then others hired in the afternoon also agreed to work for the same wage. Without watches to know the exact time, the day concept was probably easier to “work” with.

Here is a link for that explanation:
https://bible.org/question/were-three-days-and-three-nights-jesus-was-grave-full-72-hours

Ironically I was listening to a pastor on TV who was going to explain the 3 night controversy but I had to leave for church (Palm Sunday) before I could hear that explanation...So I searched online for the explanation. Here is one that I will accept although I do not accept the beginning of the author’s reasoning (it was some weird wording). He does tell us what Jesus said and I will take the word of Jesus.

Jesus’s suffering started on Thursday night (In the Bible the day begins at sunset, fasting starts at sunset) in the Garden of Gethsemane when He sweated blood. He specifically stated to Judas and the Pharisees [Luke 22] “While I was with you daily in the temple, you did not lay hands on Me; but this hour and the power of darkness are yours.” [NASV] So the first night was Thursday night that Jesus’ time of darkness started with persecution from the Pharisees because the Father was willing for Him to suffer and to Jesus, that was going through Gehenna. Thursday night our time was spent with the Pharisees, Friday night and Saturday night as stated in the study posted above.

The links to article...
http://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/media/e/1170/t/explain-how-jesus-was-in-the-tomb-3-days-—3-nights..aspx

Makes sense to me. Funny thing here is that literature critiques are done by academia in view of historical context ONLY, except with the Bible and our constitution. We need to keep that in mind when we read our Bible and discuss terms and ideas that we find confusing. The moral principles will never change. Who God is does not change. Our cultural views are what is different especially in language. I am studying psychology and there is a school of psychology that studies languages. really interesting. Some cultures have 10 words for love. Also, the way psychologists study people to find out who they are, is the same way a believer gets to know God. Makes sense since we are created in His image. Thanks for listening. I love to ramble.

P.S. I personally think Jesus spent some time in Gehenna, because He had to bear the wrath of God in place of me and you so we wouldn’t have to go there. One day is like a thousand years (or eternity).


21 posted on 04/20/2014 9:15:28 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: angryoldfatman

Jesus would have died sometime shortly before sundown on Wednesday afternoon, then Joseph of Aremetha would have placed him In the tomb...maybe Thursday in tomb, as sundown is change of the Jewish day, not actually Thursday yet when he died.


22 posted on 04/20/2014 9:19:37 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
I also read something like that. I think the idea is that the Passover Lamb was sacrificed on Nissan 14 and the Passover meal was eaten at sundown, just as Nissan 15 began. If Nissan 14 was a Thursday, then Jesus was crucified that day and He sure spent 3 days and 3 nights in the tomb. It gets confusing because we know that the bodies had to be removed from the crosses before the Sabbath, but the first day of Passover was considered a Sabbath (Lev. 23). So, there were 2 Sabbaths, back to back (Friday and Saturday), and on Sunday the women went to the tomb. Some people translate Matt. 28:1 as " early Sunday morning “after the Sabbaths”

Very interesting, John 18:28 says that Jesus' accusers would not enter Pilate’s courtyard because they would be defiled and would not be able to eat the Passover that evening. That would make it Nissan 14.

The Talmud also tells “They hung Yeshua the Nazarene on Erev Pesach”–which means on the “eve of Passover” (b. Sanhedrin 67a and 43a).

My question is, since I don't have any doubt the Last Supper was a Passover meal, was it considered acceptable to eat it the day before it was supposed? Oh, well, when I think I have the days and nights straight, now I worry about the date for the Passover meal... Any comments, anybody?

23 posted on 04/20/2014 9:48:48 AM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: SeekAndFind

A great study,

thanks for sharing!

He is Risen!


24 posted on 04/20/2014 10:12:45 AM PDT by gettinolder
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To: Former Fetus

http://www.judaismvschristianity.com/Passover_dates.htm

The Nissan 14 was a WED, and Thursday would have been the High Sabbath, so that would mean Christ was crucified on Wed...Thursday would have began after sundown...

Thurs Night
Thurs Day
Fri night
Fri day
Sat night
Sat day
and resurrected after sundown on Sat which is actually Sun, first day of week....women find tomb empty Sun AM.

What is confusing to me is the night of that day is before the actual daytime, when it begins at sundown. Does that make sense?


25 posted on 04/20/2014 10:13:17 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Former Fetus

This Scripture important as it names Preperation Day before High Sabbath as the day of Crucifixcion:

by Steve Sawyer

Let us re-examine a critical verse: John 19:31

“Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.” (NKJ


26 posted on 04/20/2014 10:21:20 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
What is confusing to me is the night of that day is before the actual daytime, when it begins at sundown.

That's the Jewish way of counting days, based on Gen 1 (there was an evening, there was a morning).

By your calculations, Jesus would have spent 4 nights in the tomb (Wed to Thu, Thu to Fri, Fri to Sat, and Sat to Sun) instead of 3!

I think the problem is setting the year in which Jesus was crucified. By your link, if you select A.D. 34, you get Nissan 14 on a Thursday and...

Thursday Day 1
Thursday to Friday Night 1
Friday Day 2 High Sabbath
Friday to Saturday Night 2
Saturday Day 3 regular Sabath
Saturday to Sunday Night 3

It doesn't really matter, it does not affect our salvation. But it kind of makes sense, doesn't it?

27 posted on 04/20/2014 10:36:43 AM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Former Fetus

OK then my year is wrong, because I wanted the high day on Thursday to make it come out right, so you say it’s 34 AD if I understand correctly?


28 posted on 04/20/2014 10:42:38 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Former Fetus

Makes a lot of sense depending on the year. Thank you!


29 posted on 04/20/2014 10:44:16 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: SeekAndFind
Jesus went and released the dead immediately upon His death. Matthew ch 28 starting at verse 50 describes graves opening and the dead now alive and walking about. We often forget once death comes we are gone from this world into the next. Jesus's Spirit was gone before he was laid in the tomb.

What you posted makes more sense when Jesus after He arose from the grave at first said Do Not Touch Me. Obviously He had and still has the power to be in Heaven or with His followers at an instant but at that point had not yet went into heaven thus touching Him would have defiled Him. At some point before appearing to the Disciples in the room He went into Heaven and thus the sacrifice accepted.

30 posted on 04/20/2014 10:54:39 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Kackikat

I say 34 AD is the only year that makes sense. Keep in mind that the High Sabbath could NOT have been on a Thursday or else the women would have gone to the tomb on Friday... which they didn’t. They had to wait until both the High Sabbath (Friday) and the ordinary Sabbath (Saturday) were over before they went.


31 posted on 04/20/2014 10:55:18 AM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Former Fetus

I was using 31 AD with Nisan 14 on Wednesday.


32 posted on 04/20/2014 10:55:32 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

I know, and it gives you an extra night in the tomb plus a day for the women to visit the tomb before Sunday. That’s why I don’t think 31 AD is the year.


33 posted on 04/20/2014 10:58:14 AM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Former Fetus

If the High Sabbath is on Friday and Christ had to be crucified on Preparation Day according to Scripture, then Thursday is Preparation Day in 34 AD? So you say The Last Supper was Thursday Night and then Thursday DAY he was crucified? So three days and three nights are

Thurs Day...Jesus would have had to be crucified early in AM to get a full day. Is that right?
Fri Night
Fri Day
Sat Night
Sat Day
Sun Night which begins at sundown on Saturday?
The women find Jesus gone from tomb on Sunday Day early.

This is what you are saying? I’m not disagreeing, just working out the 3 days and 3 nights with you per ‘As it was with Jonah’....scripture.


34 posted on 04/20/2014 11:04:25 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Former Fetus

I agree that it does not matter for sake of argument, as we have our salvation.
However there are several things that had to be fulfilled Biblically and here is one explanation that says it can only be 31 AD.

http://www.4angelspublications.com/Books/GCC/Chapter%205.pdf


35 posted on 04/20/2014 11:17:55 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

Yes.


36 posted on 04/20/2014 11:19:03 AM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Kackikat
On the fourteenth day of the first month at twilight is the Lord’s Passover. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the Lord; seven days you must eat unleavened bread. On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it. (Lev. 23:5-7)

It sounds to me like the High Sabbath is the day AFTER Passover, which agrees with the suggestion that Jesus was crucified on Thursday, 2 Sabbaths passed, then the women went to the tomb. However, that link suggest that "Seventh-day Adventists are the only ones who believe and teach that Jesus Christ was crucified in A.D. 31". WOW! Now you've scared me! I'll come back to it later, but right now I'm too startled to think coherently.

37 posted on 04/20/2014 11:32:40 AM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Big Red Badger

Does not add up to me why He who created iron and wood and Man would allow the creature to Nail the creator to a Cross.

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Besides providing a path for our otherwise unattainable reconciliation, it was to answer the inevitable excuse of mankind when faced with God.

“You’re an omnipotent, omniscient being! You don’t know what it’s like being here and experiencing all of the trials and tribulations we human beings go through!”

He did, and He does.

What doesn’t make sense is our not being able to accept a gift so freely given.


38 posted on 04/20/2014 12:02:06 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: Former Fetus

Ok I am not 7th Day Adventist....lol I just read the account and applied it to what I had read elsewhere and my chart that I posted the link to....I am not saying it is right.

We are both Christians so I am not going to be upset if its a different year. We are just trying to figure out for our own satisfaction, it isn’t like we are going on the road with this...okay, still FR friends?


39 posted on 04/20/2014 12:41:25 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: fso301

It doesn’t say He was in the tomb for three nights.

It’s always three days. When Jesus talks abobut the temple being torn down and the masive bricks will not have one left on top of another, I will rebuild it in three days. Not three days and three nights.


40 posted on 04/20/2014 12:44:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: angryoldfatman

I know why.

Because those who can’t accept it believe it’s too easy.

In fact their own attitude proves it’s the most difficult thing in the world to accept.

Because it involves genuine self realization you are inherently bad, your heart is bad, our natural way is to be bad and turn away from God and good, and that you have to really acknowledge you deserve eternal punishment, have to realize there’s nothing you can do on your own to make it right, and let the enormity of THAT sink in, and then sincerely ask what can one do to avoid such punishment? And be grateful God made a way - one way - for everyone - no preference, not easier for one or another - the rich and the poor, makes no difference - you all get there the same way, on your knees with a shattered heart.

Without help from God natural man can’t even accept salvation. He gives us the saving faith in order to believe. He has to. The natural mind can’t get there on its own.

That’s why it’s so difficult to accept what is so freely given.


41 posted on 04/20/2014 12:50:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Kackikat

you bet!


42 posted on 04/20/2014 12:59:11 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: huldah1776

Thanks!


43 posted on 04/20/2014 12:59:59 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Secret Agent Man

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. (Matt. 12:40)


44 posted on 04/20/2014 1:01:11 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: angryoldfatman

Thanks!


45 posted on 04/20/2014 1:02:24 PM PDT by fso301
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To: huldah1776; oh8eleven; fso301; Kackikat; angryoldfatman; NYer; Salvation; SeekAndFind

I have cousins that live in Gehanna, Ohio. It is a nice little town. If that is ‘hell’ then it isn’t so bad. — just a little joke. And the bible doesn’t say how many nights, only “days.”

And don’t forget to begin debate on “how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.”


46 posted on 04/20/2014 1:07:33 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

King James Bible
“For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

NOW we don’t care that as an unbeliever you want to make fun of the discussion, but you are certainly unfamiliar with truth and the Bible. So we won’t see you in hell which you think is okay...you are on your own!


47 posted on 04/20/2014 1:12:19 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: GreyFriar; oh8eleven; fso301; Kackikat; angryoldfatman; NYer; Salvation; SeekAndFind
And the bible doesn’t say how many nights, only “days.”

What about:

Matt 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

48 posted on 04/20/2014 1:14:08 PM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301; oh8eleven; Kackikat; angryoldfatman; NYer; Salvation; SeekAndFind

I forgot about Matthew using Jonah and the whale as an example. I just get frustrated over what often seems to turn into a “proof test of faith/belief” over ‘how to count the 3 days.” And if you don’t believe as another thinks is true, then .....


49 posted on 04/20/2014 1:23:23 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

We aren’t arguing, at least Former Fetus and I aren’t, we are just discussing how to find the actual year Jesus was crucified.
Now, that isn’t relevant to our Salvation, and we do not care if others believe differently. This was a discussion and if you have something to add fine that relates fine, but if not...butt out. Humor is okay.

However making fun of people who are dedicated to their faith is not nice. I made that comment to you, because if you don’t believe in God, that’s your choice. We aren’t trying to convert you.

Happy Easter Anyway.


50 posted on 04/20/2014 1:38:28 PM PDT by Kackikat
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