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Syria's Assad Visits Recaptured Christian Village
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 4/20/14 | Barbara Surk

Posted on 04/21/2014 6:17:09 AM PDT by marshmallow

BEIRUT (AP) — Syria's president marked Easter with a tour Sunday of an ancient Christian village recently recaptured by his forces, state media said, as the country's Greek Orthodox Patriarch vowed that country's Christians "will not submit and yield" to extremists.

Syrian state TV and the country's official SANA news agency said President Bashar Assad visited the hilltop hamlet of Maaloula, inspecting the damage done in recent fighting to its monasteries and churches.

Rebels, including fighters from the al-Qaida-affiliated Nusra Front, seized Maaloula several times late last year, most recently in December. Government troops swept through the village on Monday, sending rebel fighters fleeing to nearby hills.

Maaloula is located some 40 miles (60 kilometers) northeast of Damascus and is home to a large Christian population. The army's triumph in the village was an important symbolic prize for the government in its quest to be seen as protector of religious minorities, including Syria's Christians, who have largely supported the Assad family's decades of rule.

During his visit to the village Sunday, Assad promised to defend Christians — who make up about 10 percent of Syria's prewar population of 23 million — and protect churches that he said were part of the country's cultural heritage.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Islam; Orthodox Christian
KEYWORDS: assad; christians; kerry; maaloula; obama; putin; russia; syriawar

1 posted on 04/21/2014 6:17:09 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Give the Christians guns.


2 posted on 04/21/2014 6:21:27 AM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle

I believe that they have guns and some fought back.

Funny how Putin and Assad are doing more for CHristians than our @sshat in chief.


3 posted on 04/21/2014 6:25:11 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: marshmallow
Poor Syrians.

My husband and I visited there when Hafiz was ruling and we both LOVED Damascus. I still use the Damask tablecloths we bought over there.

4 posted on 04/21/2014 6:29:22 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: nikos1121
Funny how Putin and Assad are doing more for CHristians than our @sshat in chief.

1. Putin is a thug who wants to be czar.
2. Assad is a thug, like his father.
3. Obama is useless, never presidential material.

5 posted on 04/21/2014 6:31:48 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: marshmallow; struggle

Amen struggle, amen. May they (the Christians) be fully armed. May Assad allow them all the weapons needed because we know obama and his minions are arming the islamists. Is well know islamists, obama and his minions, democrats and even some republicans hate Christians. Time to brew some more TEA.


6 posted on 04/21/2014 6:32:39 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: cloudmountain

Correct ... I take the devil Assad over the islamists fighting him though. Yes putin is a thug. obama is a thug also and hates Christians. Could only capitalize Assad. Goodness gracious, what a world.


7 posted on 04/21/2014 6:35:24 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: struggle

“Give the Christians guns.”

Several months ago some Christian leaders refused offers of guns from the Syrian government. Others are taking up arms since 2012: http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2012/07/31/syrian-christians-are-now-arming-themselves/


8 posted on 04/21/2014 6:43:31 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: no-to-illegals
Correct ... I take the devil Assad over the islamists fighting him though. Yes putin is a thug. obama is a thug also and hates Christians. Could only capitalize Assad. Goodness gracious, what a world.

Assad would, if necessary, step right into the "islamist" position at the drop of a hat. I don't underestimate his cruelty. Fruit doesn't fall too far from its tree.

You don't capitalize Putin, a Christian, but capitalize the name of a son of a thug. Interesting view of the world. I guess you don't think that Assad is a thug as well. He is, you know. Sooner or later you will see that side.

Side note: Putin's mother was extremely religious. Just for information.

9 posted on 04/21/2014 6:45:41 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: nikos1121

Wherever there is a Christian/Islam struggle, our coward in chief will side with the jihadists.


10 posted on 04/21/2014 6:54:20 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: cloudmountain

Correct again except the devil I know is better than the devil I do not know (imho).


11 posted on 04/21/2014 7:05:36 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: marshmallow

Prayer for Peace in Syria

 

God of Compassion,
Hear the cries of the people of Syria,
Bring healing to those suffering from the violence,
Bring comfort to those mourning the dead,
Strengthen Syria’s neighbors in their care and welcome for refugees,
Convert the hearts of those who have taken up arms,
And protect those committed to peace.

God of Hope,
Inspire leaders to choose peace over violence and to seek reconciliation with enemies,
Inspire the Church around the world with compassion for the people of Syria,
And give us hope for a future of peace built on justice for all.

We ask this through Jesus Christ,
Prince of Peace and Light of the World,
Amen.

Petition: For the people of Syria, that God may strengthen the resolve of leaders to end the fighting and choose a future of peace.


12 posted on 04/21/2014 7:43:13 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: cloudmountain

I should post an article on this subject.

The irony is that we have a guy in the white house who wishes to redistribute wealth in this country, so only a certain few will benefit, but in reality we are all much poorer.

He’s done nothing truly innovative to make us a richer people, or to increase our standard of living. If anything the standard of living for the poor is worse now.


13 posted on 04/21/2014 12:00:32 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: no-to-illegals
Correct again except the devil I know is better than the devil I do not know (imho).

I never did get that aphorism. I have never had an opportunity to use it. I guess you and I have very different thought processes.

14 posted on 04/21/2014 5:09:40 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: nikos1121
The irony is that we have a guy in the white house who wishes to redistribute wealth in this country, so only a certain few will benefit, but in reality we are all much poorer.
He’s done nothing truly innovative to make us a richer people, or to increase our standard of living. If anything the standard of living for the poor is worse now.

His arrogance ALMOST outweighs his lack of ability, brains, conscience and morality. How does he have the presumption, the gall, the conceit to DARE to think that HE can "redistribute" our wealth? Who the hell does he think he is? What ARROGANCE, priggishness, self-importance, superciliousness, pomposity, high-handedness, brass, nerve and ego!

His disdain, hubris, vanity, insolence, conceit and smugness make me glad for every bump in his road. I delight in hearing about every PIMPLE in his life, both public and private.

Thank you, Founding Fathers, for putting in those checks and balances. They are more relevant today than ever before because they keep in check this POTUS fool, jerk, moron, ass, boob, blockhead, dunce, clod, twerp AND bonehead. He is a buffoon.

As for the nincompoops who nominated, banked and voted him into office the first time, they are loons, numbskulls, oafs, dimwits, dopes, saps, imbeciles, ninnies, birdbrains, idiots and cretins.
DOUBLE all that for those voting for him the second time.

Michelle is merely a twit with a big butt. THAT is why she had Oprah Winfrey travel with her, so SOMEONE else would have a bigger butt than hers.

Am I being harsh?

15 posted on 04/21/2014 5:31:12 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: no-to-illegals
Amen struggle, amen. May they (the Christians) be fully armed. May Assad allow them all the weapons needed because we know obama and his minions are arming the islamists. Is well know islamists, obama and his minions, democrats and even some republicans hate Christians. Time to brew some more TEA.

There aren't enough Christians there for a win. They are leaving Iraq and they will continue to do so. The great grandparents will die, then the grandparents. With them gone those whose ties are no more will eventually leave. There is NOTHING there for them.

They are Arabs. They have their history and culture in common. But, there has to be a crisis when their faith is compromised. Taking guns in hand is no solution; never has been and never will be though it will make some people there and here feel good.

They are in a no-win scenario. There are 442 million Arabs in this world and they are, with the few exceptions like the Christian Iraqis, Muslim. My husband and I lived in Saudi Arabia FIVE years. Being surrounded by nothing but Muslims tried my soul, even though 99.9% of them were very nice to me.
Simply put the culture was just to foreign to me. I could always get out and we did, OFTEN.

For the Iraqi Jews it was worse. Most were expelled in the early 1950's. A few hung around for various good reasons. For the Iraqi Christians, it's a 100% no-win, heartbreaking split with their homeland.

Did you ever hear of the MARSH ARABS who live at the delta of the Tigris/Euphrates?
From Google:
The Marsh Arabs (Arabic: عرب الأهوار‎ ʻArab al-Ahwār "Arabs of the Marshlands"), also known as the Maʻdān (Arabic: معدان‎), are inhabitants of the Tigris-Euphrates marshlands in the south and east of Iraq and along the Iranian border. Comprising members of many different tribes and tribal confederations, such as the Āl Bū Muḥammad, Ferayghāt, Shaghanbah and Banī Lām, the Maʻdān had developed a unique culture centred on the marshes' natural resources. Many of the marshes' inhabitants were displaced when the wetlands were drained during and after the 1991 uprisings in Iraq.

These marsh Arabs are doomed as well. THEY don't want their lives to change, but, their lives would PROBABLY be better if they joined the 21st, 20th, 19th, oh what the heck, the 14th century.
The were SOMETHING else.

16 posted on 04/21/2014 5:47:54 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

~1. Putin is a thug who wants to be czar.
2. Assad is a thug, like his father.~

Who are their alternatives in the Middle East regarding Christian rights?
What is a ‘non-thuggish’ way to deal with Al-Qaeda and protect minorities in a Christian-hating Muslim lands?


17 posted on 04/21/2014 5:58:58 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix
1. Who are their alternatives in the Middle East regarding Christian rights?

1. There are NO alternatives. Christians are a minority by absolutely HUGE numbers. That is why so many are leaving their homeland. It's no place for Christians. I don't think it ever was.

The Muslim governments are NOT anti-Christian in any way, shape or form. You see, we Christians are PEOPLE OF THE BOOK. They respect our Bible VERY much. Their Koran HAS Jesus in it, only His name is ISSA. Mary is MIRIAM. The Koran IS a knockoff of our Bible.

I have a Koran, a gift my husband got from a Saudi contractor. ARAMCO had to eliminate the bribery ability so they made ALL gifts to ARAMCO Americans forbidden EXCEPT for a Koran. So, my husband got one as a gift from one of the Saudi contractors.
It really is a knock-off of our Bible.
THAT is the only reason why we Americans are so acceptable...because we too are PEOPLE OF THE BOOK.

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2. What is a ‘non-thuggish’ way to deal with Al-Qaeda and protect minorities in a Christian-hating Muslim lands?

a. Al-Qaeda: there is no "non-thuggish" way to deal with it because it is a thug of the first order. Shoot to kill. Send our SEAL teams. No mercy.

b. Protect minorities: it isn't our business. Really it isn't. Those countries have their own governments and it is VERY, VERY presumptuous and arrogant of us to think that we have the right to superimpose our values on foreign governments.
We just CAN'T go in there and tell those foreign governments how to run their countries. We have no more right to do that than they would have telling us how to run our business and government. It fact, it is the height of conceit on our part to think we have the right to do that.
We can SUGGEST only and TRY to make those suggestions NOT a demand. That only sets up their bristles.

THERE WAS A TIME when we could bully our way over there because they were all poor as church mice. However, thanks to American NEEDS for more and more and more and more petroleum and THEIR having more petroleum and natural gas than GOD, we have little to say. THEY are the wealthy ones now, thanks to US.
God does have an enormous sense of irony, doesn't He? Lol. Well, why not? He INVENTED irony. HE gave those poor, miserable Bedu, once God's poorest people, ALL the money in the world now.
All the leverage we have now is "please." If we weren't the largest consumers of petroleum and natural gas, we...well, that's water under the bridge now, isn't it?

By the way: EXCELLENT questions.

18 posted on 04/21/2014 7:22:10 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

~Christians are a minority by absolutely HUGE numbers. That is why so many are leaving their homeland. It’s no place for Christians. I don’t think it ever was.~

Why and where should they go? For your information, Middle East is a place where Christianity came from. Our European ancestors were still eating each other for dinner, worshipped fire and water at the time the Christians were already in place in Syria. Why should they leave and where?? To Britain or France there they doesn’t consider Christians an eligible for asylump rotected minority, but no-go sharia zones in inner cities are immediate reality?

~Al-Qaeda: there is no “non-thuggish” way to deal with it because it is a thug of the first order. Shoot to kill. Send our SEAL teams. No mercy.~

Isn’t a “thuggish way” all about that? What not to like regarding our topic?

~Protect minorities: it isn’t our business. Really it isn’t. Those countries have their own governments and it is VERY, VERY presumptuous and arrogant of us to think that we have the right to superimpose our values on foreign governments.~

True, that is why Christians won’t survive without Assad and Putin.
You may question their motives but they are the forces of good, not evil there. It is that simple.


19 posted on 04/21/2014 8:39:36 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: cloudmountain
you and I have very different thought processes.

and that is why individual thought processes make each of us unique and there is nothing wrong with individual thought and independent thinking unless independent thought portrays itself, in a manner, which violates my independent thought or my independent thought violates your independent thought. There sometimes is something called a meeting of the minds, where the parties agree and come to terms of an agreement with each party or individual signing off to enact terms of a contract ... and in other situations there maybe is such a thing as the Vulcan mind melt. Scary, but my thoughts to your thoughts and your thoughts to mine which might also be termed a meeting of the minds. Other times there is full disagreement or dissent causing other issues where the meeting of the minds is full blown conflict. Individuals attempt to avoid conflict and rightly so but collective thought normally precedes individual thought whereby the collective in most all cases supersedes the individual thereby leaving the individual little to no voice. The systems (plural) of thought processes amongst individuals is the most complex and complicated known to humans. Both individuals and collectives attain great and destructive goals. The past always finds its way into the present. The devil I know is better than the devil I do not know but in either instance I may be dealing with the devil for most humans are something less than human. My humble opinion cloud.

20 posted on 04/22/2014 1:33:08 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: marshmallow

Assad is criticized for running a repressive regime. But look at the despicable people he was repressing.


21 posted on 04/22/2014 1:49:33 AM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: cloudmountain
I empathize with your frustration for I too have similar frustrations. I too understand it is a no win situation. Our thought processes maybe are quite similar if not nearly full aligned. I do not have the solutions but if did have the solutions I would share. I believe you to be the same. I am mocked sometimes but I do continue to pray to a God that I believe is greater than all of us and just maybe holds some of the solutions so much needed by mankind or men and women that attempt to be human instead of demons.
22 posted on 04/22/2014 1:52:50 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: cloudmountain

It shows that our country can withstand the incompetence you describe for 8 years.

What is ironic is if he truly believed in what he was doing he would totally try to change things. Bring all US troops home, terminate our meddling over seas, cut taxes, concentrate on our country and its people.

BUt no. He didn’t even ring true to his own conviction. Cause he has none.

We open the paper on Good Friday, and hear that he’s delaying a decision on the Keystone Pipeline.

I mean, the man is a coward in every inch of his body.

In short, I would respect the man, maybe, if he was consistent and forthright. Instead he’s sneaky and dishonest.

Make know mistake. THe IRS stole the election for this guy.


23 posted on 04/22/2014 6:55:49 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: wetphoenix
Christians are a minority by absolutely HUGE numbers. That is why so many are leaving their homeland. It’s no place for Christians. I don’t think it ever was.~
Why and where should they go? For your information, Middle East is a place where Christianity came from. Our European ancestors were still eating each other for dinner, worshipped fire and water at the time the Christians were already in place in Syria. Why should they leave and where?? To Britain or France there they doesn’t consider Christians an eligible for asylump rotected minority, but no-go sharia zones in inner cities are immediate reality?
There MUST be someone on the planet who DOESN'T know that Christianity started in the middle east. LOL. Try NOT to to assume that everyone is like you. Being an OLD civilization isn't a prediction of a better society. Not at all. But you wouldn't have written such foolishness to be if you knew that.

We visited Syria when when we were there. I still use the damask tablecloths that I bought in the world's largest indoor market in Damascus. So I know all about the Syrians too. Have you been there? :o) I doubt it or you wouldn't have written such foolishness.

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As for the U.K., we've been there many, many times and we saw the Saudis (by their long white thobes) and therefore I know all about Arabs in London.
MAYBE you'll cease preaching about things you don't really know. I hope so.

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~Al-Qaeda: there is no “non-thuggish” way to deal with it because it is a thug of the first order. Shoot to kill. Send our SEAL teams. No mercy.~
Isn’t a “thuggish way” all about that? What not to like regarding our topic?
This makes no sense as I have been writing continuously on this thread...or didn't you notice?

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~Protect minorities: it isn’t our business. Really it isn’t. Those countries have their own governments and it is VERY, VERY presumptuous and arrogant of us to think that we have the right to superimpose our values on foreign governments.~
True, that is why Christians won’t survive without Assad and Putin. You may question their motives but they are the forces of good, not evil there. It is that simple.

If you had the ability to COMPREHEND what I have written you wouldn't have blustered on and on and on about the OBVIOUS. I never said that any of those governments were bad. But, trying to get through the wool in your brain is a Herculian task.

I was in Syria when HAFIZ Assad was president. Were YOU ever there? NO, of course not.
I lived in Saudi Arabia and traveled to all the middle east countries except Israel. We didn't want to risk an Israeli stamp on our passports NOT knowing what the Saudis would do.
Did YOU ever live in the middle east?
NO, of course not.
You bluster and blow about it as if YOU lived there. My husband and I lived in Ras Tanura for five years. We traveled THROUGHOUT Saudi Arabia and we visited the countries around there. We visited Egypt TWICE because it was so very wonderful

Christians left the middle east for a reason. I can't read their minds...though YOU may think you can. My guesses were based on my LIVING IN SAUDI ARABIA five years, not the guesses YOU have from NOT living beyond the boundaries of your own closed mind.

As for being under Putin, the folks in the middle east are NOT under Putin. The Saudis and middle easterners HATE communism and all it stood for, so even now, with the vestiges of communism still around Putin has NO say in what happens in the middle east.

By the way, my husband and I visited RUSSIA as well. Have you? I doubt it or you wouldn't be spouting off about Putin either.

I didn't condemn Putin or Russia either, but then, YOU just don't "get" it so it's kind of useless to try and talk to you about this.

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Fi iman illah OR Maa salaama.
That is Arabic. But you wouldn't know that either, let alone know what it means.
GOOGLE it. It will do you good to work that brain of yours beyond the blather-mode.

24 posted on 04/22/2014 9:59:37 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: no-to-illegals
And that is why individual thought processes make each of us unique and there is nothing wrong with individual thought and independent thinking unless independent thought portrays itself, in a manner, which violates my independent thought or my independent thought violates your independent thought. There sometimes is something called a meeting of the minds, where the parties agree and come to terms of an agreement with each party or individual signing off to enact terms of a contract ... and in other situations there maybe is such a thing as the Vulcan mind melt. Scary, but my thoughts to your thoughts and your thoughts to mine which might also be termed a meeting of the minds. Other times there is full disagreement or dissent causing other issues where the meeting of the minds is full blown conflict. Individuals attempt to avoid conflict and rightly so but collective thought normally precedes individual thought whereby the collective in most all cases supersedes the individual thereby leaving the individual little to no voice. The systems (plural) of thought processes amongst individuals is the most complex and complicated known to humans. Both individuals and collectives attain great and destructive goals. The past always finds its way into the present. The devil I know is better than the devil I do not know but in either instance I may be dealing with the devil for most humans are something less than human. My humble opinion cloud.

Interesting opinion, n-t-i.

25 posted on 04/22/2014 6:38:48 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: nikos1121
It shows that our country can withstand the incompetence you describe for 8 years.
What is ironic is if he truly believed in what he was doing he would totally try to change things. Bring all US troops home, terminate our meddling over seas, cut taxes, concentrate on our country and its people.
BUt no. He didn’t even ring true to his own conviction. Cause he has none.
We open the paper on Good Friday, and hear that he’s delaying a decision on the Keystone Pipeline.
I mean, the man is a coward in every inch of his body.
In short, I would respect the man, maybe, if he was consistent and forthright. Instead he’s sneaky and dishonest.
Make know mistake. THe IRS stole the election for this guy.

True enough!

26 posted on 04/22/2014 6:42:03 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Please, don’t jump on me. I don’t even think we disagree too much.
BTW, I’ve been to Egypt, UAE, Turkey and Israel. My good freind’s wife is Syrian so I have some first hand idea on what is going on there.


27 posted on 04/22/2014 6:44:23 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: no-to-illegals
I empathize with your frustration for I too have similar frustrations. I too understand it is a no win situation. Our thought processes maybe are quite similar if not nearly full aligned. I do not have the solutions but if did have the solutions I would share. I believe you to be the same. I am mocked sometimes but I do continue to pray to a God that I believe is greater than all of us and just maybe holds some of the solutions so much needed by mankind or men and women that attempt to be human instead of demons.

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It's so nice to be able to sound off!

I count my blessings from our good Lord, EVERY single day of my life.

Human nature won't change. Abraham Lincoln said something to the effect of "We can modify human action to some extent but we can't change human nature."

Original sin + free will = Mostly good but sinful too much!

28 posted on 04/22/2014 6:48:07 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: wetphoenix
Please, don’t jump on me. I don’t even think we disagree too much. BTW, I’ve been to Egypt, UAE, Turkey and Israel. My good freind’s wife is Syrian so I have some first hand idea on what is going on there.

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I definitely won't jump because I didn't think jumping was allowed on FR!
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I've been to those places too.
NOW I'm going to travel to the places I haven't been to: my own country. I am SURE looking forward to it.

29 posted on 04/22/2014 6:51:24 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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