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To: SeekAndFind
And you can’t blame Luther for sinful people

I'm not ascribing Vines' personal sins to Luther. Vines did those things himself.

I am ascribing Vines' argument in justification of his sins to Luther.

Luther argued for using Scripture as the sole grounds for theological argument, denouncing both Tradition and Reason as extraneous and dangerous.

Luther also argued that one's own personal interpretation of Scripture was the ultimate rule of faith, not any external guide.

Vines is proceeding on precisely these principles.

42 posted on 04/23/2014 10:19:17 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

RE: I am ascribing Vines’ argument in justification of his sins to Luther.

And my point is YOU CANNOT DO IT.

Scripture ALREADY condemns homosexuality. Any sinful person can RATIONALIZE what scripture clearly teaches and ignore it.

Just as anyone can interpret scripture by rationalization, anyone can IGNORE Catholic doctrine by rationalizing it away.

There is NO GUARANTEE that because you are Catholic, you will obey Catholic doctrine ( which I am sure you will agree, is IN HARMONY with scripture ).

Therefore, mentioning Luther is a red herring. He has NOTHING TO DO with Matthew Vines, just as Pelosi, Cuomo or these priests and nuns have NOTHING TO DO with Catholic doctrine.


44 posted on 04/23/2014 10:23:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: wideawake

RE: Luther argued for using Scripture as the sole grounds for theological argument, denouncing both Tradition and Reason as extraneous and dangerous.

Let’s be clear, Luther was not against tradition or reason.

Luther was always for JUDGING tradition and reason in the light of what is written in scripture.


45 posted on 04/23/2014 10:25:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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