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Heaven is for Real. But what if the the popular movie by this title seems little-related...
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 4/27/2014 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/28/2014 1:53:01 AM PDT by markomalley

A recent popular movie entitled Heaven is for Real is probably well-intentioned, but it taps into almost every modern error related to death, judgment, Heaven, and Hell. We have discussed in the past on this blog some of the many modern errors related to these issues.

Chief among these modern errors is the notion of “universalism,” which accords the vast majority, if not practically everyone, the reward of Heaven. But of course this notion runs directly contrary to Scripture, which says that many will be lost. And while we cannot assign percentages or make judgments in individual cases, nevertheless we ought not entertain the fanciful notion that “many” being lost actually means “just a few,” let alone “hardly anyone at all.”

To its credit, the Washington Post recently published an article allowing critics of the movie to speak of their concerns. Though no Catholic theologians were interviewed, the concerns and critiques voiced by the Evangelical pastors consulted for the article articulate fairly well that the movie Heaven is for Real, while often referring to Scripture, is a movie essentially rooted in popular culture, which has become unmoored from 2000 years of biblical tradition.

Let’s look at some of the critiques in the article. As usual, the text of the article is denoted by bold italics, while my remarks are in red text. The full article is available here: Movie on Heaven has its Critics.  I want to emphasize that my comments here are on the critique; I have not seen the movie. My remarks here are to affirm what the critique says, not of the movie, but of our modern culture.

Heaven is not only “for real,” it’s pretty much for everyone in the new movie based on the near-death experience visions of a precocious preschooler.

We know we’re already in trouble when a movie involving any theological speculation at all relies on the visions of a preschool student, even if a precocious one. The book was published over two years ago, and frankly, when I noted that it was based on the visions of a preschooler, it never occurred to me to buy the book, let alone read it or take it seriously. While it is true that children can have beautiful spiritual visions, the accuracy of those visions cannot be guaranteed, and surely they are in very childlike categories, which often lack important distinctions, etc.

In this opening critique we are told that the film says that Heaven is ”for everyone.” So it seems very clear that the film is rooted in the modern heresy of universalism described above. The article continues with,

…the film jettisons doctrine. Instead, it celebrates an unabashed “God is love” view that goodness in this life gets you, your friends, and your family a crown and wings in the next.

The essence of heresy is not the outright denial of all Christian truth. Rather, it is the taking of one or several teachings and emphasizing them to the exclusion of other teachings meant to balance and frame them. It is true that God is love. But we ought not set up a false dichotomy between love and God’s judgment of our final disposition in terms of His offer of love. Love does not mean that there is no accountability, no consequence, no judgment, no day when God will determine our final disposition based on our for regard for Him and the values of His Kingdom.

Yes, God is love, and no one loves you more than Jesus Christ does. Yet no one warned you more than Jesus did about judgment and the possibility of Hell. Jesus did so in parable after parable, warning after warning. There are sheep and goats (Matt 25), some who are taken and some who are left (Matt 24:40), some who are at the right and called to the Kingdom prepared for them and others to the left who are told to depart into the flames prepared for them and the devil (Mat 7). There are wise virgins and foolish virgins (Matt 25), there are the merciful who obtain mercy (Matt 5) and those who are not and are judged without mercy. There are those who have forgiven and are thus forgiven by God (Matt 6), and those who did not forgive and are therefore not forgiven by God. There are those courageous souls who announced and lived God’s Word in chaste purity and fidelity, but there are also those who are on the outside, whom the Lord calls dogs, cowards, fornicators, liars, and so forth (Rev 21). The list could go on.

And while there is something of a tension between judgment and love, to say that love cannot be squared with judgment is to set up a false dichotomy and to offend the testimony of Scripture. The same Jesus who loves us and died for us is also the Jesus who will judge us. And He says to us that the judgment is essentially in our hands; either we will love the light and will choose Him and His Father’s Kingdom, or we will prefer the darkness and will not choose the Kingdom.

The modern heresy of universalism seeks to resolve the tension between God’s love and justice by choosing love and discarding justice. And yet part of His justice is to respect the freedom of our choice for or against Him and what He values! The heresy of detaching God’s love from His respectful justice turns His love into a doting, fawning,  inconsequential love. It is a one-sided love in which God calls the shots and our own stance really doesn’t matter. But of course this is not really true love; it is a kind of paternalism wherein we never really attain the glorious freedom of Children of God because our choices never really mattered anyway.

Pay attention, fellow Christians! Modern, “cheesy,” sentimental notions of God’s love are unbiblical, beneath the dignity of God, and also beneath the dignity of the human person. At the heart of our dignity is the fact that we have real decisions to make, decisions with consequences, decisions that actually matter.

Yes, God is love, but that love requests, respectfully, to be loved in return. It is a love that respects our freedom, and while seeking our “yes,” is willing to accept our “no.” Only then does our “yes” have true meaning.

Heaven is a real place, not just a concept…We just wish many people would go to the Bible, rather than the cinema, to find out what heaven is. 

This is well said; Heaven is a real place. Heaven is not just some “designer” place; Heaven is the Kingdom of God in all of its fullness and with all of its values lived perfectly. And frankly, many of the values of the Kingdom of Heaven are not popular today – values such as chastity, love of enemies, forgiveness, generosity as opposed to greed, etc. Heaven is not just some egocentric place of our own design. It is the place where we will see God, as He really is, in all of His justice and mercy.

Reducing Heaven to merely sentimental notions such as mansions and streets lined with gold, nice though these things seem, is to ignore the most essential aspect of Heaven. The heart of Heaven is the encounter with God, in all of His glory and in all of His truth. Heaven is also very liturgical, resembling to a great degree the Catholic Mass. There are priests in long white robes, candles, incense, a book, the lamb on the altar, hymns, praise of God, and so forth. Given the empty churches of today, many apparently find this vision less than appealing.

Heaven isn’t just “for real,” it is what it really is, not what we want it to be. Some find it attractive and glorious. But as Scripture says, many will find the “real” Heaven intolerable. Why? Because as Jesus says, This is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, but many prefer the darkness because their deeds are sinful. (Jn 3:19)

But who wants to tell…[a parishioner] that her soldier-son may not be in heaven after all?…[Pastor] Challies knows he’s up against a cultural tide that celebrates “the heaven we want, the Jesus we want, not the Jesus we’ve really got who is worthy of worship and won’t allow unholiness in heaven.

Yes, the cultural challenges are enormous; the uphill climb really does seem rather steep. Scripture is clear regarding Heaven:  nothing impure shall enter there (Rev 21:27). We need to be serious about our preparation. I DO think it is possible to speak boldly of this at funerals without getting too personal about the deceased. We cannot be their judge one way or the other. But we can still ask prayers for the deceased and can warn the living. I have published a funeral sermon here: Funeral Sermon

While heaven books delight publishers with divine sales numbers, the afterlife actually isn’t a top-of-mind issue for many people: 46 percent told a 2011 LifeWay Research survey they never wonder whether they will go to heaven. But it’s unknown whether they are unconcerned because they already feel sure of their ultimate fate one way or another.

And here’s the ultimate harm of heresy: it has God’s people locked in the clutches of evil one. They have bought into his lies that Heaven is a done deal, in direct contradiction of Jesus’ words that we must endure to the end in order to be saved (Mat 24:13). We must grow in virtue and struggle to be free of sin. 

The sin described here is one of presumption. It is sin against hope; for who hopes for what he already has? Hope is confident expectation of God help. It is a good thing to be confident, but it is the kind of confidence that summons us to battle, not to the sofa or to the victor’s box before the race is even run!

The indulgence of the heresy of universalism means that many do not take their own battle seriously, nor do they battle seriously for the souls of others. The result is that many souls are likely lost.

Hence according to the critique, the movie seems at best flawed, at worst harmful. For though it draws from Scripture, it does so selectively, and uses as its main source a preschool child and the popular imagination of heaven, which has been unmoored from 2,000 years of Christian teachings.


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Full title: Heaven is for Real. But what if the the popular movie by this title seems little-related to the real Heaven, the real Jesus, or the real Scriptures?
1 posted on 04/28/2014 1:53:01 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: Biggirl; ConorMacNessa; Faith65; GreyFriar; Heart-Rest; JPX2011; Mercat; Mrs. Don-o; ...

Msgr Pope ping


2 posted on 04/28/2014 1:56:12 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

I saw the movie last week and I liked it. It is simply a dramatized report of a little boy’s near death experience and that is all that it is. People need to keep in mind that the NDE of a child who has not, in theory anyway, sinned because he has not yet reached the age of reason, is going to be different than those of an adult. Howard Storm’s NDE was horrifying.

I didn’t see the universalism angle likely because in my mind when someone says Heaven is for real, it implies that Hell is too. Who goes where and how many nobody knows. As Bishop Fulton Sheen says: “There will be three surprises when you get to heaven. You will be surprised who is there, you will be surprised who is not there, and you will be surprised that you are there.”

The part of the movie I liked the most was when the kid told his mom that he had met his “other sister” in heaven. This sister was a miscarriage that the kid had never been told about by his parents. His mother had been skeptical of the her son’s nde until that moment. That must have been quite shocking for her. I thought it was a prime moment for the movie to make a pro life statement but it left that one hanging. Too bad.


3 posted on 04/28/2014 2:26:01 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: markomalley

This is a rather weak article, imo. Both Msgr. Pope’s comments and those in the article he discussed would have more weight if any of those commenting had read the book or seen the movie they’re analyzing. (I haven’t.)

This is not to say that Msgr. Pope’s theology or cultural observations are incorrect, just that tying his comments to “Heaven Is For Real” is a stretch.


4 posted on 04/28/2014 2:52:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'd forgotten how much fun it is having a dog.)
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To: HerrBlucher

You got it.

What we are dealing here is a little kid and his NDE experience.


5 posted on 04/28/2014 3:55:07 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: markomalley

is Msgr Pope expecting to win hearts and minds with this? I understand his points but he doesn’t know his audience. I, as a practicing Catholic, read the book, watched the movie, and enjoyed it. The point that Msgr seemingly misses is those of us who believe in God and Heaven can have doubts and a small child helps erase some of those doubts.


6 posted on 04/28/2014 4:07:39 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: markomalley

Good Lord. Three people were in Heaven that was mentioned in the movie. The father of the pastor, the baby that the couple lost and the military person who was killed in action. How on Earth does that explain EVERYONE goes to Heaven. I hate people who bash these movies. Just watch the dang thing. I saw it yesterday. Was it an Oscar winner? No way. Was it a nice little movie? Yes. I actually like God’s not Dead better but big deal.


7 posted on 04/28/2014 4:33:24 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: markomalley
What bothers me most is Msg. Pope's dismissal of the child's NDE for this reason:

"While it is true that children can have beautiful spiritual visions, the accuracy of those visions cannot be guaranteed, and surely they are in very childlike categories, which often lack important distinctions, etc.

However, I'm sure that he believes in and teaches as fact, the visions seen by the 3 children at Fatima.

8 posted on 04/28/2014 4:44:26 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

But remember Jesus’s position on little children.


9 posted on 04/28/2014 4:46:01 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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Ping!


10 posted on 04/28/2014 5:07:05 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: napscoordinator

I unpinged him awhile ago on Facebook.Kinda like going to a Confirmation and having Archbishop Chaput tell everyone at the Confirmation in a round about way they really needed to relearn all that they were taught in Catholic Schools.Not the time nor the place.I think I might order the book.He also saw the Blessed Mother but I heard it was cut out of the movie and book.


11 posted on 04/28/2014 5:42:59 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: markomalley

If you read the book, it talks about hell. The boy said that afterwards he saw people “Who were not God’s”, and that they are not going to heaven unless they repent.

The book was not all lovey dovey (though that is what most remember).


12 posted on 04/28/2014 6:00:48 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

“It is appointed unto man once to die, and then the judgement”

Those people CAN’T repent. It’s too late.


13 posted on 04/28/2014 6:02:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

They were not dead. In the book he saw them after he was released from the hospital. Specifically in his Dad’s church.


14 posted on 04/28/2014 6:06:37 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

The Fatima children were a little older. The priests in their village did not believe them at all and scolded them for their story.


15 posted on 04/28/2014 6:22:33 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: markomalley

Christ said “many” will go to hell, and “few” will go to heaven:

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


16 posted on 04/28/2014 6:23:29 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: markomalley
"In this opening critique we are told that the film says that Heaven is ”for everyone.” So it seems very clear that the film is rooted in the modern heresy of universalism described above."

Is that really the case, though? I wonder if "heaven is for everyone" could mean that, while some won't make it, it's God's will that everyone would.

17 posted on 04/28/2014 8:48:43 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: redgolum
"If you read the book, it talks about hell. The boy said that afterwards he saw people “Who were not God’s”, and that they are not going to heaven unless they repent."

My MIL gave me a copy of the book not long after it came out, and I read it then, so I don't remember the details. But isn't there something about the boy being asked if he saw the devil, and he became so terrified that he sat stock-still for a while, unable to speak? Or something along those lines.

18 posted on 04/28/2014 8:50:55 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: CatherineofAragon

You are correct.


19 posted on 04/28/2014 12:47:57 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: markomalley

what always gets me when people have out-of-body experiences in the hospitals, they come back and said they saw their relatives in heaven, my question always is that how can they see their relatives when it’s their souls that are in heaven and not their bodies?


20 posted on 04/28/2014 4:06:09 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

What are we to “see” if not the bodies, or at least the images of them as they were “in life,”?


21 posted on 04/28/2014 11:40:05 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Coleus

We will have resurrected bodies - just like Jesus had. Jesus ate, passed fish to his friends, etc. He even said something like “I am not a ghost - do ghost’s eat!?”

(Which I think is interesting in the aspect of are ghosts real or not - would imply that they are!?)


22 posted on 04/28/2014 11:59:12 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Coleus

Oh - unless your question relates to the timing of the bodily resurrection. I guess some believe that won’t happen until Jesus returns. I don’t know enough about all of that. And it doesn’t matter too much to me now what all of the details are. I know God and Jesus - and they have a great plan for me! I guess I would like to think that my mom and dad and sister, all who loved Christ, are up in Heaven already. And perhaps they are - but just in spirit. Or perhaps with perfect bodies, or perhaps they are just “asleep” until the final judgement. (I guess I should read my Bible more to learn up on those things.)


23 posted on 04/29/2014 12:06:28 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve

I guess some believe that won’t happen until Jesus returns. >>

yes, our bodies will join our souls in heaven at the end of time..


24 posted on 04/29/2014 7:17:34 PM PDT by Coleus
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